The rise of Sunday Silence

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tachyon
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In Brazil,

Mais Que Bonita(BRZ), 2016F. Agnes Gold(JPN) x Feia Que Doi(BRZ) by Scat Daddy(USA), won the G1 Clásico Henrique Possolo - first leg of Triple Crown for Fillies, at Gavea on Feb 9th 2020.
She became Agnes Gold's sixth G1 winner.

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVicvrNi7JQ
Ist. Mais Que Bonita (Agnes Gold)
2nd. Tanganyka (Midshipman)
3rd. Intuição (Wild Event)
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In Brazil,

Mais Que Bonita(BRZ), 2016F. Agnes Gold(JPN) x Feia Que Doi(BRZ) by Scat Daddy(USA), won the G1 Grande Premio Diana (Brazilian Oaks) - second leg of the Triple Crown for Fillies - 2000m turf at Gavea on March 8th 2020. :D :D
7-4-1-1.

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU4COfc ... e=emb_logo
1st. Mais Que Bonita(BRZ) (Agnes Gold)
2nd. Helquis(BRZ) (Wild Event )
3rd. Tanganyka(BRZ) (Midshipman )

https://www.jcb.com.br/home/noticias/24 ... ice-coroa/
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:10 pm

Looks like a real runner. Do you know when the third leg is?
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Starine wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:10 pm Looks like a real runner. Do you know when the third leg is?
GP Zelia Gonzaga Peixoto de Castro (G1), 2400m turf at Gavea, will be run on April 5th. 8-)
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Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:44 am

Lucky Lilac(JPN), 2015M. Orfevre(JPN) x Lilacs and Lace(USA) by Flower Alley(USA), scored her third G1 Victory beating the boys under Mirco Demuro in the Osaka Hai 2000m turf at Hanshin on April 5th 2020. :D :D :D

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlytbcqTAfU
1st 5 Lucky Lilac(JPN) [Orfevre(JPN) x Lilacs and Lace(USA) by Flower Alley(USA] M5 55 01:58.4
2nd 12 Chrono Genesis(JPN) [Bago(FR) x Chronologist(JPN) by Kurofune(USA)] F4 55 01:58.4 NK
3rd 8 Danon Kingly(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x My Goodness(USA) by Storm Cat(USA)] C4 57 01:58.5 NK
4th 11 Cadenas(JPN) H6 57 01:58.6 3/4
5th 4 Wagnerian(JPN) H5 57 01:58.8 1 1/4
6th 10 Jinambo(JPN) H5 57 01:58.9 3/4
7th 3 Blast Onepiece(JPN) H5 57 01:59.0 1/2
8th 6 Red Genial(JPN) C4 57 01:59.1 3/4
9th 7 Stay Foolish(JPN) H5 57 01:59.4 1 1/2
10th 2 Satono Saltus(JPN) H5 57 01:59.4 NS
11th 9 Makahiki(JPN) H7 57 01:59.5 3/4
12th 1 Lord My Way(JPN) C4 57 02:00.3 5

Lucky Lilac(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001208248/
15-6-4-2
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Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:52 pm

So if that race was run April 5th, I’m assuming Japan has opened up the race tracks again to fans. Looking at the last photo lots of people around in the foreground and if you enlarge the picture quit a crowd in the background.
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As far as I have seen, JRA has *not* reopened tracks to the general public. However, the ownership groups can be quite extensive... I was surprised at the number of people I saw, too.

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https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20 ... sp/067000c
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- The Japan Racing Association said Thursday it will extend its closed-door, audience-free operation of events through April 19.

The three upcoming Grade One events, Osaka Hai, scheduled for Sunday, Oka-sho, scheduled for April 12, and Satsuki-sho, scheduled for April 19, will be among the races that will be held without spectators.
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-- from japanracing.jp

''Matured Lucky Lilac Finishes Strongly to Win Osaka Hai''
http://japanracing.jp/_news2020/200405.html

-- from racingpost

''Arc could be an option for Lucky Lilac after snug Osaka Hai triumph''
https://www.racingpost.com/news/arc-cou ... mph/431050
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am

Oka Sho heroine Daring Tact(JPN), 2017F. Epiphaneia(JPN) x Daring Bird(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), is the very first G1 winner to be inbred to Sunday Silence(USA).
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https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001236599/pedigree/
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:11 pm

tachyon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am Oka Sho heroine Daring Tact(JPN), 2017F. Epiphaneia(JPN) x Daring Bird(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), is the very first G1 winner to be inbred to Sunday Silence(USA).
Sunday Silence has been so influential that I almost find that hard to believe. :shock:
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Starine wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:11 pm
tachyon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am Oka Sho heroine Daring Tact(JPN), 2017F. Epiphaneia(JPN) x Daring Bird(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), is the very first G1 winner to be inbred to Sunday Silence(USA).
Sunday Silence has been so influential that I almost find that hard to believe. :shock:
Its actually quite amazing. If you do a truenicks of Sunday Silence/sons/grandsons over Sunday Silence/sons/grandson line mares its never been done. If that was US/Europe you know it'd be tried like 3000 times.
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Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:32 pm

Flanders wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:14 pm
Starine wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:11 pm
tachyon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am Oka Sho heroine Daring Tact(JPN), 2017F. Epiphaneia(JPN) x Daring Bird(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), is the very first G1 winner to be inbred to Sunday Silence(USA).
Sunday Silence has been so influential that I almost find that hard to believe. :shock:
Its actually quite amazing. If you do a truenicks of Sunday Silence/sons/grandsons over Sunday Silence/sons/grandson line mares its never been done. If that was US/Europe you know it'd be tried like 3000 times.
Thank you for your comments, Starine and Flanders. :D
I thought this could be an interesting topic.

