The rise of Sunday Silence

Ridan_Remembered · Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:15 pm

Hi Tachyon, I finally found this board after losing the connection to the old one. Just wanted to tell you that California Chrome has some very nice-looking weanlings out of really nicely bred mares. There is a beautiful colt out of a mare by Neo Universe. Several are out of mares by Deep Impact and other Sunday Silence-line mares.

In the meantime, Chrome has made friends with all the Arrow Stud barn cats.

tachyon · Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:03 am

Ridan_Remembered wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:15 pm Hi Tachyon, I finally found this board after losing the connection to the old one. Just wanted to tell you that California Chrome has some very nice-looking weanlings out of really nicely bred mares. There is a beautiful colt out of a mare by Neo Universe. Several are out of mares by Deep Impact and other Sunday Silence-line mares.

In the meantime, Chrome has made friends with all the Arrow Stud barn cats.

Well comeback to the forum, Ridan!
We ALL hope that the California Chrome x Sunday Silence-line mare is going to be a magic cross.

Ridan_Remembered · Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:56 am

tachyon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:03 am
Ridan_Remembered wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:15 pm Hi Tachyon, I finally found this board after losing the connection to the old one. Just wanted to tell you that California Chrome has some very nice-looking weanlings out of really nicely bred mares. There is a beautiful colt out of a mare by Neo Universe. Several are out of mares by Deep Impact and other Sunday Silence-line mares.

In the meantime, Chrome has made friends with all the Arrow Stud barn cats.
Well comeback to the forum, Ridan!
We ALL hope that the California Chrome x Sunday Silence-line mare is going to be a magic cross.

Tachyon, here is the lovely weanling colt by Chrome out of Daiwa Dresser by Neo Universe. The first two generations of the female line are Shadai Farm breeding, but it goes back in the 5th generation to a mare named Sweet Tooth, who was the dam of the great Alydar.

This colt is by Chrome out of Heavenly Wind by Daiwa Major. The direct third dam is the famous Wind in Her Hair, dam of the great Deep Impact. I am so delighted at the quality of mares being sent to Chrome in Japan. I will try to find some of the other weanlings we've seen photos of courtesy of folks in Japan who share photos with us on Facebook.

tachyon · Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:57 am

California Chrome stamps his foals!!!!

Ridan_Remembered · Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:22 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:57 am California Chrome stamps his foals!!!!

He does stamp many of them. Of the 266 named foals for Chrome in Pedigree Query, 143 are chestnuts (54%). Although chestnut is my favorite equine coat color, I'm hoping we see at least one or two nice black Chrome foals one day. That would be Sunday coming through.

tachyon · Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:32 am

-- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2021

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2021 -- (number of mares bred in 2020)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 15 (16)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 51 (37)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 90 new
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 84 (148)

Flanders · Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:18 pm

Ridan_Remembered wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:22 pm
tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:57 am California Chrome stamps his foals!!!!
He does stamp many of them. Of the 266 named foals for Chrome in Pedigree Query, 143 are chestnuts (54%). Although chestnut is my favorite equine coat color, I'm hoping we see at least one or two nice black Chrome foals one day. That would be Sunday coming through.

Color is not stamping, chestnut is literally the only color gene he can give. If the mare doesn't give the chestnut gene as well then the foal can't be chestnut.

Flanders · Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:20 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:32 am -- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2021

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2021 -- (number of mares bred in 2020)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 15 (16)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 51 (37)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 90 new
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 84 (148)

When I made the list in the Report of Mares bred thread I almost said something about Yoshida because this is what his 2nd year? The drop is worrisome to me because I thought breeders liked him when he got almost 150 his first year.

tachyon · Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:53 am

Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:20 pm
tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:32 am -- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2021

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2021 -- (number of mares bred in 2020)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 15 (16)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 51 (37)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 90 new
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 84 (148)
When I made the list in the Report of Mares bred thread I almost said something about Yoshida because this is what his 2nd year? The drop is worrisome to me because I thought breeders liked him when he got almost 150 his first year.

Yes it's a bit worrisome.
His stud fee has been declining, too.

