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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:22 pm

A Racing Post article that's behind a paywall (so I can't read) asks the question "Is it really possible to predict which flat stallions will be successful?" in the title. They're referring to turf sires of course but that also applies to dirt over here.

I don't think you really can. You also have to take in consideration what equates to success, as what is considered a successful stallion career varies from person to person. It's an interesting discussion.
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Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:17 pm

Mark Valeski is leaving Kentucky for Lake Hamilton Equine Associates veterinary clinic in Arkansas..he formerly stood at Airdrie Stud
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Cloud Computing Gets First Foal in New York
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... n-new-york

Saxon Warrior's First Foal 'a Correct Colt'
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rrect-colt

First Foals for Mendelssohn, Mo Town Born Jan. 14
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... orn-jan-14

First Foal a Filly for Good Samaritan
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -samaritan

First Foal is a Filly for New York Stallion Frank Conversation
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... versation/
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Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:27 pm

Goldikova's 'nephew' Galikeo the first stallion for Haras des Rocs
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/g ... ocs/418343
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:33 pm

So, after looking at tons of stallions photos popping up on twitter as the open houses are ongoing, I have to say that Justify must have crappy feet to still be shod in front. I am not sure I have seen another stallion with shoes on.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:48 pm

The late Lucky Pulpit did very well today.

Fashionably Fast won the California Cup Sprint.

Ward 'n Jerry and Cono finished second and third in the Unusual Heat Turf Classic.

Sacred Rider was third in the California Cup Derby.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:07 pm

CorridorZ75 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:33 pm So, after looking at tons of stallions photos popping up on twitter as the open houses are ongoing, I have to say that Justify must have crappy feet to still be shod in front. I am not sure I have seen another stallion with shoes on.
It pretty much means he is prone to cracks, bruises or abscesses. He had a hoof bruise after the Kentucky Derby, I think.

War Front wears special shoes on his front. If you go to Claiborne's webpage and watch War Front's commercial you can see them.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:13 am

Here are new picks of Bricks and Mortar.
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tachyon wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:13 am Here are new picks of Bricks and Mortar.
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The difference in these two photos is almost comical! You’d think those were 2 different horses.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:26 pm

Flanders wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:20 am
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:34 am Both Old Topper and Sea of Secrets are senior stallions, so that's no surprise...but I'm really sorry to see Coil on that list. :(
I'd so hoped he would be that successful sire son that Point Given hasn't had. I wonder if they've completely given up on him and he'll be gelded, or if they'll wait and see if someone wants a breeding in the future?
He never sired a stakes winner. He didn't cover any mares in 2019 and only 9 in 2018. Wouldn't be surprised if he is gelded, he isn't that old.
Wound Tight, a 5 y/o son of Coil, won the Unusual Heat Turf Classic in gate-to-wire fashion.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:32 pm

Here's another Bricks and Mortar photo.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:07 am

Mylute wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:48 pm The late Lucky Pulpit did very well today.

Fashionably Fast won the California Cup Sprint.

Ward 'n Jerry and Cono finished second and third in the Unusual Heat Turf Classic.

Sacred Rider was third in the California Cup Derby.
Lucky Pulpit is underrated.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 am

Ridan_Remembered wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:07 am
Mylute wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:48 pm The late Lucky Pulpit did very well today.

Fashionably Fast won the California Cup Sprint.

Ward 'n Jerry and Cono finished second and third in the Unusual Heat Turf Classic.

Sacred Rider was third in the California Cup Derby.
Lucky Pulpit is underrated.
From my understanding Lucky Pulpit was a sire of many winners but before Chrome wasn't really a stakes producer.

It's a shame he passed away. These stakes horses are probably coming from his best bred crops.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:40 pm

Empire Maker died
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:44 pm

FlyToTheStars wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:40 pm Empire Maker died
Oh, no....
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FlyToTheStars wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:40 pm Empire Maker died
Well to put it succinctly, yes. However, the fact he died of a rare immune disorder that the article did not really expand on is troubling to me in an industry where he was being bred to "improve the breed".
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Mylute wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:26 pm
Flanders wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:20 am
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:34 am Both Old Topper and Sea of Secrets are senior stallions, so that's no surprise...but I'm really sorry to see Coil on that list. :(
I'd so hoped he would be that successful sire son that Point Given hasn't had. I wonder if they've completely given up on him and he'll be gelded, or if they'll wait and see if someone wants a breeding in the future?
He never sired a stakes winner. He didn't cover any mares in 2019 and only 9 in 2018. Wouldn't be surprised if he is gelded, he isn't that old.
Wound Tight, a 5 y/o son of Coil, won the Unusual Heat Turf Classic in gate-to-wire fashion.
Very, very quietly, Call Me George down in Louisiana had 2 winners out of only 3 runners in his first crop. Maybe he deserves a few more mares at $1000.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:23 pm

honneerider wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:46 pm RiP Empire Maker.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/e ... 5M.twitter
Ugh, my heart. I'm so glad AP is off to a great start as a sire and we have Classic Empire, Midnight Storm, and Cairo Prince to look forward to. His post-Japan crops were doing so well, too...
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CorridorZ75 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:08 pm
Mylute wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:26 pm
Flanders wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:20 am

He never sired a stakes winner. He didn't cover any mares in 2019 and only 9 in 2018. Wouldn't be surprised if he is gelded, he isn't that old.
Wound Tight, a 5 y/o son of Coil, won the Unusual Heat Turf Classic in gate-to-wire fashion.
Very, very quietly, Call Me George down in Louisiana had 2 winners out of only 3 runners in his first crop. Maybe he deserves a few more mares at $1000.
Very liberal definition of the word 'crop' don't u think?
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