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-- from racingpost

Epsom chief Cooper hails Adayar's King George success as 'great for the Derby'
https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... rby/502208
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Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:25 am

Has anyone read a detailed article about the latest scandal in Irish/UK racing involving severely injured horses being sent to slaughter from Ireland to the UK? This article just barely has anything about it and I hadn't read anything before that. I was able to find some other articles that didn't give many details either.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... -of-times/
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Not sure how detailed in comparison, but this was on the BBC front page last week: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57881979
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Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:12 pm

Flanders wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:25 am Has anyone read a detailed article about the latest scandal in Irish/UK racing involving severely injured horses being sent to slaughter from Ireland to the UK? This article just barely has anything about it and I hadn't read anything before that. I was able to find some other articles that didn't give many details either.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... -of-times/
I haven't read much per se, but it's been all the talk on the English/Irish racing podcasts if you have a couple hours to spare

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/t ... 0529706052

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/e ... 0529459092

Good insights with members of the industry on how some trainers/owners are content to hand off horses to "dealers" or "friends of friends" who say they will love the horse forever. Then, whether on purpose or through a change in circumstance, the horse is sold into the foodchain. Other trainers and owners keep very close track of their former horses and openly say they will take any of their horses back if the new owner can no longer care for it.

Most racing commentators say that the documentary was a hit piece against an already struggling industry (sparked by the Gordon Elliott controversy this winter/spring) when in reality it showed more about horrible conditions in the most prominent English slaughterhouse, F Drury & Sons.

However, a couple of the former racehorses they tracked down were once at Gordon Elliott's and had been retired due to injury and given to "forever homes"... then eventually shipped to England when they barely had 3 sound legs to stand on and killed in really barbaric ways by unprofessional slaughterhouse workers. One horse was formerly owned by superpower jumps owners Simon Munir and Isaac Souede, who announced this week they were pulling their horses from Gordon Elliot in light of the new scandal.

There is also some heat about how microchip fraud might be prevalent in the horse slaughter industry. For example, horses who have received Bute at any point in their lives are not supposed to be eligible for slaughter. However, almost every performance horse has received Bute at some point in their lives. But if you upload the info from a horse who might not have ever had Bute onto the microchip of one who isn't fit for consumption, you can bypass that. Former Cheltenham Foxhunter Chase winner Tammy's Hill was euthanized after getting injured in the 2015 Irish Grand National, yet a horse with his profile on its microchip was processed this year at F Drury & Sons.

Just the broad strokes, but it's certainly another PR nightmare that racing really does not need.
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I read articles on RacingPost (those that weren't behind their paywall) that also described how one clip in the video showed a horse being "euthanized' by a slaughterhouse worker using a long rifle! That sort of practice breaks rules governing both worker safety and humane standards for horses being killed.
Lots of issues here, and the British racing industry better move quickly to address them. Microchip fraud could be an international problem, if it is that easy to corrupt/change the info on a chip.
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Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:35 am

Stradivarius is out of the Goodwood Cup. Phooey.
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Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:17 pm

If it can happen to AOB, I guess it can happen to anybody. Don’t they scan the microchips BEFORE the horses run?

We ran the wrong horse' - Jessica Harrington apologises after Galway mix-up

https://www.racingpost.com/news/race-re ... rse/502710
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 am

ALCOHOL FREE "downs" POETIC FLARE in the Sussex!
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:49 am

Mylute wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 am ALCOHOL FREE "downs" POETIC FLARE in the Sussex!
By No Nay Never out of Plying -- always good to see a cleverly named horse take a Group 1!
And earlier today, Kentucky Kitten won at 1 1/4 miles at Redcar. He's by Bobby's Kitten, who edged No Nay Never in the BC Turf Sprint at 3.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:52 pm

No Nay Never also sired Armor, the winner of the G3 Molecomb Stakes for 2yo run just before the Sussex. NNN is doing a pretty good job carrying on Scat Daddy's legacy.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Current plan, as per Charlie Appleby, is for Adayar to prep for the Arc in the Prix Niel over the Arc course and distance on September 12

Hurricane Lane will run next in the St Leger on September 11. If he comes out of the race fresh, he will also run in the Arc.
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:46 pm

Filly Suesa (Night of Thunder) takes the G2 King George Qatar Stakes with Battaash finishing seventh.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... t-goodwood

Lots of fillies beatin' the colts lately.

