Across the pond

[JohannaSwe]

Longshot Stroxx Carlras won the Swedish derby with a nose over Wolfof Vancouver, favorite No Short Cuts was 5th.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Order Of Australia, last season's Breeders' Cup Mile winner, barely broke a sweat when winning the Group 2 Romanised Minstrel Stakes under Ryan Moore.
Read more: https://www.racingpost.com/news/race-re ... ble/501129

Reading O'Brien's remarks, IMO it's very possible that the colt will aim for the BC Mile at Del Mar if he continues to impress.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Well phooey...we won't get to see a match-up between Order of Australia, Poetic Flare and and Palace Pier in the Sussex Stakes.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... sex-stakes

[HB1994]

The King George VI and Queen Elizabeth S (G1) on Saturday is shaping up as a good one:

1 Broome Wayne Lordan
2 Mishriff David Egan
3 Love Ryan Moore
4 Wonderful Tonight Oisin Murphy
5 Adayar William Buick
6 Lone Eagle Frankie Dettori

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... tip/501322

[BaroqueAgain1]

I read that Love will be carrying eight more pounds than Adayar, something I don't think we would ever see here.
That's some heavy respect the filly is having to carry.

[Starine]

Terrific field. I think Mishriff isn't getting the respect he deserves.

[Missbeholder]

The King George VI and Queen Elizabeth S (G1) on Saturday is shaping up as a good one:

1 Broome Wayne Lordan
2 Mishriff David Egan
3 Love Ryan Moore
4 Wonderful Tonight Oisin Murphy
5 Adayar William Buick
6 Lone Eagle Frankie Dettori

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... tip/501322

Is the small field thing really spreading now to across the pond? Doesn't this race generally draw more horses? Really asking. Not trying to be a smart ass.

[Flanders]

Is the small field thing really spreading now to across the pond? Doesn't this race generally draw more horses? Really asking. Not trying to be a smart ass.

I just pulled the data for the past 20 years.
The past 10 years(2011-2020) the average starters were 7.6 per running. Last year there was only 3 horses in the race. If I expand to the past 20 runnings (2001-2020), its 8.4 average starters. From 2001-2010 it was 9.2 average starters. So yeah its on the lower end but not out of the ordinary at least lately. I included the starters below.

2020 - 3
2019 - 11
2018 - 7
2017 - 10
2016 - 7
2015 - 7
2014 - 8
2013 - 8
2012 - 10
2011 - 5
2010 - 6
2009 - 9
2008 - 8
2007 - 7
2006 - 6
2005 - 12
2004 - 11
2003 - 12
2002 - 9
2001 - 12

[Northport]

The King George VI and Queen Elizabeth S (G1) on Saturday is shaping up as a good one:

1 Broome Wayne Lordan
2 Mishriff David Egan
3 Love Ryan Moore
4 Wonderful Tonight Oisin Murphy
5 Adayar William Buick
6 Lone Eagle Frankie Dettori

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... tip/501322

Is the small field thing really spreading now to across the pond? Doesn't this race generally draw more horses? Really asking. Not trying to be a smart ass.

The King George has had some trouble with field sizes the last couple years. Even races like the Coral Eclipse and Juddmonte International had 4 runners this year and 5 last year, respectively. Definitely a quality over quantity thing lately.

[Squeaky]

The King George VI and Queen Elizabeth S (G1) on Saturday is shaping up as a good one:

1 Broome Wayne Lordan
2 Mishriff David Egan
3 Love Ryan Moore
4 Wonderful Tonight Oisin Murphy
5 Adayar William Buick
6 Lone Eagle Frankie Dettori

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... tip/501322

Anyone know what time (EST) this will go? Is 10:30 am EST correct? Thanks!

[Starine]

10:35 EST

[WaquoitNBroadBrush]

The King George VI and Queen Elizabeth S (G1) on Saturday is shaping up as a good one:

1 Broome Wayne Lordan
2 Mishriff David Egan
3 Love Ryan Moore
4 Wonderful Tonight Oisin Murphy
5 Adayar William Buick
6 Lone Eagle Frankie Dettori

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... tip/501322

Is the small field thing really spreading now to across the pond? Doesn't this race generally draw more horses? Really asking. Not trying to be a smart ass.

The King George has had some trouble with field sizes the last couple years. Even races like the Coral Eclipse and Juddmonte International had 4 runners this year and 5 last year, respectively. Definitely a quality over quantity thing lately.

