horses with unique coloring/facial markings

[Falinadin]

This flashy filly is hip 271 of the July Sale. Munnings X Saintly Spirit. I haven't been able to find a conformation photo of her yet, so this is from her walking video.

[Mylute]

North County Guy (The Pamplemousse) is a very unique-looking gray.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... min-stakes

[Flanders]

Hip 62 in the upcoming Fasig Tipton Saratoga Sale. He is a grey but at one of those fun stages of color change.
yearling colt by Quality Road - Chica Boom Chic, by Tapit

[Cisco]

Offered at the next Arqana yearling sale in Deauville :

Hip 82 : filly by Le Havre & Qatari Perfection



https://www.arqana.com/lots/vente_de_ye ... /278/86349

Hip 282 : filly by Intello & Soccer Mom (Monsun)



https://www.arqana.com/lots/vente_de_ye ... /278/86549

Hip 280 : filly by The Grey Gatsby & Skysweeper (Hurricane Run) :



https://www.arqana.com/lots/vente_de_ye ... /278/86547

Hip 350 : filly by Mastercraftsman & Deauville Shower :



https://www.arqana.com/lots/vente_de_ye ... /278/86617

[Flanders]

So this is a Facebook video, don't know if its available elsewhere. America's Best Racing has a Youtube channel but the video is not on there. Megson Farms in Kentucky has the largest band of white thoroughbreds in the world.

https://www.facebook.com/AmericasBestRa ... 2886182632

Megson Farms has some older youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOqhTRhPvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mzLKun7eM

[HB1994]

Sea The Stars - Bebe D’Amour colt sold at Arqana for €370K

[Missbeholder]

There's a pony working Saratoga now that has a color type that I don't remember seeing before and I'm curious. Sorry I don't have a picture or video.

He looks, at first glance, to be a light grey roan type, but with a little focus, he's got a lot of fine reddish hairs.....more like a red roan. Then ,over his hindquarters, his coat turns gradually white, very much like an appaloosa but with no spots.

IS this horse an Appaloosa? I had pretty much decided that, but every time I see this boy (or girl), I get more puzzled. I don't think I've ever seen an Appaloosa that looks like that before. Is there a genetic name for a color like this?

Obviously, I'm hoping some of you here know what horse I'm talking about. Wish I had a picture.

[Mylute]

There's a pony working Saratoga now that has a color type that I don't remember seeing before and I'm curious. Sorry I don't have a picture or video.

He looks, at first glance, to be a light grey roan type, but with a little focus, he's got a lot of fine reddish hairs.....more like a red roan. Then ,over his hindquarters, his coat turns gradually white, very much like an appaloosa but with no spots.

IS this horse an Appaloosa? I had pretty much decided that, but every time I see this boy (or girl), I get more puzzled. I don't think I've ever seen an Appaloosa that looks like that before. Is there a genetic name for a color like this?

Obviously, I'm hoping some of you here know what horse I'm talking about. Wish I had a picture.

I think I know what horse you're talking about. I saw a POA with similar coloring at a show recently. I *think* its considered varnish roan.

[Delamont]

There's a pony working Saratoga now that has a color type that I don't remember seeing before and I'm curious. Sorry I don't have a picture or video.

He looks, at first glance, to be a light grey roan type, but with a little focus, he's got a lot of fine reddish hairs.....more like a red roan. Then ,over his hindquarters, his coat turns gradually white, very much like an appaloosa but with no spots.

IS this horse an Appaloosa? I had pretty much decided that, but every time I see this boy (or girl), I get more puzzled. I don't think I've ever seen an Appaloosa that looks like that before. Is there a genetic name for a color like this?

Obviously, I'm hoping some of you here know what horse I'm talking about. Wish I had a picture.

The one with a skimpy black tail? (Or maybe his tail was tied/braided today).

[Willowood]

I think that would be a varnished Appaloosa? No real spots but has striped hoofs etc

[Delamont]

Sea The Stars - Bebe D’Amour colt sold at Arqana for €370K

Very pretty. And giving out with a 'Yeah? You were saying?' look.

[Mylute]

Sapphire Sioux (De Gaulle x Rubyone, by Testa Rossa) was posted to the 2018 Foals thread. she has two blue eyes. She is 3 this year and according to this 2020 blog post she should race this year.

https://quillypark.com.au/de-gaulle-great-start-2/

[Gemini]

There's a pony working Saratoga now that has a color type that I don't remember seeing before and I'm curious. Sorry I don't have a picture or video.

He looks, at first glance, to be a light grey roan type, but with a little focus, he's got a lot of fine reddish hairs.....more like a red roan. Then ,over his hindquarters, his coat turns gradually white, very much like an appaloosa but with no spots.

IS this horse an Appaloosa? I had pretty much decided that, but every time I see this boy (or girl), I get more puzzled. I don't think I've ever seen an Appaloosa that looks like that before. Is there a genetic name for a color like this?

Obviously, I'm hoping some of you here know what horse I'm talking about. Wish I had a picture.

The one with a skimpy black tail? (Or maybe his tail was tied/braided today).

