2020 Matings
- mariasmon
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Well, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.
I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
- mariasmon
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It's no secret that Ann Moss seems to prefer later foals and Zenyatta's offspring have all been brought along at a glacial pace by John Shirreffs, so having a June foal is probably not a concern for them. Zellda has been in his barn for, what, 8-9 months and is nowhere close to racing?Missbeholder wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pmWell, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.
I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
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Do we want to make bets on when zellda will make a start?2021?2022? And will she have any better success than her brothers? All though if she doesn't take to racing, I'm guessing they'd make her a broodmare to keep zenyattas line goingmariasmon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:16 pmIt's no secret that Ann Moss seems to prefer later foals and Zenyatta's offspring have all been brought along at a glacial pace by John Shirreffs, so having a June foal is probably not a concern for them. Zellda has been in his barn for, what, 8-9 months and is nowhere close to racing?Missbeholder wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pmWell, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.
I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
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There's zero chance that any progeny of Zenyatta will race before Autumn of its three year old year, especially if they continue to send them to Sheriffs. Having a May or June foal doesn't matter at that point.Missbeholder wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pmWell, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.
I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
If Zellda ends up even starting this year, I'd wager they give her 2 or 3 starts to break her maiden before she gets retired. Unless she ends up being a superstar, but it seems like it's been a while since we've heard anything about her.
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Adopted Kingdom (2nd dam is Precious Kitten) --> Fast Anna
Ana Luisa (BRZ) --> Palace Malice
Ballyhoo Kat (IRE) (o/o Sharp Lisa) --> St Patrick's Day
Caressing --> Gun Runner
Connie and Michael --> Gun Runner
Danceinthesunlight (dam of Moreno) --> Palace Malice
Dream Dancing --> Gun Runner
Exogenetic (1/2 to Exogenous, dam of Super Ninety Nine) --> Palace Malice
Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Palace Malice
Heavenly Grace (o/o Havre de Grace) --> Gun Runner
Heavenly Love --> Gun Runner
Hope's Love (full to California Chrome) --> Gun Runner
Just Wicked --> Gun Runner
La Tia --> Palace Malice
Love and Pride --> Gun Runner
Malibu Prayer --> Gun Runner
Nieve (o/o November Snow) --> Real Solution AND Big Blue Kitten
Pure Clan --> Palace Malice
Quiet Business --> Hightail
Romacaca --> Big Blue Kitten
See Ya Signe (o/o Santa Teresita) --> Gun Runner
Silver Cub (dam of Noted and Quoted) --> Khozan
Sircat Sally --> Palace Malice
Southern Girl (1/2 to Mucho Macho Man) --> Palace Malice
Speed Succeeds (dam of Brilliant Speed) --> Gun Runner
Spice Island (dam of Ice Box) --> Gun Runner
Stonetastic --> Gun Runner
Time to Tap (full to Untapable) --> Gun Runner
Trip South (dam of Signalman) --> Khozan
Unbridled Betty (dam of Unbridled Command) --> Palace Malice
Untapable --> Gun Runner
Ana Luisa (BRZ) --> Palace Malice
Ballyhoo Kat (IRE) (o/o Sharp Lisa) --> St Patrick's Day
Caressing --> Gun Runner
Connie and Michael --> Gun Runner
Danceinthesunlight (dam of Moreno) --> Palace Malice
Dream Dancing --> Gun Runner
Exogenetic (1/2 to Exogenous, dam of Super Ninety Nine) --> Palace Malice
Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Palace Malice
Heavenly Grace (o/o Havre de Grace) --> Gun Runner
Heavenly Love --> Gun Runner
Hope's Love (full to California Chrome) --> Gun Runner
Just Wicked --> Gun Runner
La Tia --> Palace Malice
Love and Pride --> Gun Runner
Malibu Prayer --> Gun Runner
Nieve (o/o November Snow) --> Real Solution AND Big Blue Kitten
Pure Clan --> Palace Malice
Quiet Business --> Hightail
Romacaca --> Big Blue Kitten
See Ya Signe (o/o Santa Teresita) --> Gun Runner
Silver Cub (dam of Noted and Quoted) --> Khozan
Sircat Sally --> Palace Malice
Southern Girl (1/2 to Mucho Macho Man) --> Palace Malice
Speed Succeeds (dam of Brilliant Speed) --> Gun Runner
Spice Island (dam of Ice Box) --> Gun Runner
Stonetastic --> Gun Runner
Time to Tap (full to Untapable) --> Gun Runner
Trip South (dam of Signalman) --> Khozan
Unbridled Betty (dam of Unbridled Command) --> Palace Malice
Untapable --> Gun Runner
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Is there something going on with Distorted Humor? I don't see his name on these 2020 Matings lists very much, if at all.
