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PONYRCR wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:36 pm
sweettalk wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:09 am
mariasmon wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm Steelin' (dam of Shanghai Bobby) --> Into Mischief
someone creative needs to be in charge of naming this one
Petty Theft

That's a good one too! Or Misdemeanor? 8-)
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mariasmon wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:12 pm
KatieK101 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:54 pm Has it been confirmed that Littleprincessemma is going back to him?
FWIW, I thought a lot fewer of the mares from my list were going to Tapit than usual. The tide seems to be shifting toward Into Mischief, Curlin and younger prospects like Justify. We'll see if Justify justifies the mares he's getting.
Now that I've gone back and looked, I have to agree with you; Into Mischief is drawing a very impressive book. I think what I meant, is I'm tired of seeing certain mares go back to Tapit... Littleprincessemma is the first that came to mind, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that a few of the other mares I had in mind have actually visited more stallions than I thought.
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If the mare is owned by Lyon, she will be going to Tapit, rest assured (unless her name is American Gal).
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:50 am

Even Mandy Pope is branching out from using Tapit on all her big mares.
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:39 pm

mariasmon wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:50 am Even Mandy Pope is branching out from using Tapit on all her big mares.
What about Havre de Grace? I can't recall who she's been bred to this year, but I know that advisors were pushing her towards Galileo, but Mandy decided against it because she wanted Havre de Grace in her back yard (her words).
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KatieK101 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:39 pm
mariasmon wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:50 am Even Mandy Pope is branching out from using Tapit on all her big mares.
What about Havre de Grace? I can't recall who she's been bred to this year, but I know that advisors were pushing her towards Galileo, but Mandy decided against it because she wanted Havre de Grace in her back yard (her words).
She’s in foal to Justify for next year
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:02 am

A Star Is Born (IRE) (full to Rip Van Winkle, dam of Fleet Review) --> American Pharoah
A Z Warrior --> Justify
Abba Gold (dam of Kathmanblu, Kathballu) --> Lotsa Mischief
Abbey Street (1/2 to Wicked Strong) --> Yoshida
Above Perfection (dam of Always Dreaming, Hot Dixie Chick) --> Justify
Absinthe Minded --> Arrogate
Abtasaamah (1/2 to Midshipman, Fast Cookie) --> Audible
Acrobatique (1/2 to Covfefe) --> American Pharoah
Adornment (1/2 to Bluegrass Cat) --> Speightstown
Afleet Alexsis (full to Afleet Alex) --> Uncle Mo
Afleet Maggi (dam of Dream Tree) --> American Pharoah
Afleeting Lady --> Uncle Mo
Afleeting Lisa (1/2 to Wise Dan) --> Arrogate
African Jade (dam of Lord Nelson) --> Justify
Agreeable Miss (o/o Sweet and Ready) --> Air Force Blue
Ajfan (2nd dam is Precious Kitten) --> Qurbaan
Al Andaleeb (o/o Ajina) --> More Than Ready
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All in With Aces (dam of Hard Aces) --> Speightstown
Allegheny Angel (o/o Awesome Humor) --> Justify
Aloof (IRE) --> Justify
Always a Princess --> Audible
Always On My Mind (1/2 to Without Parole, Tamarkuz) --> Speightstown
Amazing Belle (1/2 to Unrivaled Belle) --> Constitution
American Cleopatra --> Justify
Amour D'Ete (1/2 to Speightstown, full to Irap) --> Constitution
Anabaa's Creation (IRE) (SW/G1P, 1/2 to the dam of Sistercharlie, Sottsass) --> Mendelssohn
Andina (IRE) --> Uncle Mo
Angry Ocean (1/2 to Princess Violet) --> Collected
Antipathy (G3W/G1P, 1/2 to Scat Daddy) --> American Pharoah
Antonia Autumn --> American Pharoah
Anyhow (dam of Noble Bird) --> Omaha Beach
Appealing Zophie --> Justify
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Apt (1/2 to Blame) --> Justify
Arrostos (o/o Belle Gallantey) --> Speightstown
Aspening (1/2 to Diversy Harbor, Keertana, Snow Top Mountain) --> Constitution
August Snow (1/2 to Executiveprivilege, Hoppertunity) --> Always Dreaming
Auntie Joy --> American Pharoah
Autumnal (dam of Rushing Fall) --> More Than Ready
Avena (o/o Oatsee) --> American Pharoah
Avila Road (full to Quality Road) --> American Pharoah
Awesome Baby --> Uncle Mo
Ayers Rock (full to Verrazano) --> Constitution
Azm (o/o Marketing Mix) --> Speightstown
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Baby Eclair (o/o Eclair de Lune) --> Goldencents
Baffling (1/2 to Constitution) --> More Than Ready
Bail Me Out (o/o Bail Out Becky) --> Distorted Humor
Bail Out Kitten (o/o Bail Out Becky) --> Classic Empire
Baroness Richter (IRE) --> American Pharoah
Bashful Bertie (dam of Beach Patrol) --> Into Mischief
Beauty Star (o/o Beautiful Pleasure) --> Flameaway
Becky Loves Silver (o/o Bail Out Becky) --> Outwork
Bedford Land --> Into Mischief
Believe You Can --> American Pharoah
Bella Jolie (dam of Runhappy) --> Speightstown
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Belle Gallantey --> Uncle Mo
Belle Hill (o/o Sealy Hill) --> Into Mischief
Belle Watling (dam of Land Over Sea, War Story) --> Into Mischief
Bending Strings --> Vino Rosso
Benner Island --> Constitution
Bernadiva (o/o Evening Jewel) --> Arrogate
Bernadreamy (o/o Dream Empress) --> Munnings
Betsy Ross (IRE) (o/o Sea Siren) --> American Pharoah
Betterbetterbetter (IRE) --> Justify
Birdatthewire --> Into Mischief
Black Tunic (1/2 to Big Brown) --> Outwork
Blenheim Palace (o/o Pleasant Home) --> Omaha Beach
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:17 pm

