2021 Japanese Racing
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''Gran Alegria Seeks Repeat Mile Championship Win''
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... onship-win
HANSHIN 11R
THE MILE CHAMPIONSHIP(G1)
November 21, 2021, 1600m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 252,920,000 Yen
''Gran Alegria Seeks Repeat Mile Championship Win''
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... onship-win
HANSHIN 11R
THE MILE CHAMPIONSHIP(G1)
November 21, 2021, 1600m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 252,920,000 Yen
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Gran Alegria won her last race like the champion she is Sugoi!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
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What a way to go out!!
I’m out of town now.
Let me just post a replay link.
https://youtu.be/DTKEmPXQ9c8
1st 12 Gran Alegria(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Tapitsfly(USA) by Tapit(USA)] M5 55 01:32.6
2nd 3 Schnell Meister(GER) [Kingman(GB) x Serienholde(GER) by Soldier Hollow(GB)] C3 56 01:32.7 3/4
3rd 13 Danon the Kid(JPN) [Just a Way(JPN) x Epic Love(IRE) by Dansili(GB)] C3 56 01:32.8 1/2
4th 7 Indy Champ(JPN) H6 57 01:32.8 NS
5th 1 Ho O Amazon(JPN) C3 56 01:33.0 1 1/4
6th 4 Salios(JPN) C4 57 01:33.1 NK
7th 8 Darlington Hall(GB) C4 57 01:33.2 1/2
8th 5 Sound Chiara(JPN) M6 55 01:33.2 NK
9th 11 Catedral(JPN) H5 57 01:33.2 NK
10th 6 Cadence Call(JPN) H5 57 01:33.3 NK
11th 16 Rainbow Flag(JPN) H8 57 01:33.4 1/2
12th 10 Lotus Land(USA) F4 55 01:33.5 3/4
13th 9 Grenadier Guards(JPN) C3 56 01:33.8 1 3/4
14th 2 Kurino Gaudi(JPN) H5 57 01:33.9 NK
15th 14 Ripresa(JPN) C3 56 01:34.7 5
16th 15 Sound Kanaloa(JPN) H5 57 01:35.2 3
I’m out of town now.
Let me just post a replay link.
https://youtu.be/DTKEmPXQ9c8
1st 12 Gran Alegria(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Tapitsfly(USA) by Tapit(USA)] M5 55 01:32.6
2nd 3 Schnell Meister(GER) [Kingman(GB) x Serienholde(GER) by Soldier Hollow(GB)] C3 56 01:32.7 3/4
3rd 13 Danon the Kid(JPN) [Just a Way(JPN) x Epic Love(IRE) by Dansili(GB)] C3 56 01:32.8 1/2
4th 7 Indy Champ(JPN) H6 57 01:32.8 NS
5th 1 Ho O Amazon(JPN) C3 56 01:33.0 1 1/4
6th 4 Salios(JPN) C4 57 01:33.1 NK
7th 8 Darlington Hall(GB) C4 57 01:33.2 1/2
8th 5 Sound Chiara(JPN) M6 55 01:33.2 NK
9th 11 Catedral(JPN) H5 57 01:33.2 NK
10th 6 Cadence Call(JPN) H5 57 01:33.3 NK
11th 16 Rainbow Flag(JPN) H8 57 01:33.4 1/2
12th 10 Lotus Land(USA) F4 55 01:33.5 3/4
13th 9 Grenadier Guards(JPN) C3 56 01:33.8 1 3/4
14th 2 Kurino Gaudi(JPN) H5 57 01:33.9 NK
15th 14 Ripresa(JPN) C3 56 01:34.7 5
16th 15 Sound Kanaloa(JPN) H5 57 01:35.2 3
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Her mating plan has yet to be announced.Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 am Gran Alegria won her last race like the champion she is Sugoi!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
This is going to be wide-open.
If they want to have an inbreeding to Sunday Silence (3 x 4), Epiphaneia will be the top choice and Maurice might be the alternative.