I. know he's 27 years old this year so pensioning would certainly be no surprise, but he's still on Winstar's website, and I don't recall hearing that he'd been retired from stud duty.
Am. I missing something? It wouldn't be the first! time!
I. know he's 27 years old this year so pensioning would certainly be no surprise, but he's still on Winstar's website, and I don't recall hearing that he'd been retired from stud duty.
Am. I missing something? It wouldn't be the first! time!
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Avie's Empire (dam of Avie's Flatter, etc.) --> Tapit
Be Fair --> Gun Runner
Bella Rafaela (1/2 to Twirling Candy) --> Gun Runner
Beauty Parlor --> Quality Road
Calistoga --> Palace Malice
Carameaway --> West Coast
Coachwhip --> English Channel
Comedy (IRE) --> More Than Ready
Dancing --> American Pharoah AND Uncle Mo
Debase the Dollar (1/2 to La Coronel) --> Gun Runner
Elusive Diva --> Ransom the Moon
Embellishment (IRE) (o/o Sophisticat) --> Palace Malice
Emollient --> Quality Road
Empire Beauty (1/2 to Distorted Humor) --> Khozan
Factfull (1/2 to Bullsbay) --> Palace Malice
Heir Worthy (full to Warrior's Reward) --> Palace Malice
How Unusual --> Get Stormy
India Mantuana --> Palace Malice
Indian Miss (dam of Mitole) --> Into Mischief
Just Jenda --> Palace Malice
Kalahari Cat (dam of Black Onyx) --> Constitution
Kathballu --> Gun Runner
Kayce Ace (SP, full to Colonel John, dam of Comical) --> Into Mischief
Be Fair --> Gun Runner
Bella Rafaela (1/2 to Twirling Candy) --> Gun Runner
Beauty Parlor --> Quality Road
Calistoga --> Palace Malice
Carameaway --> West Coast
Coachwhip --> English Channel
Comedy (IRE) --> More Than Ready
Dancing --> American Pharoah AND Uncle Mo
Debase the Dollar (1/2 to La Coronel) --> Gun Runner
Elusive Diva --> Ransom the Moon
Embellishment (IRE) (o/o Sophisticat) --> Palace Malice
Emollient --> Quality Road
Empire Beauty (1/2 to Distorted Humor) --> Khozan
Factfull (1/2 to Bullsbay) --> Palace Malice
Heir Worthy (full to Warrior's Reward) --> Palace Malice
How Unusual --> Get Stormy
India Mantuana --> Palace Malice
Indian Miss (dam of Mitole) --> Into Mischief
Just Jenda --> Palace Malice
Kalahari Cat (dam of Black Onyx) --> Constitution
Kathballu --> Gun Runner
Kayce Ace (SP, full to Colonel John, dam of Comical) --> Into Mischief
- mariasmon
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La Manica (1/2 to English Channel) --> Real Solution
Lady Pamela (o/o Life Is Sweet) --> Twirling Candy
Love This Kitty (1/2 to Hootenanny) --> Sharp Azteca
Malibu Beach --> English Channel
Momentiempo (1/2 to Time and Motion) --> Gun Runner
Nebraska (o/o Honest Lady) --> Bal a Bali
No Use Denying (SW, dam of Perfect Alibi) --> Sky Mesa
Noble Fire (dam of La Verdad, etc.) --> Gun Runner
Quiet Temper --> Gun Runner
Receivership (dam of Palace) --> Gun Runner
Reina Maria (dam of Maximus Mischief) --> Into Mischief
Remember the Keg (1/2 to C.S. Silk) --> Ransom the Moon
Remit (MSW, dam of Finite) --> Gun Runner
Return to Grace (SW/GSP, o/o Golden Attraction) --> English Channel
Reve D'Amour (o/o Smolensk) --> Gun Runner
