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Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:49 pm

Orientate was pensioned for the 2018 breeding season. I don't know if this was ever mentioned anywhere.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:56 pm

Mylute wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm Well, I guess Cross Traffic is set to bury the "Unbridled's Song sons don't make good sires" notion.
IMHO, its way too early to make that call. I think people were expecting a lot from First Defence after he sired Close Hatches in his first crop. He ended up in Saudi Arabia just a few years later.
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Mylute wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm Well, I guess Cross Traffic is set to bury the "Unbridled's Song sons don't make good sires" notion.
Premature. First goal would be to cover more than the 60 mares he covered this year. I'd lean to maybe in 2019 at 25,000.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:03 pm

As far as UBS sons go, Midshipman is a really solid sire. He isn't fashionable and hasn't sired any superstars, but he is a good value for those who are breeding to race. He's been getting over a hundred mares per year for the last four breeding seasons. And Darley hasn't moved him along, so I feel like that speaks for itself.
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:35 am

So Glad I Got a Chance to See War Dancer @ Rockridge Stud Hudson NY ( I Have Rockridge and Sequel Stallions very Close to my Home I live in the Historic Hudson Valley of NYS ) Big Brown and Bellamy Road were also Close But have Been Moved to Irish Hills have Pics of all Just have to Figure out how to post them Here
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:24 am

Flanders wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:49 pm Orientate was pensioned for the 2018 breeding season. I don't know if this was ever mentioned anywhere.
I had no idea he was still even breeding up until this year. Wowza.
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:11 pm

I just saw that Bulletin is a son of City Zip.

Yet another Breeders’ Cup winner for the late sire. His absence is surely felt.
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:18 pm

Shoutout to the late exported sire Repent, who has two descendants running today- his son Discreet Lover and granddaughter Midnight Bisou.
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:47 pm

Hey, how about Signalman, a son of General Quarters, getting third in the BCJ?
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:40 am

Just found my list of New Zealand mares bred in 2017. Note there is no actual list released this is just one I made with the data available :) the data for 2018 will be out around February

SH stallions are generally capped at around 160-180 mares so 100 is considered a good book
(Zabeel served up to 200 in his prime)

1. Savabeel by Zabeel - 167
2. Tavistock by Montjeu - 165
3. Vadamos (FR) by Monsun - 159 (FSS)
4. Reliable Man (GB) by Dalakhani - 151
5. Turn Me Loose by Iffraaj - 145 (FSS)
6. Tivaci (AUS) by High Chaparral - 139 (FSS)
7. Iffraaj (GB) by Zafonic - 129
8. Tarzino by Tavistock - 124 (FSS)
9. Telperion (AUS) by Street Cry - 118 (FSS)
10. Showcasing (GB) by Oasis Dream - 116
10. Preferment by Zabeel - 116 (FSS)
12. El Roca (AUS) by Fastnet Rock - 114

Several notes:
-Both Savabeel & Tavistock have restricted books and you must apply for the honour of sending your mare
-I'm expecting Reliable Man numbers to drop this year his oldest are 4yos and only 1 SH stakeswinner
-Of all these stallions Telperion is cheapest at $5000 LFG
-Four of these stallions are shuttle stallions from the UK
-Showcasing is no longer shuttling to NZ
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:34 am

A cutie appeared!
Accelerate (Lookin at Lucky—Issues, by Awesome Again), winner of the #BC18 Classic, gets settled in at
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:37 pm

It's been decided that both Cracksman and Hawkbill will stand at Darley's Dalham Hall division in Newmarket.

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... 019/352448
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:53 pm

Big news!

