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Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:34 pm

KatieK101 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:32 pm
Summer Bird wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:47 pm Poor Concrete Rose went to Instagrand for her first foal. Confirmed in foal
:oops: Definitely not who I would have sent her to, but...

Off-topic, but I'm crossing fingers and toes for Express Train tomorrow! :)
I am too! And of course his mom and full brother are as well
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Summer Bird wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:47 pm Poor Concrete Rose went to Instagrand for her first foal. Confirmed in foal
cringe....
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So they sent a mare who had trouble staying sound to a sire that had trouble staying sound. Sounds about right for modern breeding.
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CorridorZ75 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:52 pm So they sent a mare who had trouble staying sound to a sire that had trouble staying sound. Sounds about right for modern breeding.
Larry Best proving yet again that he really needs to hire a racing and/or bloodstock manager. Dude's spent at least $30mil in the last 5 years at the sales, with 20 horses purchased as yearlings or two year olds, plus broodmare purchases like Concrete Rose and Blue Prize... and tbh he doesn't have much to show for it.

Take a gander at "Top Horses" then "Auction History" of literally any one of his horses. Cheapest I can find is $350,000 as a yearling. Most are between $900,000 - $1,500,000 at two year old sales it seems.
https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Resul ... 181&rbt=TB
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Northport wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:22 pm Larry Best proving yet again that he really needs to hire a racing and/or bloodstock manager. Dude's spent at least $30mil in the last 5 years at the sales, with 20 horses purchased as yearlings or two year olds, plus broodmare purchases like Concrete Rose and Blue Prize... and tbh he doesn't have much to show for it.

Take a gander at "Top Horses" then "Auction History" of literally any one of his horses. Cheapest I can find is $350,000 as a yearling. Most are between $900,000 - $1,500,000 at two year old sales it seems.
https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Resul ... 181&rbt=TB
In general I agree, but I have to give him this: out of the 20 horses that have raced under his name, 6 are stakes winners (30%), 4 of those are graded stakes winners (20%). 2 of the 12 colts he raced those are now starting stud careers in Kentucky (16.7%). Those numbers are actually pretty good, well above book 1 averages. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think he's trying to pull a Ken Ramsey and is aiming to get his stallions off the ground by supporting them well himself.
(Now, should Instagrand be starting a stud career...)
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TurfLover wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:26 pm Fascinating article about Philippa Cooper - formally the owner of Normandie Stud.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... ina/475716
She talks a lot more freely about genetics and testing than any other interviews I've seen this year and it's great to see someone trying to raise classy stayers
Sounds like Europe is going the way of the U.S.
Not encouraging.
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Pay the Man (MSW) ----> Aurelius Maximus (in foal)

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Summer Bird wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:47 pm Poor Concrete Rose went to Instagrand for her first foal. Confirmed in foal
As a breeder it depresses me that more thoroughbred breeders do NOT care as much about soundness and genetics and hereditary issues as I do...I want the breed to last and be sound for future generations...and hold up for second careers...and with bloodlines like this we know this foal will probably cycle into the gene pool in a few years
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Summer Bird wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:47 pm Poor Concrete Rose went to Instagrand for her first foal. Confirmed in foal
Although Concrete Rose and Instagrand are beautiful,flashy bays and Instagrand has quite a bit of chrome so I am looking forward to this foal next year to see if it inherits daddy's looks
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I heard Guarana was retired, any predictions on who she'll see?
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Nenikikamen23 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:13 am I heard Guarana was retired, any predictions on who she'll see?
No offense to Three Chimneys but they don't really have any proven stallions worthy of a mare that nice.

I would guess Into Mischief or Uncle Mo.
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Northport wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:21 am
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:13 am I heard Guarana was retired, any predictions on who she'll see?
No offense to Three Chimneys but they don't really have any proven stallions worthy of a mare that nice.

I would guess Into Mischief or Uncle Mo.
I wouldn't be surprised to see her sent to Gun Runner. He isn't proven but his foals look real nice, and Three Chimneys might pull a Beholder/Bolt d'Oro mating. But Into Mischief or Uncle Mo would make a lot of sense. I do hope she hasn't been retired though, I've loved watching her.
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Northport wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:21 am
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:13 am I heard Guarana was retired, any predictions on who she'll see?
No offense to Three Chimneys but they don't really have any proven stallions worthy of a mare that nice.

I would guess Into Mischief or Uncle Mo.
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KatieK101 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:48 pm
Northport wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:21 am
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:13 am I heard Guarana was retired, any predictions on who she'll see?
No offense to Three Chimneys but they don't really have any proven stallions worthy of a mare that nice.

I would guess Into Mischief or Uncle Mo.
I wouldn't be surprised to see her sent to Gun Runner. He isn't proven but his foals look real nice, and Three Chimneys might pull a Beholder/Bolt d'Oro mating. But Into Mischief or Uncle Mo would make a lot of sense. I do hope she hasn't been retired though, I've loved watching her.
She was confirmed retired on Chad Brown's twitter, unfortunately
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Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:26 am

Interested to see that the dam of Colonel Liam was bred this year to Copper Bullet rather than back to Liam’s Map. I guess they both have UBS in the pedigree and CB less expensive.
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