Dayatthespa (G1 winner, BC champion) ---> More Than Ready
Ava Malone (o/o Dayatthespa) ----> Omaha Beach
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:37 pm

Blingismything --> Tapit
Blossom Special (IRE) (1/2 to Materiality, My Miss Sophia) --> American Pharoah
Blossomed (dam of Sippican Harbor) --> Justify
Boat's Ghost (dam of Finnegans Wake) --> Constitution
Boca Inc (ARG) --> Tapit
Bodaciousness (1/2 to The Factor) --> Mitole
Bonita Mia (1/2 to Carina Mia) --> Lord Nelson
Border Dispute (dam of Combatant, Long Lashes) --> Mendelssohn
Bow Bells (o/o Marylebone) --> Justify
Brushed By a Star --> Constitution
Bryan's Jewel --> Constitution
Bubbles and Babies (o/o Dream Empress) --> Mitole
Butterflies (IRE) (1/2 to Giant's Causeway) --> Justify
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Caledonia Road --> Justify
Call Me Fancy (o/o Prissy) --> Tiznow
Calm Water (1/2 to Emollient, etc.) --> Constitution
Carmel Beauty (full to Arravale) --> Omaha Beach
Carnival Kitten (dam of Channel Cat) --> Speightstown
Caroline Thomas --> American Pharoah
Cash Queen (1/2 to Avenge) --> American Freedom
Catch My Drift --> Constitution
Catch the Flag (o/o Catch the Ring) --> Vino Rosso
Causewaysfly (1/2 to Tapitsfly) --> Mendelssohn
Champagne Courage (full to Got Lucky) --> More Than Ready
Channel Lady --> Mendelssohn
Charge of Angels (1/2 to Bluegrass Cat) --> Speightstown
Charming --> Justify
Charming N Lovable (dam of Fault) --> American Pharoah
Cherry Hinton (GB) --> Justify
Chimayo (dam of Secret Spice) --> Uncle Mo
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Chocolate Pop (dam of Airoforce) --> Uncle Mo
Chuckling (o/o Pleasant Home) --> More Than Ready
Criminologist --> Practical Joke
City Sister --> Munnings
Claire de Lune (IRE) (GSP, 1/2 to Moonstone) --> Uncle Mo
Clemmie (IRE) --> Justify
Coffee Clique --> Uncle Mo
Coin Broker (IRE) (o/o Cash Run) --> Uncle Mo
Compelled --> Justify
Conquering (o/o Take Charge Lady) --> Into Mischief
Conquest (IRE) (full to Minding) --> Uncle Mo
Conquest Lil Miss (1/2 to My Conquestadory) --> Always Dreaming
Court Appeal (1/2 to Mani Bhavan, etc.) --> Karakontie
Cozze Up Lady --> Constitution
Cristina's Journey --> Audible
Crocus Hill (o/o Vacare) --> Yoshida
Crowley's Law (GB) --> More Than Ready
Cry and Catch Me --> Justify
Curlin's Fox --> Uncle Mo
Curlylocks (IRE) (full to Churchill, Clemmie) --> Justify
Curvy (GB) --> Justify
Cut in Stone (1/2 to Oxbow) --> Justify
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D'wildcat Speed (dam of Lady Aurelia) --> Justify
Daisy Mason (1/2 to Beholder, Into Mischief) --> Uncle Mo
Dance Quietly --> Justify
Dance With Another (IRE) (o/o Quarter Moon) --> Justify
Dance With Kitten (full to Divisidero) --> Yoshida
Davida (1/2 to Bricks and Mortar) --> Audible
Dayatthespa --> More Than Ready
Decorator (1/2 to No Matter What, etc.) --> Arrogate
Defy Gravity (1/2 to Callback) --> Justify
Deliteful Diva (1/2 to Midnight Bisou) --> Munnings
Designer Legs --> Justify
Devil By Design (GSW, dam of Competitionofideas) --> Justify
Devine Actress (dam of Oscar Performance, etc.) --> Uncle Mo
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Diamond Dona (o/o Maryfield) --> Laoban
Diana's Thrill (full to My Conquestadory) --> Constitution
Discreet Chat (dam of Discreet Lover) --> Omaha Beach
Diva's Tribute (dam of Spectator) --> Cat Burglar
Dona Bruja (ARG) --> Uncle Mo
Dramatically (o/o Wonder of Wonders) --> Justify
Dream Awhile --> American Pharoah
Dream of Summer --> Justify
Dreaming of Liz --> Tapwrit
Dreaming of You (1/2 to Justwhistledixie) --> Justify
Dreamologist --> American Pharoah
Duke's Dream (full to Sweet Lulu) --> Tapit
Durga Devi (IRE) (1/2 to Wrote) --> Munnings
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:58 pm