ETA: Retirement now likely for Battaash per RP.
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In today's fifth race at Catterick (UK), the second-place runner was Morty, a 3yo Kingman gelding that had won at Ripon, 20 miles down the road, YESTERDAY. Both races were at 5 furlongs. I've seen long-winded chasers and hurdlers come back the next day several times, but never a sprinter. Is this common in the UK? That he didn't win today was no surprise, as the Ripon race was a seller while today's race was a Grade 6 handicap. This is really bottom-of-the-barrel stuff, I know, and I apologize for even looking at it (at least I didn't bet on it) but given the long breaks between starts that even the cheapest runners get here in the US, it certainly grabbed my attention!

Also, in an earlier race at Vaal (SAf), a horse named Fred finished off the board today after running fourth at Turffontein on Sunday -- one day's rest. The race value was 100,000 rand, so this was not a cheap ... oh wait, one rand is 7 cents US, so the purse was just south of 5,000 bucks.
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WaquoitNBroadBrush wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:18 pm In today's fifth race at Catterick (UK), the second-place runner was Morty, a 3yo Kingman gelding that had won at Ripon, 20 miles down the road, YESTERDAY. Both races were at 5 furlongs. I've seen long-winded chasers and hurdlers come back the next day several times, but never a sprinter. Is this common in the UK? That he didn't win today was no surprise, as the Ripon race was a seller while today's race was a Grade 6 handicap. This is really bottom-of-the-barrel stuff, I know, and I apologize for even looking at it (at least I didn't bet on it) but given the long breaks between starts that even the cheapest runners get here in the US, it certainly grabbed my attention!

Also, in an earlier race at Vaal (SAf), a horse named Fred finished off the board today after running fourth at Turffontein on Sunday -- one day's rest. The race value was 100,000 rand, so this was not a cheap ... oh wait, one rand is 7 cents US, so the purse was just south of 5,000 bucks.
Not uncommon at the low or high level, see: Blue Point and Choisir both winning the 5f King’s Stand and 6f Golden/Diamond Jubilee at Royal Ascot. The two G1 events are 5 days apart.
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:38 am

Northport wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:50 pm
WaquoitNBroadBrush wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:18 pm In today's fifth race at Catterick (UK), the second-place runner was Morty, a 3yo Kingman gelding that had won at Ripon, 20 miles down the road, YESTERDAY. Both races were at 5 furlongs. I've seen long-winded chasers and hurdlers come back the next day several times, but never a sprinter. Is this common in the UK? That he didn't win today was no surprise, as the Ripon race was a seller while today's race was a Grade 6 handicap. This is really bottom-of-the-barrel stuff, I know, and I apologize for even looking at it (at least I didn't bet on it) but given the long breaks between starts that even the cheapest runners get here in the US, it certainly grabbed my attention!

Also, in an earlier race at Vaal (SAf), a horse named Fred finished off the board today after running fourth at Turffontein on Sunday -- one day's rest. The race value was 100,000 rand, so this was not a cheap ... oh wait, one rand is 7 cents US, so the purse was just south of 5,000 bucks.
Not uncommon at the low or high level, see: Blue Point and Choisir both winning the 5f King’s Stand and 6f Golden/Diamond Jubilee at Royal Ascot. The two G1 events are 5 days apart.
Horses run five days apart here fairly often, although not in Grade 1 stakes. I haven't seen a next-day or two-days-later runner since the days of the Massachusetts fair circuit, which ended in 2005, although they probably still exist at the fairs of the Mountain West.
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:02 am

I believe it was Louis Quatorze or Conquistador Cielo who won the Met Mile and then the Belmont the next day
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:51 am

The Met/Belmont double was six days apart. Still an incredible achievement though!

Closest I can think of in NA is Willy Beamin winning the King’s Bishop off three days rest in 2012.
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Tessablue wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:51 am The Met/Belmont double was six days apart. Still an incredible achievement though!
Yes, and it was Conquistador Cielo, for Woody Stephens. I can't imagine Nick Zito even thought about the Met Mile for Louis Quatorze, who was no miler!

How many days did Oscar Barrera wait after winning an allowance race before sending Shifty Sheik out to nearly win the Woodward?
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:12 pm

Willie Beamin (Richard Dutrow, Jr) at the Spa, three days after winning the Albany Stakes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCf6rMhQjq8
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Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:51 pm

BC Turf Winner Tarnawa Victorious in Ballyroan Return
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... oan-return
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