Rigorously (1/2 to Judy the Beauty) --> Palace Malice
Rose and Shine (dam of British Idiom) --> Tapit
Lady Pamela (o/o Life Is Sweet) --> Twirling Candy
Love This Kitty (1/2 to Hootenanny) --> Sharp Azteca
Malibu Beach --> English Channel
Momentiempo (1/2 to Time and Motion) --> Gun Runner
Nebraska (o/o Honest Lady) --> Bal a Bali
No Use Denying (SW, dam of Perfect Alibi) --> Sky Mesa
Noble Fire (dam of La Verdad, etc.) --> Gun Runner
Quiet Temper --> Gun Runner
Receivership (dam of Palace) --> Gun Runner
Reina Maria (dam of Maximus Mischief) --> Into Mischief
Remember the Keg (1/2 to C.S. Silk) --> Ransom the Moon
Remit (MSW, dam of Finite) --> Gun Runner
Return to Grace (SW/GSP, o/o Golden Attraction) --> English Channel
Reve D'Amour (o/o Smolensk) --> Gun Runner
Rigorously (1/2 to Judy the Beauty) --> Palace Malice
Rose and Shine (dam of British Idiom) --> Tapit
- mariasmon
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Selcourt --> Tapit
Sharp Sally (SW, 1/2 to Annals of Time) --> Vino Rosso
Sheba Queen (o/o Etoile Montante) --> Mendelssohn
Sky Gold (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Super Philly (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Stormy Allure (dam of Stormy Embrace) --> Palace Malice
Streamline --> Get Stormy
Sweet Promises (o/o Life is Sweet) --> Gun Runner
Tamboz (full to Tapizar) --> Gun Runner
Temptress (dam of Tenfold) --> Gun Runner
Touch of Grace (o/o Sealy Hill) --> Palace Malice
Trailblazer (3/4 to In Lingerie) --> Constitution
Two Dot Slew (dam of Next Shares) --> Classic Empire AND Get Stormy
Usrah (o/o Serena's Sister) --> Gun Runner
Verbena (1/2 to Sightseek, etc.) --> Union Rags
With Flying Colors --> Gun Runner
Sharp Sally (SW, 1/2 to Annals of Time) --> Vino Rosso
Sheba Queen (o/o Etoile Montante) --> Mendelssohn
Sky Gold (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Super Philly (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Stormy Allure (dam of Stormy Embrace) --> Palace Malice
Streamline --> Get Stormy
Sweet Promises (o/o Life is Sweet) --> Gun Runner
Tamboz (full to Tapizar) --> Gun Runner
Temptress (dam of Tenfold) --> Gun Runner
Touch of Grace (o/o Sealy Hill) --> Palace Malice
Trailblazer (3/4 to In Lingerie) --> Constitution
Two Dot Slew (dam of Next Shares) --> Classic Empire AND Get Stormy
Usrah (o/o Serena's Sister) --> Gun Runner
Verbena (1/2 to Sightseek, etc.) --> Union Rags
With Flying Colors --> Gun Runner
- Flanders
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Its possible Winstar limited his book more because of his age. Last year was the first year he covered under 100 mares since 2001. The mares in this thread are mares who either their owners announced who they were going to or Mariasmon and others have looked up. Also I feel like there is an age when stallions attract less and less big name mares, as breeders look for the next big stallion.Missbeholder wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:44 pm Is there something going on with Distorted Humor? I don't see his name on these 2020 Matings lists very much, if at all.
