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katmandu
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:50 am

Pernicious sickness also means deadly sickness (pernicious = deadly), it may have nothing to do with an equine version (has it been documented?) of pernicious anemia as described. Which isn't to say if there is some kind of autoimmune disorder involving platelet development in this line of horses (Summer Bird's example), he couldn't have RBC issues since platelets are required for clotting (or some other more complex relationship). I wonder what the basis for calling his condition "not genetic" was? And the nature of Decarchy's autoimmune disorder? With Decarchy, It's easy to think AI disorder=steroids=laminitis, but laminitis can be such a trigger happy kind of thing, it's unfortunately an all too common demise for many horses.
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:00 pm

Teruya Yoshida (Shadai Farm) commented on Bricks and Mortar;

''I think that Brick and Mortar is a gift from heaven. I had not imagined that he would be awarded the Eclipse Horse of the Year when I decided to purchase him. Like Sunday Silence, BaM is from Stone Farm. And he has the same height of 161 centimeter (= 15.8 hand) as Sunday Silence. I feel that something is connected. I am very grateful that I could introduce such a great horse when we have lost Deep Impact and King Kamehameha. We are sending more than 40 mares to BaM from Shadai Farm."

source: https://race.sanspo.com/smp/keiba/news/ ... 002-s.html
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:54 pm

What lovely sentiments from Mr. Yoshida. I'm very glad the horse went to Japan as he would have never been fully appreciated here in the States. Anyway, I hope he continues to reward Mr. Yoshida's for his faith in him. It would be a wonderful story for Bricks and Mortar to become a leading sire after the loss of Deep Impact and King Kamehameha, and I hope he gets excellent support from outside breeders as well.
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:13 am

We also lost B&M's sire, the great Giant's Causeway, pretty recently. GC deserves to have a good sire son from one of his last crops.
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:15 am

via twitter - Orfevre (JPN) is said to have a benign tumor on his left fore (just at elbow-height in the photo), no surgery planned atm "considering the character of Orfevre" :lol:

photo is from January 23rd
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:20 am

He is so gorgeous. Hope the growth is really manageable.
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:32 am

Ice Box moves to Pennsylvania
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... nsylvania/
He had only averaged 3 mares a year the past 3 years. Truly surprised he had remained in Kentucky as long as he did after only siring 2 stakes winners.
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Starine wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:54 pm What lovely sentiments from Mr. Yoshida. I'm very glad the horse went to Japan as he would have never been fully appreciated here in the States.
What stallions are appreciated here in the states anymore other than small number who become commercially successful? For example, take a look at Constitution, the 2019 #2 freshman sire. He is by Tapit out of a mare with a decent, but not elite pedigree. In sales terms, Constitution's offspring were not selling particularly well. The difference with him vs. other well-known stallions who were sold overseas is that his owners didn't give up on him before his first crop reached the races. Or perhaps they didn't get big offers from overseas. In any event, he came very close to being the #1 freshman sire of 2019.

--> In his first season, Constitution was bred to 172 mares resulting in 126 foals (73%) and 123 2-year-olds in 2019 (72% of mares bred).
--> Constitution's 2018 yearling average sale price was only $76,970.
--> Of his 2-year-olds, 65 ran (53%) and 27 won (42% of his runners).
--> There were 6 repeat winners (9%).
--> He had 9 black type stakes horses (13% of his runners).
--> He had 5 stakes winners (8% of his runners) and 4 Graded stakes winners (6%).
--> In 2019 Constitution's 2-year-olds won $2,168,422. He finished second to American Pharoah only because AP's son, Four Wheel Drive, won the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint.
--> For comparison, in 2019 American Pharoah had 162 2-year-olds and 72 runners, 5 repeat winners, 4 black type winners, and 3 graded stakes winners.
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Diver52 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:20 am He is so gorgeous. Hope the growth is really manageable.
The tweet had photos from early fall for comparison, and the size seems consistent. I'm sure they're going to watch it very closely and won't hesitate to intervene surgically if it seems necessary.
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Ridan_Remembered wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:19 pm
Starine wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:54 pm What lovely sentiments from Mr. Yoshida. I'm very glad the horse went to Japan as he would have never been fully appreciated here in the States.
What stallions are appreciated here in the states anymore other than small number who become commercially successful? For example, take a look at Constitution, the 2019 #2 freshman sire. He is by Tapit out of a mare with a decent, but not elite pedigree. In sales terms, Constitution's offspring were not selling particularly well. The difference with him vs. other well-known stallions who were sold overseas is that his owners didn't give up on him before his first crop reached the races. Or perhaps they didn't get big offers from overseas. In any event, he came very close to being the #1 freshman sire of 2019.

--> In his first season, Constitution was bred to 172 mares resulting in 126 foals (73%) and 123 2-year-olds in 2019 (72% of mares bred).
--> Constitution's 2018 yearling average sale price was only $76,970.
--> Of his 2-year-olds, 65 ran (53%) and 27 won (42% of his runners).
--> There were 6 repeat winners (9%).
--> He had 9 black type stakes horses (13% of his runners).
--> He had 5 stakes winners (8% of his runners) and 4 Graded stakes winners (6%).
--> In 2019 Constitution's 2-year-olds won $2,168,422. He finished second to American Pharoah only because AP's son, Four Wheel Drive, won the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint.
--> For comparison, in 2019 American Pharoah had 162 2-year-olds and 72 runners, 5 repeat winners, 4 black type winners, and 3 graded stakes winners.
Good grief. All I was saying that a stallion whose greatest successes were on the turf would be more popular with breeders in Japan than here in the States. :?
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Starine wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Ridan_Remembered wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:19 pm
Starine wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:54 pm What lovely sentiments from Mr. Yoshida. I'm very glad the horse went to Japan as he would have never been fully appreciated here in the States.
What stallions are appreciated here in the states anymore other than small number who become commercially successful? For example, take a look at Constitution, the 2019 #2 freshman sire. He is by Tapit out of a mare with a decent, but not elite pedigree. In sales terms, Constitution's offspring were not selling particularly well. The difference with him vs. other well-known stallions who were sold overseas is that his owners didn't give up on him before his first crop reached the races. Or perhaps they didn't get big offers from overseas. In any event, he came very close to being the #1 freshman sire of 2019.

