Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

stark · Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Curtis wrote:
ThreeMustangs wrote:Ziconic is entered in R2 at Santa Anita on New Year's Day, a 1 1/16-mile MSW on the dirt.
Earned another check. Finished third as the 5/2 favorite.

Michael Joyce‏
@TVGMike

There has never been a greater argument in favor of exchange wagering than Ziconic.

https://twitter.com/TVGMike/status/947935522927796224

Point Given · Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:15 pm

Ax Man (Misremembered - Shameful, by Flying Chevron) won his debut (MSW at Santa Anita) by 9 1/2 lengths.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -on-1-1-18

Starine · Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:31 pm

First foal out of Egg Drops nears debut
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ears-debut

BaroqueAgain1 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:21 pm

Ax Man was really impressive. IMO, he looks very little like Misremembered (which is fine with me

) and more like his female side of the family.

Diver52 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:13 pm

I think that was the first of the restricted MSW's at Santa Anita, designed to give small barns a chance to run without facing monsters from the big barns. So who wins it? Baffert. (The restrictions are sale price $100,000 or less, or homebred.) Can't win for losing.

I always liked Misremembered and although he hasn't been much of a sire (possibly because he had a funkyish way of going IIRC) he had quite a bit of talent and has the right to sire a good one.

stark · Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:09 am

Diver52 wrote:I think that was the first of the restricted MSW's at Santa Anita, designed to give small barns a chance to run without facing monsters from the big barns. So who wins it? Baffert. (The restrictions are sale price $100,000 or less, or homebred.) Can't win for losing.

I always liked Misremembered and although he hasn't been much of a sire (possibly because he had a funkyish way of going IIRC) he had quite a bit of talent and has the right to sire a good one.

That really is funny, Ritvo created the anti-BB rule specifically so that homebreds and less expensive maidens wouldn't have to run against the multi-million dollar auction winners. Guessing a guy like Zito would love to see a similar condition on the east coast, probably call it the anti-TP rule

Ohbytheway, AX MAN got a 96 BSF for his initial outing.

Diver52 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:56 pm

Admittedly Ax Man met the spirit as well as the letter of the restriction--from a small breeder by an inexpensive stallion. At least BB didn't dip in with a Juddmontr homebred!

lurkey mclurker · Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:01 pm

G @LongBallToNoOne
8h 8 hours ago
G Retweeted Stay Dream

Gentildonna's full 3yo sister has passed her gate test and is progressing with training. One to look forward to in 2018

I think she looks like a feminine version of her sire, definitely. Wish she had a name though!

Ridan_Remembered · Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:27 pm

Gentildonna's full sister is very pretty. Very racy looking.

Sparrow Castle · Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:43 pm

Heard a rumor and it's looks like it's true.

AIDANOBRIENFANSITE‏ @aobrienfansite
8h8 hours ago
De Coronado has been sold and has been transferred to his new trainer Seamus Durack and is now owned by Miss Sam Beddoes he has entries at Kempton & Wolverhampton in the next week.

27Dec17 Changed Trainer notification: A P O'Brien to Seamus Durack
https://www.racingpost.com/profile/hors ... e-coronado

2013 H Street Cry (IRE) - Vertigineux, by Kris S. - full to Zenyatta.

BaroqueAgain1 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:43 pm

IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertigineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud.

Northport · Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:01 pm

If they are willing to sell Henrythenavigator, Duke of Marmalade, Black Sam Bellamy, John F Kennedy, Gallante, etc., De Coronado never had a chance. Unless you're a star on the track and hit the ground running with your first 3 crops, no one is guaranteed a stall at Ballydoyle or Coolmore. If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I wouldn't be surprised to see De Coronado standing somewhere as a National Hunt stallion at some point. The family has plenty of stamina and for a couple hundred Euro, some breeders might be interested.

sweettalk · Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:10 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertinineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud.

sshhh, some of us are in trouble already for suggesting this.

BaroqueAgain1 · Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:21 pm

If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I know I should know this but

...who was the Urban Sea son they sold?

mariasmon · Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:24 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I know I should know this but ...who was the Urban Sea son they sold?

Black Sam Bellamy

Starine · Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:33 pm

Son of Jersey Girl starts anew at Life Adventure Center
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/inside-a ... enter.aspx

lurkey mclurker · Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 pm

G @LongBallToNoOne
3h 3 hours ago

￥253,800,000 Select sale 2016 yearling, now 3yo colt KAZAN (Deep Impact x Champagne d'Oro(USA) (Medaglia d'Oro)) debuts over 2000m on Turf at Kyoto Saturday, can't wait to see what's under that rug! #hyped

https://t.co/QDIz5ORUL7

lurkey mclurker · Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:39 pm

Jess Samy @Frankel1313
17h 17 hours ago

Here's one of the Scat Daddys newcomer !

Called LA LA PAY FORWARD (Scat Daddy x Blushing Issue); He is a sibling to American Oaks & Del Mar Oaks winner LADY OF SHAMROCK.

He is stunning !

Flanders · Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:57 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertigineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud.

I'm not surprised at all. Coolmore would never stand this quality of racehorse at their farm.

I am surprised that he wasn't sold to the US though.

Miss Woodford · Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:17 am

lurkey mclurker wrote:
Jess Samy @Frankel1313
17h 17 hours ago

Here's one of the Scat Daddys newcomer !

Called LA LA PAY FORWARD (Scat Daddy x Blushing Issue); He is a sibling to American Oaks & Del Mar Oaks winner LADY OF SHAMROCK.

He is stunning !

He's so fuzzy! I'm surprised he hasn't been given a racing clip.