I. know he's 27 years old this year so pensioning would certainly be no surprise, but he's still on Winstar's website, and I don't recall hearing that he'd been retired from stud duty.
Am. I missing something? It wouldn't be the first! time!
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this made me laugh. I noticed a few other nice mares are being sent to Get Stormy -- is this because of Got Stormy's success, or has he always covered good mares? I hadn't noticed him as a sire until Got Stormy.
- mariasmon
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I think the quality of his mares is improving due to his success.
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Allegory (dam of Copper Bullet) --> Catholic Boy
American Angel (o/o Society Selection) --> Mohaymen
Awesome Gift (BRZ) (1/2 to Love and Pride) --> Palace Malice
Cleopatra's Charm (o/o Careless Jewel) --> Bernardini
Cowboytakemeaway (o/o Hot Dixie Chick) --> Hard Spun
Dancer (o/o Dance to Bristol) --> Street Sense
Dream Spinner (1/2 to Curalina) --> Frosted
Fashion World (GB) (o/o Icon Project) --> Hard Spun
Going Out (o/o Forever Together) --> Palace Malice
Lady Hester (o/o Questing) --> Palace Malice
Lady Leftennant (dam of Lady Ivanka) --> Omaha Beach
Lulu's Number (dam of Disco Partner) --> Gun Runner
Marcy Darcy (o/o Hot Dixie Chick) --> Flatter
Perfect Note (o/o Music Note) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Princesinha Julia (SW, o/o Love and Pride) --> Street Sense
Sex Symbol (o/o Icon Project) --> City of Light
Smart Together (o/o Forever Together) --> Arrogate AND Uncle Mo
Vulcan Rose (dam of Flameaway) --> Mendelssohn
American Angel (o/o Society Selection) --> Mohaymen
Awesome Gift (BRZ) (1/2 to Love and Pride) --> Palace Malice
Cleopatra's Charm (o/o Careless Jewel) --> Bernardini
Cowboytakemeaway (o/o Hot Dixie Chick) --> Hard Spun
Dancer (o/o Dance to Bristol) --> Street Sense
Dream Spinner (1/2 to Curalina) --> Frosted
Fashion World (GB) (o/o Icon Project) --> Hard Spun
Going Out (o/o Forever Together) --> Palace Malice
Lady Hester (o/o Questing) --> Palace Malice
Lady Leftennant (dam of Lady Ivanka) --> Omaha Beach
Lulu's Number (dam of Disco Partner) --> Gun Runner
Marcy Darcy (o/o Hot Dixie Chick) --> Flatter
Perfect Note (o/o Music Note) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Princesinha Julia (SW, o/o Love and Pride) --> Street Sense
Sex Symbol (o/o Icon Project) --> City of Light
Smart Together (o/o Forever Together) --> Arrogate AND Uncle Mo
Vulcan Rose (dam of Flameaway) --> Mendelssohn
- mariasmon
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Amarone (o/o Megahertz) --> Mitole
America's Starlet (full to American Gal) --> Into Mischief
American Model (1/2 to American Gal) --> Frosted
Back Flip (1/2 to Constellation) --> Constitution
Bourbonesque (dam of Mongolian Groom) --> War Front
Brutta Sorella (full to Carina Mia) --> Gun Runner
Enliven (o/o It's Tricky) --> Street Sense
Face It (1/2 to It's Tricky) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Made Great Again (o/o Book Review) --> Flatter
Purely Hot (dam of Eight Rings) --> Justify
