Stallion News

HB1994 · Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:49 pm

Arc winner Sottsass has been retired to stud. At least we got to see him run as a 4yo.

BaroqueAgain1 · Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 pm

And at least when the connections say, 'he has nothing left to prove,' the horse did just win what is arguably the most important turf race in the world.
Eventually, people will forget that it was run in a bottomless bog, which compromised most of the better horses left in a race that also had multiple scratches due to an inadvertent feed contamination.

Gemini · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:21 am

HB1994 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:49 pm Arc winner Sottsass has been retired to stud. At least we got to see him run as a 4yo.

If Sottsass hadn't won the Arc, he'd probably be running at age 5.

Flanders · Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:08 am

Nah, he was destined to be retired this year. Coolmore bought into him at the beginning of the year. I just hope they don't send him to National Hunt right off the bat.

Northport · Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:59 am

Yeah, I’m concerned that he won’t get a fair chance at stud, considering he isn’t by one of their own stallions and never actually raced for their core partnership. Besides American Triple Crown winners, Coolmore never sends any of their best mares to any of their own Freshman stallions.

His damsire is also Galileo, so would they send him any of their best mares to him if they could? Because we know he won’t be getting any of the Scat Daddy, Deep Impact, Pivotal, etc mares. Coolmore did breed Chrysanthemum to Frankel, resulting in Cunco, whose pedigree looks like a Christmas tree, so who knows.

I would suspect that any of the Galileo mares that are staying in Ireland to be covered by Coolmore stallions in 2021 will be going to No Nay Never (though he proved in 2020 that his fee needs to be slashed big time, he had a terrible year for a horse standing for 175,000) or the newly acquired Wootton Bassett.

I’d suspect we see him either standing under their National Hunt banner or sold back to France in the next 3-4 years.

Gemini · Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:40 am

Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:08 am Nah, he was destined to be retired this year. Coolmore bought into him at the beginning of the year. I just hope they don't send him to National Hunt right off the bat.

Ah, I wasn't aware that Sottsass' stud plans had already been in place.

Gemini · Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:45 am

Northport wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:59 am Coolmore did breed Chrysanthemum to Frankel, resulting in Cunco, whose pedigree looks like a Christmas tree, so who knows.

I looked up Cunco's pedigree. You weren't exaggerating.

Flanders · Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:18 am

He is standing at Coolmore Ireland and not their National Hunt division in 2021.

https://coolmore.com/farms/ireland/news ... 0achieved.

KatieK101 · Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:08 pm

Gift Box retired to Lanes End Farm.

Flanders · Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm

KatieK101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:08 pm Gift Box retired to Lanes End Farm.

They are going all in on the Candy Ride line.

Northport · Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:47 pm

I’m guessing with all these new additions to Lane’s End we are going to see Code of Honor race on at 5? He also hasn’t really added much to his resume as a 4 year old

KatieK101 · Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:39 pm

Northport wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:47 pm I’m guessing with all these new additions to Lane’s End we are going to see Code of Honor race on at 5? He also hasn’t really added much to his resume as a 4 year old

I could imagine him having a Gun Runner-esq season if he ran next year; should he do just that, it would only help his (and NOBLE MISSION'S!!) resumes.

Btw. McKinzie has been retired. I haven't seen it posted in here yet.

Slewfan2 · Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:18 pm

Northport wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:47 pm I’m guessing with all these new additions to Lane’s End we are going to see Code of Honor race on at 5? He also hasn’t really added much to his resume as a 4 year old

He also doesn’t have some hot pedigree - it’s not like Noble Mission or his sons are in huge demand.

BaroqueAgain1 · Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:34 am

He's a full to Frankel, right? Kind of hard to fault his pedigree.

Summer Bird · Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:14 am

Also pretty sure Noble Mission won’t be around for next year’s breeding season

Ziggypop · Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:46 am

Summer Bird wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:14 am Also pretty sure Noble Mission won’t be around for next year’s breeding season

Why?

mariasmon · Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:01 am

Ziggypop wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:46 am
Summer Bird wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:14 am Also pretty sure Noble Mission won’t be around for next year’s breeding season
Why?

He's going to Japan.

Summer Bird · Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:54 am

mariasmon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:01 am
Ziggypop wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:46 am
Summer Bird wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:14 am Also pretty sure Noble Mission won’t be around for next year’s breeding season
Why?
He's going to Japan.

Yep! Japanese paid pretty good money for him

CorridorZ75 · Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:59 am

Considering he has already had one colic surgery, I hope he makes it through the trip without another episode.

Slewfan2 · Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:01 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:34 am He's a full to Frankel, right? Kind of hard to fault his pedigree.

Yes, I’m well aware of that, but Noble Mission isn’t a hot commodity as a sire, and I hardly think breeders will bang their door downs for Code of Honor because of his sire being a full to Frankel