Ordinary races on ordinary cards at British and Irish tracks large and small sometimes go with four or even three entries -- and that's with no scratches. There's a very ordinary novice race (2-year-olds) at Thirsk, in Yorkshire, today that will go with a four-horse field. And at Cork, in Ireland, a colt, a gelding and a filly will go at it in a race with ridiculous conditions:
For three years old and upwards and whose sire established one or more yearling sales in the relevant year with a median price of not more than #50,000 and that have not won more than one race and that have not been placed first, second or third in a Listed or Group race. Weights: 3-y-o 131 lbs 4-y-o and up 139 lbs Fillies allowed 5 lbs.

And the weirdest thing about that card is that all but three of the eight races on it will have fields of 12 or more. -- 15, 13, 13, 12, and 17!
Oh, and two of the three in the three-horse race are USA-bred: Rebel Step (Tamarkuz out of a Purim mare) and Talacre, from Juddmonte's American operation, who is by Flintshire out of an Oasis Dream mare. The outsider is Doolin Dancer, an Irish bred who is out of an A.P. Indy mare!

[Missbeholder]

Is the small field thing really spreading now to across the pond? Doesn't this race generally draw more horses? Really asking. Not trying to be a smart ass.

The King George has had some trouble with field sizes the last couple years. Even races like the Coral Eclipse and Juddmonte International had 4 runners this year and 5 last year, respectively. Definitely a quality over quantity thing lately.

Ordinary races on ordinary cards at British and Irish tracks large and small sometimes go with four or even three entries -- and that's with no scratches. There's a very ordinary novice race (2-year-olds) at Thirsk, in Yorkshire, today that will go with a four-horse field. And at Cork, in Ireland, a colt, a gelding and a filly will go at it in a race with ridiculous conditions:
For three years old and upwards and whose sire established one or more yearling sales in the relevant year with a median price of not more than #50,000 and that have not won more than one race and that have not been placed first, second or third in a Listed or Group race. Weights: 3-y-o 131 lbs 4-y-o and up 139 lbs Fillies allowed 5 lbs.

And the weirdest thing about that card is that all but three of the eight races on it will have fields of 12 or more. -- 15, 13, 13, 12, and 17!
Oh, and two of the three in the three-horse race are USA-bred: Rebel Step (Tamarkuz out of a Purim mare) and Talacre, from Juddmonte's American operation, who is by Flintshire out of an Oasis Dream mare. The outsider is Doolin Dancer, an Irish bred who is out of an A.P. Indy mare!

Thanks to all for the responses to my question. I don't follow international racing as closely as I should, so it's nice to get some enlightenment from time to time. Much appreciated!

[Squeaky]

Love looks great. Why was Wonderful Tonight scratched?

[Northport]

Love looks great. Why was Wonderful Tonight scratched?

Connections said she wouldn't run unless it rained. She's best on soft ground, I think she could be lethal in the Arc if it as soft as it usually is.

Adayar is the real deal, it looked for a minute like Mishriff might get there, but Adayar just too good. It's refreshing to see a Derby winner actually win a race after taking the Epsom classic.

[HB1994]

Can’t wait to se Adayar vs St Mark’s Basilica. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

[Squeaky]

Can’t wait to se Adayar vs St Mark’s Basilica. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Yes! Maybe at York Juddmonte International in Aug or Irish Champion stakes in Sept? SMB beat Mishriff by 3.5 lengths, Adayar beat same by 1.75 lengths…should be a great race if it happens. Godolphin vs arch rivals Coolmore

[Northport]

Charlie Appleby is really in the enviable position of where to place Hurricane Lane and Adayar. Before the Derby, Adayar was touted as the potential St Leger horse. After the Derby, Hurricane Lane was then slated as the St Leger horse. Now they've swept the top 12f G1 races of the summer... do you still aim for winning another classic because Frankel progeny stay all day, even if the St Leger isn't as *~*sexy*~* of a race? Or do you wind them back to go for the International, Irish Champion Stakes, then run both in the Arc?

[BaroqueAgain1]

I'd love to see a rematch between Love and those boys with more reasonable weight allowances. Carrying eight more pounds than a big, strong colt like Adayar may have blunted her stretch run today.

[tachyon]

What a race!
I wonder if we are seeing an excellent group of 3yo colts this year in Europe.
Also that's a perfect victory for the Galileo sire-line.
While Adayar emulates his grandsire by achieving the Derby - King George double, Frankel really cements his own super-sire status.