Reunited (dam of Code of Honor) --> Quality Road
Sablah (dam of Takaful) --> Into Mischief
Sociable (dam of Keeper Ofthe Stars) --> Uncle Mo
Switch In Time (IRE) (o/o Switch) --> American Pharoah
Tap to My Lu (o/o Sweet Lulu) --> More Than Ready
Tiz Felicity (o/o Tiz Flirtatious) --> Palace Malice
America's Starlet (full to American Gal) --> Into Mischief
American Model (1/2 to American Gal) --> Frosted
Back Flip (1/2 to Constellation) --> Constitution
Bourbonesque (dam of Mongolian Groom) --> War Front
Brutta Sorella (full to Carina Mia) --> Gun Runner
Enliven (o/o It's Tricky) --> Street Sense
Face It (1/2 to It's Tricky) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Made Great Again (o/o Book Review) --> Flatter
Purely Hot (dam of Eight Rings) --> Justify
Reunited (dam of Code of Honor) --> Quality Road
Sablah (dam of Takaful) --> Into Mischief
Sociable (dam of Keeper Ofthe Stars) --> Uncle Mo
Switch In Time (IRE) (o/o Switch) --> American Pharoah
Tap to My Lu (o/o Sweet Lulu) --> More Than Ready
Tiz Felicity (o/o Tiz Flirtatious) --> Palace Malice
- mariasmon
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Afternoon (o/o Acoma) --> Blame
Amalfi Queen (o/o Lady of Fifty) --> Mitole
Ammannati (IRE) (o/o Acoma) --> Constitution
As Fair (o/o Informed Decision) --> Lookin at Lucky
Boyne Beauty (1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief
Crowned (o/o Mushka) --> Into Mischief
Eileen's Song (o/o Rutherienne) --> Gun Runner
Hot N Sour (o/o Egg Drop) --> Palace Malice
Hour Queen (dam of The Player) --> Alternation
Ifurhappynuknowit (o/o Mushka) --> Arrogate
Inflamed (dam of Mo Forza) --> Uncle Mo
Knotty Pine (GB) (o/o Vacare) --> Reload
Osare (SW, 1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief
Prado's Sweet Ride --> Justify
Quick Temper (dam of Cloud Computing) --> Justify
Randie's Legend (dam of Daddy is a Legend) --> Into Mischief
Scribbling Sarah (dam of Speech) --> West Coast
Shandra Smiles (dam of Smiling Tiger, She's a Tiger) --> Nyquist
Smokey's Love (dam of Fighting Mad) --> Union Rags
Surreptitious (o/o Hooh Why) --> Yoshida
Unrivaled Princess (full to Unique Bella) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Amalfi Queen (o/o Lady of Fifty) --> Mitole
Ammannati (IRE) (o/o Acoma) --> Constitution
As Fair (o/o Informed Decision) --> Lookin at Lucky
Boyne Beauty (1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief
Crowned (o/o Mushka) --> Into Mischief
Eileen's Song (o/o Rutherienne) --> Gun Runner
Hot N Sour (o/o Egg Drop) --> Palace Malice
Hour Queen (dam of The Player) --> Alternation
Ifurhappynuknowit (o/o Mushka) --> Arrogate
Inflamed (dam of Mo Forza) --> Uncle Mo
Knotty Pine (GB) (o/o Vacare) --> Reload
Osare (SW, 1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief
Prado's Sweet Ride --> Justify
Quick Temper (dam of Cloud Computing) --> Justify
Randie's Legend (dam of Daddy is a Legend) --> Into Mischief
Scribbling Sarah (dam of Speech) --> West Coast
Shandra Smiles (dam of Smiling Tiger, She's a Tiger) --> Nyquist
Smokey's Love (dam of Fighting Mad) --> Union Rags
Surreptitious (o/o Hooh Why) --> Yoshida
Unrivaled Princess (full to Unique Bella) --> Medaglia d'Oro