I think I've seen him too...and he really does have a skimpy tail. I hope his people give him plenty of fly spray because he has nothing to work with, haha.

[Delamont]

There's a pony working Saratoga now that has a color type that I don't remember seeing before and I'm curious. Sorry I don't have a picture or video.

He looks, at first glance, to be a light grey roan type, but with a little focus, he's got a lot of fine reddish hairs.....more like a red roan. Then ,over his hindquarters, his coat turns gradually white, very much like an appaloosa but with no spots.

IS this horse an Appaloosa? I had pretty much decided that, but every time I see this boy (or girl), I get more puzzled. I don't think I've ever seen an Appaloosa that looks like that before. Is there a genetic name for a color like this?

Obviously, I'm hoping some of you here know what horse I'm talking about. Wish I had a picture.

The one with a skimpy black tail? (Or maybe his tail was tied/braided today).

I think I've seen him too...and he really does have a skimpy tail. I hope his people give him plenty of fly spray because he has nothing to work with, haha.

Saw him again today. That's a rat's tail, but he's quite active with it.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Yeah, that Appy has less tail than a Manx cat.
Humans have caused certain animals a lot of harm by breeding for features that are actually unhealthy for the animal (think toy breeds that HAVE to have C-sections to whelp, brachycephalic cats & dogs who can't breath well), and Appaloosas that are bred for skimpy tails is one. That rat-tailed pony is likely desperate to chase off biting flies, but his poor tail is useless.

[Missbeholder]

Yeah, that Appy has less tail than a Manx cat.
Humans have caused certain animals a lot of harm by breeding for features that are actually unhealthy for the animal (think toy breeds that HAVE to have C-sections to whelp, brachycephalic cats & dogs who can't breath well), and Appaloosas that are bred for skimpy tails is one. That rat-tailed pony is likely desperate to chase off biting flies, but his poor tail is useless.

Yes, I should have included the skimpy tail when trying to describe the horse initially. I was just so focused on what, for me, was a very unusual color and wondering if it was Appaloosa. That should have given me an answer before I asked it, as "tail deficiencies" are a feature of Appaloosas.

Didn't Baffert devise, or have someone devise for him, a tail extension for American Pharoah when he was a youngster! I seem to recall that as a 2yo, his tail only reached about halfway between his dock and his hocks.

[BaroqueAgain1]

I know that AP had been the victim of a fellow yearling chowing down on his tail, but I don't remember seeing him with extensions - just watched it grow out gradually over the months.
The fans of Walter Farley's Black Stallion series of books may remember that Alex helped soften Black Minx's bad attitude when he wove a tail extension for the filly out of hairs pulled from a half-dozen other horses. That gave the hot-tempered girl, who had had most of her tail cut off (IIRC) by someone slamming a stall door on it, a multi-colored tail with black, brown, red and grey hairs that she could finally use to chase flies.

[Delamont]

I know that AP had been the victim of a fellow yearling chowing down on his tail, but I don't remember seeing him with extensions - just watched it grow out gradually over the months.
The fans of Walter Farley's Black Stallion series of books may remember that Alex helped soften Black Minx's bad attitude when he wove a tail extension for the filly out of hairs pulled from a half-dozen other horses. That gave the hot-tempered girl, who had had most of her tail cut off (IIRC) by someone slamming a stall door on it, a multi-colored tail with black, brown, red and grey hairs that she could finally use to chase flies.

I remember that, too. Oddly enough I just saw a vintage What's My Line featuring a lady who made false tails for horses.

[Retrospectiv]

Yeah, that Appy has less tail than a Manx cat.
Humans have caused certain animals a lot of harm by breeding for features that are actually unhealthy for the animal (think toy breeds that HAVE to have C-sections to whelp, brachycephalic cats & dogs who can't breath well), and Appaloosas that are bred for skimpy tails is one. That rat-tailed pony is likely desperate to chase off biting flies, but his poor tail is useless.

No one bred appaloosas to have skimpy tails. It's purely part of the gene that causes 'appaloosa' characteristics (LP, leopard complex).
Quite to the contrary, people have been trying to breed that out for decades to have horses with fuller manes and tails, but sometimes the LP still wins out and you'll get one with a skimpy mane or tail. And this comes up in other breeds that carry LP as well again showing that this wasn't 'bred for' in Appaloosas.

[Missbeholder]

I sort of bumped into a video of American Pharoah that makes me question what I thought I saw. It was a video of AP in the ring at the Saratoga Yearling Sale 2013. He hammered that day for $300K, but must have RNA'd because I know Zayat never actually sold him. Anyway, beside the point.

He was there in that ring as a yearling with a pretty normal looking tail! It wasn't especially long by any stretch, but it did reach to just below his hocks. I could have sworn that when I saw him in the winner's circle after the Frontrunner (now renamed for him), he had this stumpy little tail that didn't reach his hocks! Did the youngster that attacked his tail with his chompers get to him after the yearling sale but before he went to Bob for training? I'm a little confused now. Did I not see what I thought I saw?

I know it matters not at this point. I just want to know if my eyes deceived me.