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The Breeders Cup link did not work for me- was Zenyatta really bred back to Candy Ride? Is there a way to verify? Thanks
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Squeaky wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:40 pm The Breeders Cup link did not work for me- was Zenyatta really bred back to Candy Ride? Is there a way to verify? Thanks
I promise, she was. I have no idea if she's in foal, but she was definitely bred.
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mariasmon wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:06 pm
Squeaky wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:40 pm The Breeders Cup link did not work for me- was Zenyatta really bred back to Candy Ride? Is there a way to verify? Thanks
I promise, she was. I have no idea if she's in foal, but she was definitely bred.
Well, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.

I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
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Missbeholder wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pm
mariasmon wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:06 pm
Squeaky wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:40 pm The Breeders Cup link did not work for me- was Zenyatta really bred back to Candy Ride? Is there a way to verify? Thanks
I promise, she was. I have no idea if she's in foal, but she was definitely bred.
Well, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.

I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
It's no secret that Ann Moss seems to prefer later foals and Zenyatta's offspring have all been brought along at a glacial pace by John Shirreffs, so having a June foal is probably not a concern for them. Zellda has been in his barn for, what, 8-9 months and is nowhere close to racing?
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mariasmon wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:16 pm
Missbeholder wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pm
mariasmon wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:06 pm

I promise, she was. I have no idea if she's in foal, but she was definitely bred.
Well, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.

I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
It's no secret that Ann Moss seems to prefer later foals and Zenyatta's offspring have all been brought along at a glacial pace by John Shirreffs, so having a June foal is probably not a concern for them. Zellda has been in his barn for, what, 8-9 months and is nowhere close to racing?
Do we want to make bets on when zellda will make a start?2021?2022? And will she have any better success than her brothers? All though if she doesn't take to racing, I'm guessing they'd make her a broodmare to keep zenyattas line going
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Missbeholder wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pm
mariasmon wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:06 pm
Squeaky wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:40 pm The Breeders Cup link did not work for me- was Zenyatta really bred back to Candy Ride? Is there a way to verify? Thanks
I promise, she was. I have no idea if she's in foal, but she was definitely bred.
Well, it appears that I'm not the only one who was a little stunned by this. I have just enough ignorance on all this that it never occurred to me that she would be bred back so late in the year.

I didn't mean to question the accuracy of what you posted, mariasmon. I so appreciate the work you do here. It just shocked me a bit, and I got a little flummoxed.
There's zero chance that any progeny of Zenyatta will race before Autumn of its three year old year, especially if they continue to send them to Sheriffs. Having a May or June foal doesn't matter at that point.

If Zellda ends up even starting this year, I'd wager they give her 2 or 3 starts to break her maiden before she gets retired. Unless she ends up being a superstar, but it seems like it's been a while since we've heard anything about her.
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Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Palace Malice
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Malibu Prayer --> Gun Runner

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Is there something going on with Distorted Humor? I don't see his name on these 2020 Matings lists very much, if at all.

I. know he's 27 years old this year so pensioning would certainly be no surprise, but he's still on Winstar's website, and I don't recall hearing that he'd been retired from stud duty.

Am. I missing something? It wouldn't be the first! time!
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Beauty Parlor --> Quality Road

Calistoga --> Palace Malice
Carameaway --> West Coast
Coachwhip --> English Channel
Comedy (IRE) --> More Than Ready

Dancing --> American Pharoah AND Uncle Mo
Debase the Dollar (1/2 to La Coronel) --> Gun Runner

Elusive Diva --> Ransom the Moon
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Emollient --> Quality Road
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Factfull (1/2 to Bullsbay) --> Palace Malice

Heir Worthy (full to Warrior's Reward) --> Palace Malice
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Nebraska (o/o Honest Lady) --> Bal a Bali
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Quiet Temper --> Gun Runner

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Sky Gold (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Super Philly (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Stormy Allure (dam of Stormy Embrace) --> Palace Malice
Streamline --> Get Stormy
Sweet Promises (o/o Life is Sweet) --> Gun Runner

Tamboz (full to Tapizar) --> Gun Runner
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Missbeholder wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:44 pm Is there something going on with Distorted Humor? I don't see his name on these 2020 Matings lists very much, if at all.

