Breeders Cup 2021 @ Del Mar

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Flanders
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm

Albahr and Master of the Seas are incredibly closely related. Pretty crazy that this happened again.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:25 pm

Again... in the gate 1 :shock:
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm I think Master of the Seas hit his head when he reared. You could hear a loud whack. Now being unsaddled...so not running, I guess.
Is it a coincidence that two Godolphin runners have acted badly in the gate?
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:26 pm

There is some sort of animal communicator in the UK who does work with horses who have gate issues... methinks he might be paying a visit to Moulton paddocks this winter.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:26 pm

Exogenous banged her head before the Distaff in 2001, she was scratched and died a week later from complications from wacking her head. That's all I'm thinking about right now.
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by very closely related I mean both are by Dubawi and Firth of Lorne (dam of Master of the Seas) is also the dam of Falls of Lora (dam of Albahr).
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:28 pm

Both were known as pretty flighty horses and Euros can tend to have issues with American gates, but the #1 stall might have been the more relevant commonality there. It's a long time for a horse to stand. Incredible that it happened again!

Oh boy Mo Forza got brutalized like ten steps out of the gate there.
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Ingrid wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:26 pm Exogenous banged her head before the Distaff in 2001, she was scratched and died a week later from complications from wacking her head. That's all I'm thinking about right now.
That was awful.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:29 pm

Okay so: Appleby has two horses in the Turf. Which one gets gate-scratched, and which one wins?
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:29 pm

Ingrid wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:26 pm Exogenous banged her head before the Distaff in 2001, she was scratched and died a week later from complications from wacking her head. That's all I'm thinking about right now.
She flipped in the paddock though, didn't she?

These talking heads kill me. If I hear one more "in these times".. ugh. Safety should be first in all times. Not just because the camera is on you.
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Modern Renaissance wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:29 pm
Ingrid wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:26 pm Exogenous banged her head before the Distaff in 2001, she was scratched and died a week later from complications from wacking her head. That's all I'm thinking about right now.
She flipped in the paddock though, didn't she?

These talking heads kill me. If I hear one more "in these times".. ugh. Safety should be first in all times. Not just because the camera is on you.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:31 pm

Exogenous flipped coming out onto the track and got her legs caught in a railing for an extended period of time. It was awful.

Hopefully Master of the Seas is okay- I suspect hooking his leg over the gate was considered an even greater concern than hitting his head, but he did look fine jogging off.
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Space Blues(IRE) won the Mile.
Ivar(BRZ) came in 3rd.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:41 pm

I can only imagine what Appleby was thinking when Master of the Seas did that. Talk about a bad deja vu.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:43 pm

Okay so: Appleby has two horses in the Turf. Which one gets gate-scratched, and which one wins?

He has Walton Street (gate 7) and Yibir (gate 10). I would lean toward Yibir being more likely to have issues, not just because he, too, is by Dubawi, but Walton Street has already raced on this continent. He will be more familiar with NA procedures like ponies and gate crew. And he's a gelding.
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:47 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:43 pm Okay so: Appleby has two horses in the Turf. Which one gets gate-scratched, and which one wins?

He has Walton Street (gate 7) and Yibir (gate 10). I would lean toward Yibir being more likely to have issues, not just because he, too, is by Dubawi, but Walton Street has already raced on this continent. He will be more familiar with NA procedures like ponies and gate crew. And he's a gelding.
Yibir won the Jockey Club Derby at Belmont in his last start.
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3/2 is such a bad price on Letruska but I SO want her to win. She's amazing.
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Yibir won the Jockey Club Derby at Belmont in his last start.

Oops. :oops:
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:03 pm

What the.... was that????
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Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:04 pm

Oh god I hope that was Dunbar Road, but I don't think it was. She might also come down if it's her, because she walloped Malathaat in the stretch.

Would love to know what the instructions were to Private Mission there.
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