There can be several reasons.
I suspect that the massive inflows of quality broodmares from abroad after the passing of Sunday Silence in 2002 made Japanese top breeders reluctant to try inbreeding to that great stallion in close patters like 2 x 3 or 3 x 3.
It also looks like they were not big fans of in inbreeding from way back.
But it becomes easier to try 3 x 4 or 4 x 4 as time goes by.
I believe that Daring Tact's success is just the beginning.
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Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:33 pm

tachyon wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:32 pm I suspect that the massive inflows of quality broodmares from abroad after the passing of Sunday Silence in 2002 made Japanese top breeders reluctant to try inbreeding to that great stallion in close patters like 2 x 3 or 3 x 3.
It also looks like they were not big fans of in inbreeding from way back.
But it becomes easier to try 3 x 4 or 4 x 4 as time goes by.
I believe that Daring Tact's success is just the beginning.
That's very plausible; thank you for the explanation!
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Flanders wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:14 pm
Starine wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:11 pm
tachyon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am Oka Sho heroine Daring Tact(JPN), 2017F. Epiphaneia(JPN) x Daring Bird(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), is the very first G1 winner to be inbred to Sunday Silence(USA).
Sunday Silence has been so influential that I almost find that hard to believe. :shock:
Its actually quite amazing. If you do a truenicks of Sunday Silence/sons/grandsons over Sunday Silence/sons/grandson line mares its never been done. If that was US/Europe you know it'd be tried like 3000 times.
LOL @ your sentence that I bolded, because it is true. Look at what Great Britain and Ireland do with Sadler's Wells and Danzig lines in particular. The breeding programs do produce some magnificent runners but at the same time I think the studs are finally realizing they have to branch out. Hopefully Study of Man and Saxon Warrior are just the beginning.
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World's highest earning jumper Oju Chosan(JPN), 2011H. Stay Gold(JPN) x Shadow Silhouette(JPN) by Symboli Kris S(USA), renewed his own record to register his fifth back-to-back Jump-G1 Nakayama Grand Jump victory and 13th consecutive graded steeplechase title on April 18th 2020.

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-- from racingpost
''Historic fifth Grand Jump for world's highest earning jumper Oju Chosan''
https://www.racingpost.com/news/histori ... san/431896

-- JRA review
http://japanracing.jp/_news2020/200418-02.html
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Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:23 am

Unbeaten Contrail(JPN), 2017C. Deep Impact(JPN) x Rhodochrosite(USA) by Unbridled's Song(USA), won the G1 Satsuki Sho (Japanese 2000 Guineas) 2000m turf at Nakayama under Yuichi Fukunaga edging out Salios(JPN) in an epic finish on April 19th 2020.

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-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLh1cExyyQs
1st 1 Contrail(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Rhodochrosite(USA) by Unbridled's Song(USA)] C3 57 02:00.7
2nd 7 Salios(JPN) [Heart's Cry(JPN) x Salomina(GER) by Lomitas(GER)] C3 57 02:00.8 1/2
3rd 16 Galore Creek(JPN) [Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) x Gold Relic(USA) by Kingmambo(USA)] C3 57 02:01.4 3 1/2
4th 8 Win Carnelian(JPN) C3 57 02:01.6 1 1/4
5th 5 Satono Flag(JPN) C3 57 02:01.8 1 1/4
6th 13 Darlington Hall(GB) C3 57 02:01.8 NK
7th 3 Cortesia(JPN) C3 57 02:01.9 1/2
8th 17 Weltreisende(JPN) C3 57 02:01.9 NS
9th 9 Black Hole(JPN) C3 57 02:02.1 1 1/4
10th 6 Deep Bond(JPN) C3 57 02:02.1 HD
11th 2 L'Excellence(JPN) C3 57 02:02.1 HD
12th 10 American Seed(USA) C3 57 02:02.2 NK
13th 12 My Rhapsody(JPN) C3 57 02:02.2 HD
14th 18 Bitterender(JPN) C3 57 02:02.4 1 1/4
15th 15 Rhinebeck(JPN) C3 57 02:02.4 NK
16th 11 Crystal Black(JPN) C3 57 02:02.5 3/4
17th 14 Chimera Verite(JPN) C3 57 02:02.6 NK
18th 4 Tempin(JPN) C3 57 02:03.3 4

-- JRA review
''Unbeaten Race Favorite Contrail Claims This Year’s Satsuki Sho (Japanese 2000 Guineas) Title''
http://japanracing.jp/_news2020/pdf/200419.pdf

-- Contrail(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001237042/
4-4-0-0
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Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:42 pm

Count me in as a big fan of Contrail as well as runner-up Salios. 8-)
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Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:53 pm

Starine wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:42 pm Count me in as a big fan of Contrail as well as runner-up Salios. 8-)
Let's hope both colts will end up as the best sons of their sires, respectively. ;)
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Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:21 pm

Bloodlines Presented By Mill Ridge Farm: The Global Reach Of Contrail’s Japanese Pedigree
https://www.paulickreport.com/features/ ... -pedigree/

Nothing new here but I thought I'd share anyway.
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:28 pm

Starine wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:21 pm Bloodlines Presented By Mill Ridge Farm: The Global Reach Of Contrail’s Japanese Pedigree
https://www.paulickreport.com/features/ ... -pedigree/

Nothing new here but I thought I'd share anyway.
Interesting side note in that article was the mention that Sunday Silence officially died of heart failure after receiving a large dose of painkiller. I knew that laminitis had been his downfall, but the phrasing of that bit about the painkiller was something that I hadn't heard before.
weeeeeeeee
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