If they want an outcross, Lord Kanaloa must be seen the most proven.
But my pick is Rey de Oro.
Rey de Oro's first crop sold very well at the JRHA Select Sale this summer and, like Gran Alegria, he was trained by Kazuo Fujisawa.
Rey de Oro x Gran Alegria
https://www.jbis.jp/topics/simulation/r ... ?x=53&y=14
(foal inbred to Wind in Her Hair!!)
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tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:25 amHer mating plan has yet to be announced.Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 am Gran Alegria won her last race like the champion she is Sugoi!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
This is going to be wide-open.
If they want to have an inbreeding to Sunday Silence (3 x 4), Epiphaneia will be the top choice and Maurice might be the alternative.
If they want an outcross, Lord Kanaloa must be seen the most proven.
But my pick is Rey de Oro.
Rey de Oro's first crop sold very well at the JRHA Select Sale this summer and, like Gran Alegria, he was trained by Kazuo Fujisawa.
Rey de Oro x Gran Alegria
https://www.jbis.jp/topics/simulation/r ... ?x=53&y=14
(foal inbred to Wind in Her Hair!!)
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Would either California Chrome or Bago be out of the question?tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:25 amHer mating plan has yet to be announced.Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 am Gran Alegria won her last race like the champion she is Sugoi!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
This is going to be wide-open.
If they want to have an inbreeding to Sunday Silence (3 x 4), Epiphaneia will be the top choice and Maurice might be the alternative.
If they want an outcross, Lord Kanaloa must be seen the most proven.
But my pick is Rey de Oro.
Rey de Oro's first crop sold very well at the JRHA Select Sale this summer and, like Gran Alegria, he was trained by Kazuo Fujisawa.
Rey de Oro x Gran Alegria
https://www.jbis.jp/topics/simulation/r ... ?x=53&y=14
(foal inbred to Wind in Her Hair!!)
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Bred by Katsumi Yoshida's Northern Farm and owned by Sunday Racing (that is strongly connected to Shadai Group, especially Northern Farm), Gran Alegria is purely a Shadai Group horse.Gemini wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:53 amWould either California Chrome or Bago be out of the question?tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:25 amHer mating plan has yet to be announced.Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 am Gran Alegria won her last race like the champion she is Sugoi!
Have they picked a stud for her yet?
I vote for either Lord Kanaloa or Maurice.... Or even Frankel if they don't mind shipping her to Europe!
This is going to be wide-open.
If they want to have an inbreeding to Sunday Silence (3 x 4), Epiphaneia will be the top choice and Maurice might be the alternative.
If they want an outcross, Lord Kanaloa must be seen the most proven.
But my pick is Rey de Oro.
Rey de Oro's first crop sold very well at the JRHA Select Sale this summer and, like Gran Alegria, he was trained by Kazuo Fujisawa.
Rey de Oro x Gran Alegria
https://www.jbis.jp/topics/simulation/r ... ?x=53&y=14
(foal inbred to Wind in Her Hair!!)
So it is highly unlikely that Katsumi Yoshida sends her to a stallion who is NOT standing at Shadai Stallion Station from her fist mating.
They have got to support their stallions first.
Sending her to overseas to make her visit such big names as Frankel, Into Mischief etc. remains a possibility, but the chance must be very slim.
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japanracing.jp (JRA) set up a new website for the Japan Cup 2021!!!!
I think it's beautiful. I love it!!
''Racing in Beauty''
https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/ (Wow!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgbjA8cM9g
Sometimes subtle,
Occasionally bold....
Contents:
-- Japan Cup 2021: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/jc/2021.html
-- News & Results: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news_results/
-- Horsemen's Information: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/horsemen/
-- Videos & Gallery: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/videos_gallery/ (<--- very informative! highly recommended!!!)
-- Contacts: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/contacts/
I think it's beautiful. I love it!!
''Racing in Beauty''
https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/ (Wow!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgbjA8cM9g
Sometimes subtle,
Occasionally bold....
