Across the pond

Mylute · Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:15 pm

How long has it been "known" that a movie about Frankel is being made?

'Cause Racing Post just reported that Jeremy Irons has been cast as Sir Henry Cecil, and that's the first I've heard of it.

ThreeMustangs · Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:21 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:15 pm How long has it been "known" that a movie about Frankel is being made?

'Cause Racing Post just reported that Jeremy Irons has been cast as Sir Henry Cecil, and that's the first I've heard of it.

First heard for me and I consider myself a Frankel aficionado. More here:

https://www.screendaily.com/news/jeremy ... 85.article

BaroqueAgain1 · Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:51 pm

Forget Jeremy Irons; I want to know who they're going to cast to play FRANKEL!

Della · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:51 pm Forget Jeremy Irons; I want to know who they're going to cast to play FRANKEL!

How about Frankel?

Mylute · Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:48 pm

Not sure where else to put this but ummm apparently Raid the Cabinet mated with his dam at 10 months of age and produced a brotherson.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Racing/statu ... 5336295425

carole · Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:43 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:48 pm Not sure where else to put this but ummm apparently Raid the Cabinet mated with his dam at 10 months of age and produced a brotherson.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Racing/statu ... 5336295425

‘Top name suggestion, Me Daddy’s Me Bro’

Mylute · Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:59 pm

Like I 100% get that these horses are animals, not humans and they do not comprehend morality or feel a natural disgust towards the things we do (although I am also aware there's some real human "Raid the Cabinets" out there) but like...

How big was he when he was a weanling? Remember RtC was only ten months old, not even a yearling. How was he able to mount the dam? How tall was the dam (she passed recently)? And again no morality but how common is a dam letting her weanling colt breed her? Has anyone heard of this?

And it's not unheard of for two year olds to become sexually mature and get in the family way, but a weanling?

Starine · Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm

I've never known a breeder to keep a 10-month-old with his dam. He should have been weaned a ways back.

carole · Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:45 pm

Starine wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm I've never known a breeder to keep a 10-month-old with his dam. He should have been weaned a ways back.

My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, did anyone else find it uncomfortable seeing that little girl there when they were taking about breeding and incest? I know she doesn’t understand those things yet (at least I hope so!) but kids are likely to ask questions about stuff they don’t understand, wouldn’t want to have to explain that to her.

carole · Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:38 pm

Kameko, son of Kitten’s Joy with the same connections as the late Roaring Lion has won the Vertram Futurity Trophy (GI) at Newcastle.

Mylute · Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:52 pm

carole wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:38 pm Kameko, son of Kitten’s Joy with the same connections as the late Roaring Lion has won the Vertram Futurity Trophy (GI) at Newcastle.

Awesome. I decided I liked him a while back. Google says the name is Japanese and means "long life" or "child of the tortoise" (?).

Treve · Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:33 pm

Starine wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm I've never known a breeder to keep a 10-month-old with his dam. He should have been weaned a ways back.

I know a few. With new findings on behaviour and people seeking to emulate ethological patterns of wild horses people are weaning later. In there have been also occasional instances of observing mares in the wild with a bun in the oven, a foal, a yearling and on rare occasion even a 2 year old still following with all three nursing. Most mares wouldn't allow a foal that old to still nurse but... takes all kinds of kinds I guess.

That being said I don't know anyone this has happened to, late weaning or not.

Mylute · Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:46 pm

I can see where a breeder might be inclined to leave the foal with mama longer if the foal was a late bloomer or not developing in the ways they should be, they just need more mama time, but obviously our guy Raid the Cabinet was....not a late bloomer.

ThreeMustangs · Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:28 pm

2019 Cartier Award winners

Horse of the Year Enable
Two-Year-Old Colt Pinatubo
Two-Year-Old Filly Quadrilateral
Three-Year-Old Colt Too Darn Hot
Three-Year-Old Filly Star Catcher
Sprinter Blue Point
Stayer Stradivarius
Older Horse Enable
Cartier/Daily Telegraph Award of Merit Pat Smullen

ETA: John Gosden trained four of the winners.

Northport · Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:10 am

ThreeMustangs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:28 pm 2019 Cartier Award winners

Horse of the Year Enable
Two-Year-Old Colt Pinatubo
Two-Year-Old Filly Quadrilateral
Three-Year-Old Colt Too Darn Hot
Three-Year-Old Filly Star Catcher
Sprinter Blue Point
Stayer Stradivarius
Older Horse Enable
Cartier/Daily Telegraph Award of Merit Pat Smullen

ETA: John Gosden trained four of the winners.

He must be bummed, considering he trained five of the winners last year

carole · Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:19 am

Sea The Stars (Stradivarius and Star Catcher) and Shamardal (Pinatubo and Blue Point) each sire 2 category winners on the night. Other sires include:

Nathaniel (Enable)
Dubawi (Too Darn Hot)
Frankel (Quadrilateral)

Mylute · Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:13 pm

Today I learned there's racing in Mauritius.

I also learned that Mauritius exists.

Starine · Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:48 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:13 pm Today I learned there's racing in Mauritius.

I also learned that Mauritius exists.

Same to both.

tachyon · Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:56 am

My favorite South African champion mare Igugu had to go through 90 days' quarantine in Mauritius before being shipped to England.

I remember posting that story on this board.

Starine · Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:09 pm

Beach Racing Could Come to Britain
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-britain