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Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:29 pm

Diver52 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:34 pm Re Force the Pass--what happens to holders of a lifetime breeding right if the stallion is basically made inaccessible? Are you just sh** out of luck?
Yeah that or they get a cut out of whatever he was sold for as a consolation prize.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:27 pm

Instagrand has been retired- will stand at Taylor Made for 7500.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:26 pm

so taylor made sold chrome to bring in instagrand???a horse who won two races out of nine starts?
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:06 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:26 pm so taylor made sold chrome to bring in instagrand???a horse who won two races out of nine starts?
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:23 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:26 pm so taylor made sold chrome to bring in instagrand???a horse who won two races out of nine starts?
You don’t really believe that Chrome was sold to make room for Instagrand do you? They were/are priced completely different and Instagrand’s breeding is more commercial.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:17 pm

Creator(USA)(Tapit) sired his first JRA winner, when his 2yo colt Gratt Eldingu(JPN)[o/o Sophia Rouge(JPN) by Kurofune(USA)] won by five lengths in his first dirt test going 1800m at Nakayama 2R , Sep 12th 2020.

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001263000/

-- First-season sires this year who have got off the mark in JRA:

A Shin Hikari[/b](JPN)(Deep Impact)
Asia Express(USA)(Henny Hughes)
Clean Ecology(JPN)(King Kamehameha)
Creator(USA)(Tapit)
Danon Legend(JPN)(Macho Uno)
Discreet Cat(USA)(Forestry)
Duramente(JPN)(King Kamehameha)
Leontes(JPN)(KIng Kamehameha)
Lovely Day(JPN)(King Kamehameha)
Makfi(GB)(Dubawi)
Maurice(JPN)(Screen Hero)
Mikki Isle(JPN)(Deep Impact)
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:26 pm

I’ll Have Another Relocates To Ocean Breeze Ranch In California For 2021
I'll Have Another, the dual classic winner and champion 3-year-old male of 2012, has been purchased privately by former racing connections J. Paul and Zillah Reddam, and he will stand at their Ocean Breeze Ranch in Bonsail, Calif., for the 2021 breeding season, Daily Racing Form reports.

The 11-year-old son of Flower Alley began his stallion career in Japan, and was brought back to the U.S. to stand in California at Ballena Vista Farm prior to the 2019 breeding season. He was first purchased privately a few months ago by Doug O'Neill, I'll Have Another's trainer during his on-track career, who turned the horse over to the Reddams.

The purchase was done with a bit of urgency over concerns that the stallion might be sent overseas once again.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... -for-2021/

Hmmmmmmmmmm.......
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:58 am

Awesome that Doug O'Neill bought the horse and gave him to reddam to prevent I'll have another from being sold. I know Doug has always really loved his horses. One only has to look at what fantastic shape lava man is in to figure that out
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:25 pm

Squeaky wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:27 pm Instagrand has been retired- will stand at Taylor Made for 7500.
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In terms of I'll Have Another's sale, it's nice that his old connections have him back, hopefully he inherits the small Reddam broodmare band that helped Square Eddie become a top regional stallion. The urgency to avoid a potential overseas sale sounds kind of ominous, are we assuming it would be Korea, Turkey, maybe Saudi Arabia? Somewhere more obscure on the international racing scene than that?
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:24 pm

Honor AP retired due to an injury sustained in the derby. He will go to lanes end
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:14 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:24 pm Honor AP retired due to an injury sustained in the derby. He will go to lanes end
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... lanes-end/

What I find odd, is that it took them 9 days to announce this. These things usually get announced next day or two after a race.
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Retrospectiv wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:14 pm
TapitsGal wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:24 pm Honor AP retired due to an injury sustained in the derby. He will go to lanes end
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... lanes-end/

What I find odd, is that it took them 9 days to announce this. These things usually get announced next day or two after a race.
The DRF article says they didn't find the injury until after he returned to Santa Anita. I just don't know when he returned to Santa Anita.
https://www.drf.com/news/honor-p-retire ... don-injury
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Flanders wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:24 pm The DRF article says they didn't find the injury until after he returned to Santa Anita. I just don't know when he returned to Santa Anita.
https://www.drf.com/news/honor-p-retire ... don-injury
He came back the next day or no later than the following. I remember seeing a video of him walking at Santa Anita, and I thought he came back quite fast.
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:15 pm

Never a wasted minute getting them on the stud farm.

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Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:53 pm

Honor Code is one of the best-looking horses I’ve ever seen in person. Stunning.
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:25 pm

HB1994 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:53 pm Honor Code is one of the best-looking horses I’ve ever seen in person. Stunning.
How do you price HAP for a 2021 fee? Anybody?
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:44 pm

Honor A.P. was given Indy’s old stall...and Honor Code was moved from his stall near his sires to make room for Quality Road.

Does this mean anything? Joe Nevills from TDN did a wonderful article and, when asked, he said that while he’s not sure, he thinks it could be just a move to give the horses a change of scenery.
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:07 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:44 pm Honor A.P. was given Indy’s old stall...and Honor Code was moved from his stall near his sires to make room for Quality Road.

Does this mean Lane’s End is close to giving up on him or is it just a “reward” for QR?
I think it reflects more on Quality Road being their best current stallion than them *~*giving up*~* on Honor Code. Lane's End doesn't really give up on stallions, do they? Not in the way that Spendthrift or WinStar do, especially when it's a stallion that they've deemed the heir to their patriarch.

As for fee... I think $10,000-$15,000 would make sense? But I also think most stallions are overpriced, even if they get 150+ mares
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 pm

Northport wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:07 pm
Slewfan2 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:44 pm Honor A.P. was given Indy’s old stall...and Honor Code was moved from his stall near his sires to make room for Quality Road.

Does this mean Lane’s End is close to giving up on him or is it just a “reward” for QR?
I think it reflects more on Quality Road being their best current stallion than them *~*giving up*~* on Honor Code. Lane's End doesn't really give up on stallions, do they? Not in the way that Spendthrift or WinStar do, especially when it's a stallion that they've deemed the heir to their patriarch.

As for fee... I think $10,000-$15,000 would make sense? But I also think most stallions are overpriced, even if they get 150+ mares
I was thinking that....in fact I thought they might move QR to Indy’s stall.

That’s probably fair, although I guess it depends on what LE has heard from breeders. I think he’ll be more highly regarded than many fans thought of him, though his sire being promising, but unproven, is something to consider.

I edited my post above to add the below:
Joe Nevills from TDN did a wonderful article and, when asked, he said that while he’s not sure, he thinks it could be just a move to give the horses a change of scenery.
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Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:28 pm

If Honor AP has been given grandpa's stall and let's face it AP Indy is huge if not impossible hooves to fill...is this a sign that they have extremely high hopes for the stallion?
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