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Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:28 pm

Holy...what a shame.

We sure went from "he might not breed next year" to "English Channel has died" real quick.
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Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:48 pm

I am so sad to hear about English Channel :( He is definitely one of my all time favorite turf horses. Rest in Peace :(
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Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:09 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:28 pm Holy...what a shame.

We sure went from "he might not breed next year" to "English Channel has died" real quick.
Seriously. So sorry to hear this. He was such a gutsy runner and a good sire.
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Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:16 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:22 pm English Channel has died.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... sh-channel
Oh no...he wasn’t even that old, 19 - like Bernardini. Poor baby.....💔💔
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Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:34 pm

A very sad turn for English Channel. I just adored him when he ran, he was such a consistent and under-rated horse on and off the track.
May he RIP
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Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:27 pm

Put It Back, the sire of Brazilian Triple Crown winner Bal a Bali and G1W In Summation, has died at 23. Article does not disclose COD. He is the damsire of Brazilian G1W In Essence and the grandsire of "our" Calculator through In Summation.
https://www.turfdiario.com/a-los-23-ano ... t-it-back/

He also had a clever name - Honour and Glory + Miss Shoplifter = Put It Back.
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Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:43 pm

Valor Farm's Early Flyer (Gilded Time) has been pensioned and will remain at Valor Farm.

Early Flyer was a MGSW, a leading Texas sire, and a sire of several champions in Texas. He is the sire of G3 Bashford Manor winner He's Comin in Hot.
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Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Mylute wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:43 pm Valor Farm's Early Flyer (Gilded Time) has been pensioned and will remain at Valor Farm.

Early Flyer was a MGSW, a leading Texas sire, and a sire of several champions in Texas. He is the sire of G3 Bashford Manor winner He's Comin in Hot.
I remember him! He was a pretty fast little horse. He beat Squirtle Squirt in the GII Laz Barrera (setting a new stakes record), and finished 2nd in the GI DeFrancis Memorial Dash, beating Xtra Heat in the process. (I did look it up. My memory isn't THAT good!)😇
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Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:36 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:27 pm Put It Back, the sire of Brazilian Triple Crown winner Bal a Bali and G1W In Summation, has died at 23. Article does not disclose COD. He is the damsire of Brazilian G1W In Essence and the grandsire of "our" Calculator through In Summation.
https://www.turfdiario.com/a-los-23-ano ... t-it-back/

He also had a clever name - Honour and Glory + Miss Shoplifter = Put It Back.
Put it Back was truly a great stallion, three-time champion sire in Brazil.
I remember him racing in New York.
May he rest in peace.
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Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:55 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:21 pm
PersonalE wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:00 pm Silver Slate to stand for $20k.
Seems expensive for him
I also thought 75k for essential quality and 40k for Maxfield was expensive
I would have anticipated $50,000 for EQ and $15,000 For Maxfield. After looking at the Keenland sales results so far I can see why the farms feel empowered.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:03 am

Al Shaqab back on their usual BS… I mean… Armor has been retired to stud

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... ZgZ1cMGCZw

Third graded stakes winning juvenile that they’ve retired sound in the last couple years. It didnt work great with Gutaifan but it’s paid off in spades for Mehmas, so woohoo.

As a racing fan, it was just plain sad to hear Armor’s trainer Richard Hannon say in a post race interview this summer that the horse is strictly a two year old and while he thinks he could be a nice three year old, it probably wouldn’t happen.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:57 am

Northport wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:03 am Al Shaqab back on their usual BS… I mean… Armor has been retired to stud

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... ZgZ1cMGCZw

Third graded stakes winning juvenile that they’ve retired sound in the last couple years. It didnt work great with Gutaifan but it’s paid off in spades for Mehmas, so woohoo.

As a racing fan, it was just plain sad to hear Armor’s trainer Richard Hannon say in a post race interview this summer that the horse is strictly a two year old and while he thinks he could be a nice three year old, it probably wouldn’t happen.
Soon they will not race at all -just go right to breeding.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:59 am

MFW Armor isn't even a G1 winner
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:18 pm

Mylute wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:59 am MFW Armor isn't even a G1 winner
Why would anyone want to breed to these horses? There are so many other options.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:23 pm

Izvestia wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:18 pm
Mylute wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:59 am MFW Armor isn't even a G1 winner
Why would anyone want to breed to these horses? There are so many other options.
I imagine that they want to appeal to the breeders who can't afford No Nay Never.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:46 pm

Gemini wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:23 pm
Izvestia wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:18 pm
Mylute wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:59 am MFW Armor isn't even a G1 winner
Why would anyone want to breed to these horses? There are so many other options.
I imagine that they want to appeal to the breeders who can't afford No Nay Never.
Are they there? G2SW Arizona who has a similar record stood for 7k and only got 101 mares his first year, 2022 will be his 2nd year and they lowered his fee to 6k.
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Izvestia wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:18 pm
Mylute wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:59 am MFW Armor isn't even a G1 winner
Why would anyone want to breed to these horses? There are so many other options.
Mehmas has covered enormous books every year he's been at stud, it's mind boggling. Everyone wants cheap speed that can turn a profit in summer/autumn of it's two year old year. England, and to a lesser extent Ireland (and I guess everywhere except Japan) are in a crisis of no commercial breeders wanting to breed horses for distance anymore. Most seem to want early looking types that can be pinhooked as yearlings and sold at the breeze up sales.

Tbh I think this problem/trend started with Dark Angel, who has become a fantastic sire and was retired after his two year old season.
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:41 pm

Plot twist: Lexitonian to Lane’s End, for $10,000

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... GWWW_SjaQU
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:17 pm

Fragile juveniles retiring to stud at rapid pace is also a problem in Australia I've noticed.

Re: Lexitonian

what on earth?
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:37 pm

Northport wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:41 pm Plot twist: Lexitonian to Lane’s End, for $10,000

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... GWWW_SjaQU
I wonder if this is similar to English Channel in that they stand him at Lane's End so they can establish him and then move to Calumet later(I know he stood at Hurricane Hall his first year)? Or if Calumet is going to get out of the standing stallions at the farm business. They haven't had much success and their best stallion died.
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