Contents:
-- Japan Cup 2021: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/jc/2021.html
-- News & Results: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news_results/
-- Horsemen's Information: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/horsemen/
-- Videos & Gallery: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/videos_gallery/ (<--- very informative! highly recommended!!!)
-- Contacts: https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/contacts/
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TOKYO 12R
THE JAPAN CUP(G1)
November 28, 2021, 2400m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 575,460,000 Yen
--from japanracing.jp
#JRA Japan Cup (G1, 15:40, Nov. 28)
https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/jc/2021.html
Barrier Draw https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 11126.html https://jra.jp/JRAEN/AP/common/main
Profile https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 125-03.pdf
Preview https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 23-02.html
Comments https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 26-02.html
Data Analysis https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 11122.html
THE JAPAN CUP(G1)
November 28, 2021, 2400m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 575,460,000 Yen
--from japanracing.jp
#JRA Japan Cup (G1, 15:40, Nov. 28)
https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/jc/2021.html
Barrier Draw https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 11126.html https://jra.jp/JRAEN/AP/common/main
Profile https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 125-03.pdf
Preview https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 23-02.html
Comments https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 26-02.html
Data Analysis https://japanracing.jp/en/japancup/news ... 11122.html
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It's a disadvantage.
No horse ever won the Japan Cup from the post #18.
Three horses won the Japan Cup from the widest draw in the past.
But those are the good old days.
Symboli Rudolf(JPN) in 1985 from the post #15
Pay the Butler(USA) in 1988 from the post #16
Tokai Teio(JPN) in 1992 from the post #14
Horses drawn inside seem to be favorable these days.
[Table 2] Performance by bracket number (last 10 years)
Bracket number Performance Win ratio Top 2 ratio Top 3 ratio
[1st-2nd-3rd-4th or lower]
1. 4-3-2-8 23.50% 41.20% 52.90%
2. 2-0-2-15 10.50% 10.50% 21.10%
3. 1-1-2-16 5.00% 10.00% 20.00%
4. 1-1-0-18 5.00% 10.00% 10.00%
5. 0-2-0-18 0% 10.00% 10.00%
6. 0-1-0-19 0% 5.00% 5.00%
7. 1-0-3-18 4.50% 4.50% 18.20%
8. 1-2-1-22 3.80% 11.50% 15.40%
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Contrail does it!!
Authority 2nd
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-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqgfyTdqGk
1st 2 Contrail(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Rhodochrosite(USA) by Unbridled's Song(USA)] C4 57 02:24.7
2nd 7 Authority(JPN) [Orfevre(JPN) x Rosalind(JPN) by Symboli Kris S(USA)] C4 57 02:25.0 2
3rd 4 Shahryar(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Dubai Majesty(USA) by Essence of Dubai(USA)] C3 55 02:25.2 1 1/2
4th 12 Sanrei Pocket(JPN) H6 57 02:25.4 3/4
5th 6 Grand Glory(GB) M5 55 02:25.5 3/4
6th 14 Uberleben(JPN) F3 53 02:25.5 NK
7th 11 Shadow Diva(JPN) M5 55 02:25.6 1/2
8th 18 Japan(GB) H5 57 02:25.7 NK
9th 9 Aristoteles(JPN) C4 57 02:25.8 1
10th 5 Kiseki(JPN) H7 57 02:26.0 1
11th 3 Broome(IRE) H5 57 02:26.1 1/2
12th 16 You Can Smile(JPN) H6 57 02:26.2 1
13th 13 Mozu Bello(JPN) H5 57 02:26.5 1 1/2
14th 15 Makahiki(JPN) H8 57 02:26.5 NK
15th 10 Lord My Way(JPN) H5 57 02:27.0 3
16th 1 Muito Obrigado(JPN) H7 57 02:27.0 NK
17th 8 Windjammer(JPN) G4 57 02:27.0 HD
18th 17 Wagnerian(JPN) H6 57 02:27.1 NK
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Contrail - Authority for me
Good call, Palace Malice.
Good call, Palace Malice.