--> In his first season, Constitution was bred to 172 mares resulting in 126 foals (73%) and 123 2-year-olds in 2019 (72% of mares bred).
--> Constitution's 2018 yearling average sale price was only $76,970.
--> Of his 2-year-olds, 65 ran (53%) and 27 won (42% of his runners).
--> There were 6 repeat winners (9%).
--> He had 9 black type stakes horses (13% of his runners).
--> He had 5 stakes winners (8% of his runners) and 4 Graded stakes winners (6%).
--> In 2019 Constitution's 2-year-olds won $2,168,422. He finished second to American Pharoah only because AP's son, Four Wheel Drive, won the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint.
--> For comparison, in 2019 American Pharoah had 162 2-year-olds and 72 runners, 5 repeat winners, 4 black type winners, and 3 graded stakes winners.
Good grief. All I was saying that a stallion whose greatest successes were on the turf would be more popular with breeders in Japan than here in the States. :?
And all I did was react to your statement by asking a question, "What stallions are appreciated here in the states anymore other than small number who become commercially successful?" It's a legitimate question . I used Constitution as an example of a stallion who could very easily have gone overseas based on his sales results before his first crop ran.
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Omaha Beach has arrived at spendthrift..pics on the farm Facebook page
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Tachyon, I have a question.

Testa Matta is Tapit's highest earner, from his first crop actually. He raced exclusively in Japan and won two Grade 1s on dirt, a G2, and a G3.

I know that dirt is not as highly regarded as turf in Japan, but I am confused as to why he retired directly to Korea instead of starting out in Japan. He would have retired when Tapit was really starting to get going as a sire.
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Mylute wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:10 pm Tachyon, I have a question.

Testa Matta is Tapit's highest earner, from his first crop actually. He raced exclusively in Japan and won two Grade 1s on dirt, a G2, and a G3.

I know that dirt is not as highly regarded as turf in Japan, but I am confused as to why he retired directly to Korea instead of starting out in Japan. He would have retired when Tapit was really starting to get going as a sire.
Obviously not Tachyon but I don't think he did enough for there to be interest in standing him in Japan. He won his only G1 at age 6 and raced through age 8. South Korea probably offered more than they could hope to get in a stud deal to stand in Japan. His female family also looks kind of weak, at least close up. I couldn't do really in depth looking because his pedigree is severely messed up on pedigreequery and I didn't feel like fixing it.
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Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:14 pm

Chrome arrived at Arrow Stud this evening (technically, it's morning in Japan :lol: )... more photos at the link.

via https://twitter.com/pakapakakobo/status ... 3188020224

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short vid clip here: https://twitter.com/JS_CompanyJP/status ... 0604722176

and more: https://twitter.com/pakapakakobo/status ... 5465573377

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Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:53 pm

Lurkey McLurker, thanks very much for posting those photos and the video link of Chrome's arrival at Arrow Stud. I also saw them on Chrome's several Facebook pages, but it's a treat to seem them here also. People already want to know where to buy those jackets, if it's even possible for the public to buy them. Chrome is a rockstar wherever he goes.

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Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:22 am

So the jackets were made custom for the grooms at Arrow Stud - it was their idea and they got them made for themselves, they aren't available for sale. (At least not YET... 8-) but given the JRA reluctance to ship any merch overseas I wouldn't get your hopes up, alas :( )

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No the tweet says a few of the guys got together and designed it for Chrome’s arrival. The stud isn’t selling them. Most of the cool jackets are personally made or designed by and fit people invoked with the horses or stable. Thus no place to buy then. Just a heads up.
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:45 am

There are ways to get things from Japan, a little complicated but it can be done, as my sons do it all the time for their collectibles they purchase from there. It’s like going to somebody in Japan who purchased items then resells try hem to you.

This is one place: https://www.whiterabbitexpress.com/
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Flanders wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:59 am
Mylute wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:10 pm Tachyon, I have a question.

Testa Matta is Tapit's highest earner, from his first crop actually. He raced exclusively in Japan and won two Grade 1s on dirt, a G2, and a G3.

I know that dirt is not as highly regarded as turf in Japan, but I am confused as to why he retired directly to Korea instead of starting out in Japan. He would have retired when Tapit was really starting to get going as a sire.
Obviously not Tachyon but I don't think he did enough for there to be interest in standing him in Japan. He won his only G1 at age 6 and raced through age 8. South Korea probably offered more than they could hope to get in a stud deal to stand in Japan. His female family also looks kind of weak, at least close up. I couldn't do really in depth looking because his pedigree is severely messed up on pedigreequery and I didn't feel like fixing it.
Actually his fans in Japan were sort of scratching their heads.
But I must agree with Flanders.
He pulled off an upset to win the G1 February Stakes off odds 23/1 at age 6.
But he failed to validate that form in his subsequent starts.
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:27 am

-- per umaichi.com
some more picks of California Chrome

https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/3 ... 23e42b2947
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