'Stamping his get'

Starine · Tue May 29, 2018 8:15 pm

I saw a picture of New York-bred Midnight Disguise and was struck how much she reminded me of her sire, Midnight Lute. It seems he throws a lot of foals like himself: Leggy and near black.

What stallions, either alive or deceased, stand out to you as really having stamped their offspring?

Katewerk · Tue May 29, 2018 9:49 pm

Lonhro. (From the admittedly limited number I've seen.)-

Treve · Tue May 29, 2018 9:55 pm

There was another topic on this not long ago...
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6028&hilit=stamping+his+get

BaroqueAgain1 · Tue May 29, 2018 11:03 pm

I may have brought up Lonhro in that previous thread.

If you get a chance to view photos of Lonhro and his son, Denman, you will think you're seeing twins.

The Doctors Saint · Wed May 30, 2018 12:34 am

I see Arch in many of his sons and daughters ESPECIALLY the ears. lol. It's a very distinct, offsided diamond shape. Hard to describe in words.

Sheepish · Wed May 30, 2018 9:57 am

A lot of MDOs offspring have a certain look. I was looking at the picks of Zenyatta's MDO filly and saw very little of the dam in her.

Miss Woodford · Wed May 30, 2018 4:39 pm

Monsun offspring tend to have very flat square croups with a high tail set, almost like an Arabian. They look very "boxy" overall.

Monsun himself

Samum

Network

Gentlewave

Protectionist

Lauro

Manduro

Starine · Wed May 30, 2018 8:53 pm

Sorry for the duplicate thread.

I totally see what you mean with Monsun and his progeny though.

Somnambulist · Wed May 30, 2018 9:42 pm

Starine wrote:Sorry for the duplicate thread.

For those of us who used to have a good memory but don't anymore, I appreciate it.

Ridan_Remembered · Wed May 30, 2018 11:45 pm

This is just one of many California Chrome foals who strongly resemble him. She is a filly out of Celtic Chant, who is a dk b/br mare by Songandaprayer (Unbridled's Song) x Currane by Gone West.

Treve · Thu May 31, 2018 12:40 am

For my stamping his get really is about the conformation... Monsun is a good example!

I'm gonna repeat myself from the old thread but Pioneerof the Nile breeds very true and stamps his offspring to the point it is almost uncanny

Pioneerof the Nile

American Pharoah

Midnight Storm

Cairo Prince

Classic Empire

Social Inclusion

And here is a composite of the first four sons to get a side by side visual
https://scontent.fymq3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5B809B1C

This is particularly so that he seems to stamp his get with his wide, strong shoulder his strong hip and his topline (strong if slightly flat back). He even seems to be stamping them with a slightly longer loin. The necks are also similar in shape from the throatlatch down, although they seem to vary in thickness and length. Cairo Prince has a bit more of a swan-like neck, Pharoah has a neck that is a tad too short from an aesthetic point of view. The chest is also consistent both in how the neck ties into it and in shape. Their heads and are pretty different though. They all have very nice angulation as well, nice straight legs although Social Inclusion borders on the post-y with his pasterns. The overall shape and impression of the horses are similar - rectangular bodied but long legged.
The wide shoulder makes sense since PotN's smooth efficient action he got from Empire Maker and passed it down to Pharoah and CP as far as I can remember. And one of the comments about CP's yearlings was being stamped with a wide shoulder and a far reaching, strong walking stride. His 2yos I've seen moving certainly seem to abide by that particularly his first winner Abyssinian who just glided over that soaked track.