I’ll Have Another Returning to America, To Stand At Ballena Vista Farm in California
“I truly consider bringing champion I'll Have Another back to the states as one of the most satisfying and one of the best things I've ever done in the Thoroughbred industry,” said Ballena Vista Farm owner Donald Cohn. “He is a magnificent specimen and a true champion racehorse; the likes of what we in California have never had the opportunity to stand.”
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... alifornia/
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:19 pm

While that's good news for California breeders, it doesn't seem to be a positive commentary on his Japanese breeding career. :oops:
Big Red Farm paid $10 million for him, and now they're shipping him back to California after only five seasons? I doubt that $10 million exchanged hands this time. :?
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:35 pm

Scat Daddy's son Daddy Long Legs to stand at Taylor Made
Multiple Group 2 winner Daddy Long Legs has been purchased by a partnership to stand at Taylor Made Stallions in 2019, becoming the most recent son of the late Scat Daddy to stand in Kentucky.

Daddy Long Legs won the Group 2 Royal Lodge Stakes in England as a juvenile and the Group 2 U.A.E. Derby at Meydan the following spring. He launched his stud career at Haras Cordillera in Chile, the country where Coolmore's shuttle stallion Scat Daddy was a leading sire, with two Horse of the Year honorees. Daddy Long Legs also proved popular, siring Group 1 winner Fallen From Heaven, Group 3 winner Atomicka, Group 3 placed Aine, and stakes-placed Pinturita Clasica and Vamos Chileno from his first crop.

The young stallion has been purchased by the partnership of Taylor Made, Phoenix Thoroughbreds, and KatieRich Farms.
More: https://www.drf.com/news/scat-daddys-so ... aylor-made
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:18 pm

Uh....ok?

Unexpected.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:18 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:19 pm While that's good news for California breeders, it doesn't seem to be a positive commentary on his Japanese breeding career. :oops:
Big Red Farm paid $10 million for him, and now they're shipping him back to California after only five seasons? I doubt that $10 million exchanged hands this time. :?
what quality of mares were supporting him?
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:51 pm

sweettalk wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:18 pm
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:19 pm While that's good news for California breeders, it doesn't seem to be a positive commentary on his Japanese breeding career. :oops:
Big Red Farm paid $10 million for him, and now they're shipping him back to California after only five seasons? I doubt that $10 million exchanged hands this time. :?
what quality of mares were supporting him?
Yes exactly.

I know that IHA hasn't gotten Gr.I winners or general graded stakes winners, but like again, he isn't a Shadai stallion; what mares were sent to him and what was their quality? 250-300 mares go to Lord Kanaloa and Maurice and Deep Impact a piece and so on.

Also it was his first crop I believe that yielded the stakes competitors, or most of them. So take what you will from that.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:35 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:35 pm Scat Daddy's son Daddy Long Legs to stand at Taylor Made
Multiple Group 2 winner Daddy Long Legs has been purchased by a partnership to stand at Taylor Made Stallions in 2019, becoming the most recent son of the late Scat Daddy to stand in Kentucky.

Daddy Long Legs won the Group 2 Royal Lodge Stakes in England as a juvenile and the Group 2 U.A.E. Derby at Meydan the following spring. He launched his stud career at Haras Cordillera in Chile, the country where Coolmore's shuttle stallion Scat Daddy was a leading sire, with two Horse of the Year honorees. Daddy Long Legs also proved popular, siring Group 1 winner Fallen From Heaven, Group 3 winner Atomicka, Group 3 placed Aine, and stakes-placed Pinturita Clasica and Vamos Chileno from his first crop.

The young stallion has been purchased by the partnership of Taylor Made, Phoenix Thoroughbreds, and KatieRich Farms.
More: https://www.drf.com/news/scat-daddys-so ... aylor-made
You know that farms are scrambling to get on the Scat Daddy train when they buy Coolmore cast-offs who started in Florida, stood there for one year, then were sold to Chile.

Still, nice to see him off to a good start at stud, I totally forgot about him. Different tax bracket than Justify or even Mendelssohn (though he and DLL both won the UAE Derby), I'll be really interested to see how many mares he gets.

Speaking of which, what ever happened to Stroud's Lane Farm? They launched in 2016 with 3 first year stallions: Daddy Long Legs, Seek Again, and Admiral Kitten. Then after 2016, poof, gone. Their website is somewhat functioning, but way out of date.
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