I. know he's 27 years old this year so pensioning would certainly be no surprise, but he's still on Winstar's website, and I don't recall hearing that he'd been retired from stud duty.

Am. I missing something? It wouldn't be the first! time!
Its possible Winstar limited his book more because of his age. Last year was the first year he covered under 100 mares since 2001. The mares in this thread are mares who either their owners announced who they were going to or Mariasmon and others have looked up. Also I feel like there is an age when stallions attract less and less big name mares, as breeders look for the next big stallion.
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mariasmon wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:17 pm
Sky Gold (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Super Philly (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
this made me laugh. I noticed a few other nice mares are being sent to Get Stormy -- is this because of Got Stormy's success, or has he always covered good mares? I hadn't noticed him as a sire until Got Stormy.
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KatieK101 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:32 pm
mariasmon wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:17 pm
Sky Gold (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
Super Philly (1/2 to Got Stormy) --> Get Stormy
this made me laugh. I noticed a few other nice mares are being sent to Get Stormy -- is this because of Got Stormy's success, or has he always covered good mares? I hadn't noticed him as a sire until Got Stormy.
I think the quality of his mares is improving due to his success.
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Dancer (o/o Dance to Bristol) --> Street Sense
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Fashion World (GB) (o/o Icon Project) --> Hard Spun

Going Out (o/o Forever Together) --> Palace Malice

Lady Hester (o/o Questing) --> Palace Malice
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Marcy Darcy (o/o Hot Dixie Chick) --> Flatter

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Sex Symbol (o/o Icon Project) --> City of Light
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Back Flip (1/2 to Constellation) --> Constitution
Bourbonesque (dam of Mongolian Groom) --> War Front
Brutta Sorella (full to Carina Mia) --> Gun Runner

Enliven (o/o It's Tricky) --> Street Sense

Face It (1/2 to It's Tricky) --> Medaglia d'Oro

Made Great Again (o/o Book Review) --> Flatter

Purely Hot (dam of Eight Rings) --> Justify

Reunited (dam of Code of Honor) --> Quality Road

Sablah (dam of Takaful) --> Into Mischief
Sociable (dam of Keeper Ofthe Stars) --> Uncle Mo
Switch In Time (IRE) (o/o Switch) --> American Pharoah

Tap to My Lu (o/o Sweet Lulu) --> More Than Ready
Tiz Felicity (o/o Tiz Flirtatious) --> Palace Malice
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Ammannati (IRE) (o/o Acoma) --> Constitution
As Fair (o/o Informed Decision) --> Lookin at Lucky

Boyne Beauty (1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief

Crowned (o/o Mushka) --> Into Mischief

Eileen's Song (o/o Rutherienne) --> Gun Runner

Hot N Sour (o/o Egg Drop) --> Palace Malice
Hour Queen (dam of The Player) --> Alternation

Ifurhappynuknowit (o/o Mushka) --> Arrogate
Inflamed (dam of Mo Forza) --> Uncle Mo

Knotty Pine (GB) (o/o Vacare) --> Reload

Osare (SW, 1/2 to Arrogate) --> Into Mischief

Prado's Sweet Ride --> Justify

Quick Temper (dam of Cloud Computing) --> Justify

Randie's Legend (dam of Daddy is a Legend) --> Into Mischief

Scribbling Sarah (dam of Speech) --> West Coast
Shandra Smiles (dam of Smiling Tiger, She's a Tiger) --> Nyquist
Smokey's Love (dam of Fighting Mad) --> Union Rags
Surreptitious (o/o Hooh Why) --> Yoshida

Unrivaled Princess (full to Unique Bella) --> Medaglia d'Oro
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