-- Yoshida's stud fee & number of mares covered history:

2020: US$20,000 -- 148 mares
2021: US$15,000 -- 84 mares
2022: US$12,500

Obviously Yoshida is not a very popular stallion.
But I know the reasons why breeders in the US become skeptical about this grandson of Sunday Silence.
It's been understood from the beginning that Yoshida is a type of stallion who can only prove his quality with his babies' real performances at the track especially on the dirt.
I just hope that WinStar will not let him go at least until his first crop's sophomore season.
Then we will see.

tachyon · Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:45 pm

Burgas(TUR)(C3. King David / Hat Trick) captured his 3rd local- G1 title in the Cumhurbaşkanlığı Koşusu (TUR-G1) 2400m turf at Ankara on Oct 30th 2021.
I now suspect that the grandson of Hat Trick(JPN) will become a stallion when he retires from racing, while making King David(USA) a major stallion in Turkey.
He is a very good horse!!

viewtopic.php?p=251625#p251625

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uy8FflkaZg
1st. Burgas (King David)
2nd. Long Runner (Gio Ponti)

King David(USA)(Hat Trick)

standing at Kahraman Stud, Turkey

Gemini · Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:59 pm

A lot of people bemoan the fact that stallions get sent to Turkey, but I'd rather these good bloodlines are allowed to flourish where they're appreciated. What's the point of staying in the U.S. if a stallion gets relegated to covering 8 mares a year in Wyoming?

tachyon · Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:07 am

I had no idea that Ivar(BRZ)(Agnes Gold) was such a cute boy!!!

-- from Claire (Novak) Crosby @BH_CCrosby
https://twitter.com/BH_CCrosby/status/1 ... 7137065984

He will be my sentimental favorite in the BC Mile!!!

tachyon · Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:10 pm

Loves Only You(JPN), 2016M. Deep Impact(JPN) x Loves Only Me(USA) by Storm Cat(USA), grabbed her 3rd G1 title under Yuga Kawada in the G1 Breeders Cup Filly & Mare Turf 11F turf at Del Mar on Nov 6th 2021 improving her record to 15-7-2-3.
She became the first Japanese-trained horse to win a Breeders Cup race!!!

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWGPBwd74o
1st. Loves Only You(JPN)
2nd. My Sister Nat(FR)
3rd. War Like Goddess(USA)

Love Only You(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001221351/

tachyon · Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:41 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:07 am I had no idea that Ivar(BRZ)(Agnes Gold) was such a cute boy!!!

-- from Claire (Novak) Crosby @BH_CCrosby
https://twitter.com/BH_CCrosby/status/1 ... 7137065984

He will be my sentimental favorite in the BC Mile!!!

Ivar finished in the great 3rd overcoming the wide draw.
I hope he has done enough to earn his place at stud in the US, but..

tachyon · Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:21 pm

Thank you Sunday Sillence.
You are the greatest.

Flanders · Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:28 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:21 pm Thank you Sunday Sillence.
You are the greatest.

You can add to the Dancing Brave thread too.

I saw he was the broodmare sire of her dam.

tachyon · Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:34 pm

Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:28 pm
tachyon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:21 pm Thank you Sunday Sillence.
You are the greatest.
You can add to the Dancing Brave thread too. I saw he was the broodmare sire of her dam.

Thank you!!
Yes!!!!! Marche Lorraine's second dam Kyoei March(Oka Sho winner) was the daughter of Dancing Brave I love.

Flanders · Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:36 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:34 pm
Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:28 pm
tachyon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:21 pm Thank you Sunday Sillence.
You are the greatest.
You can add to the Dancing Brave thread too. I saw he was the broodmare sire of her dam.
Thank you!!
Yes!!!!! Marche Lorraine's second dam Kyoei March(Oka Sho winner) was the daughter of Dancing Brave I love.

Really happy for you and for Japanese racing and breeding!

tachyon · Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:25 pm

Marche Lorraine(JPN), 2016M. Orfevre(JPN) x Vite Marcher(JPN) by French Deputy(USA), scored her first G1 title by a nose under superb Oisin Murphy in the G1 Breeders Cup Distaff 9F dirt at Del Mar on Nov 7th 2021.
Her race record is now 21-9-2-2.
That’s the first time the Triple Crown winner Orfevre (by Stay Gold) sired his group winner outside of Japan.

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5SpF7JAbo
1st. Marche Lorraine
2nd. Dunbar Road
3rd. Malathaat

Marche Lorraine(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001215728/

tachyon · Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:17 am

Breeders Cup Champions @Yahagi Stable in Del Mar