It’s amazing how the same sires keep cropping up: American Pharoah, Justify, Tapit, Into Mischief and to some degree Uncle Mo....Constitution is up there also. I realize American Pharoah has 9 SW, but so many of them are grass, and American racing is so geared for dirt. Has he really justified his being bred to so many wonderful mares? What confuses me is his the AWD for his offspring is 7.98, higher than Honor Codes at 7.59, and yet I was going to say that his offspring seem to be mainly sprinters or middle distance types,
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:59 pm

Eblouissante --> More Than Ready
Eden's Moon --> More Than Ready
Elaine's Cat (o/o Unbridled Elaine) --> Frosted
Elle Sueno (o/o Mi Sueno) --> Justify
Elusive Bird (o/o Bird Town) --> Karakontie
Elusive Collection --> Hard Spun
Emily B (1/2 to Awesome Maria) --> Into Mischief
Emma's Encore --> Uncle Mo
Empathy N Respect (o/o Better Than Honour) --> Munnings
Empress Maker (o/o Ticker Tape) --> Constitution
Empress of Midway --> Practical Joke
Enchanting Lady --> Uncle Mo
Enchanting Lisa (1/2 to Wise Dan) --> Tapit
End Times (o/o Last Full Measure) --> Always Dreaming
Enrichment (full to Better Lucky) --> Uncle Mo
Entwine (o/o Flute, dam of Qabala) --> Justify
Essentia (1/2 to Big Brown) --> Carpe Diem
Expanse (dam of Embellish the Lace, Afleet Express) --> Always Dreaming
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:12 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:58 pm It’s amazing how the same sires keep cropping up: American Pharoah, Justify, Tapit, Into Mischief and to some degree Uncle Mo....Constitution is up there also. I realize American Pharoah has 9 SW, but so many of them are grass, and American racing is so geared for dirt. Has he really justified his being bred to so many wonderful mares? What confuses me is his the AWD for his offspring is 7.98, higher than Honor Codes at 7.59, and yet I was going to say that his offspring seem to be mainly sprinters or middle distance types,
Just keep in mind that a lot of this is about what sells or is expected to sell well in a year or 2. And that is more about perception and less about cold, hard facts and statistics.
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