I was thinking all of this too!BaroqueAgain1 wrote:She's very antsy...not surprising for a mare who just came off the track. She looks good. Better than she did last Friday. Probably because she's more hydrated.
$6,000,000.
Love the stretch she did just before she left the ring. Cat-like.
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i almost started crying. i'm so relieved.starrydreamer wrote:Stateside. Went to Bridlewood and Don Alberto.sweettalk wrote:stateside? please stay stateside...starrydreamer wrote:$2.3M for Cathryn Sophia. I think she's the first million dollar horse in this sale (she was hip 30).
We are a handful of hips away from Stellar Wind.
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Ditto. She looked stunning. And I laughed out loud at that stretch - adorable.Carotene wrote:I was thinking all of this too!BaroqueAgain1 wrote:She's very antsy...not surprising for a mare who just came off the track. She looks good. Better than she did last Friday. Probably because she's more hydrated.
$6,000,000.
Love the stretch she did just before she left the ring. Cat-like.
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Coolmore got her will be bred to American Pharoah
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Interesting. Curlin isn't known for his grass runners, so I wonder if she stays here at Ashford to be bred to a dirt stallion. Perhaps to create a potential Derby-type horse?
ETA: OK, AP would definitely fit that description.
ETA: OK, AP would definitely fit that description.
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Claire Novak-Crosby @BH_CNovak 3m3 minutes agoBaroqueAgain1 wrote:Interesting. Curlin isn't known for his grass runners, so I wonder if she stays here at Ashford to be bred to a dirt stallion. Perhaps to create a potential Derby-type horse?
Stellar Wind sells to Coolmore, will be bred to American Pharoah
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I was wrong. Coolmore was definitely interested in her.mosieposie12 wrote:Coolmore got her will be bred to American Pharoah
And I was wrong again because the first hip was the first million dollar horse. Talk about starting with a bang!
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157 is a stout grey Into Mischief colt out of a UBS mare. Might be fast.
$320,000. Pretty good for a weanling.
$320,000. Pretty good for a weanling.
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158, Street Fancy, will probably bring $$$. A stakes-winning Street Sense filly in foal to MdO.
$1,500,000.
$1,500,000.
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163, Tammy the Torpedo, should be attractive to someone like Coolmore. A winning More Than Ready mare in foal to War Front? And she's really pretty.
$1,650,000.
ETA: She sold to Dr. Masatake Iida. Anyone familiar with who this is?
$1,650,000.
ETA: She sold to Dr. Masatake Iida. Anyone familiar with who this is?
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Life at Ten bought by SF Bloodstock, which has horses in the US, UK, Ireland, France, and Australia.TapitsGal wrote:Anyone know who bought life at ten and criminologist
Criminologist bought by Brushy Hill Equine.
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Well, Street Cry x Vertigineux was a D before Zenyatta was born, it's not perfect by any meansBallerina wrote:Nicks out to a C. Guess one can't always go by a nicking system.mosieposie12 wrote:Coolmore got her will be bred to American Pharoah
A filly named Ruffian...
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
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So, I am not too well-versed in the sales stuff, so this may be a dumb question, but can someone answer this for me:
Brian Graves purchased the weanling filly by American Pharoah o/o Life at Ten and in an interview said the following:
"We intend to re-sell her next year," said Graves. "We just thought she was a beautiful, balanced filly, and maybe one of the best in the sale. American Pharoahs have been selling well. She's out of a grade 1 winner and she's all class, so we'll take a shot."
What is the point of that? Is that not just a waste of money? I assume he's just taking a chance that for some reason he can re-sell her for a higher price than he purchased her for, but given the fact that at next year's sale, she and all the other AP foals will still only be yearlings, AP still won't have proven himself as a sire...nothing will change other than his foals will be bigger and conformationally slightly more defined. Am I wrong?
Brian Graves purchased the weanling filly by American Pharoah o/o Life at Ten and in an interview said the following:
"We intend to re-sell her next year," said Graves. "We just thought she was a beautiful, balanced filly, and maybe one of the best in the sale. American Pharoahs have been selling well. She's out of a grade 1 winner and she's all class, so we'll take a shot."
What is the point of that? Is that not just a waste of money? I assume he's just taking a chance that for some reason he can re-sell her for a higher price than he purchased her for, but given the fact that at next year's sale, she and all the other AP foals will still only be yearlings, AP still won't have proven himself as a sire...nothing will change other than his foals will be bigger and conformationally slightly more defined. Am I wrong?
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It's called pin-hooking and is pretty common on the commercial side of breeding. If the filly continues to develop nicely, he stands to make a profit. Pin-hookers have to balance the purchase price for and care of the weanling for about a year against the potential yearling sales price. They have to hope nothing happens to the weanling in that year, too. It's a bonus if any relatives of the weanling win stakes and enhance the weanling's catalog page. There must be potential profit in it because, as mentioned, pin-hooking is pretty common.Macaroni wrote:So, I am not too well-versed in the sales stuff, so this may be a dumb question, but can someone answer this for me:
Brian Graves purchased the weanling filly by American Pharoah o/o Life at Ten and in an interview said the following:
"We intend to re-sell her next year," said Graves...American Pharoahs have been selling well. She's out of a grade 1 winner and she's all class, so we'll take a shot."
What is the point of that?
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Whew, that seems...super risky. But I guess it must pay off if it's so common. Thanks for the explanation!Ridan_Remembered wrote:It's called pin-hooking and is pretty common on the commercial side of breeding. If the filly continues to develop nicely, he stands to make a profit. Pin-hookers have to balance the purchase price for and care of the weanling for about a year against the potential yearling sales price. They have to hope nothing happens to the weanling in that year, too. It's a bonus if any relatives of the weanling win stakes and enhance the weanling's catalog page. There must be potential profit in it because, as mentioned, pin-hooking is pretty common.Macaroni wrote:So, I am not too well-versed in the sales stuff, so this may be a dumb question, but can someone answer this for me:
Brian Graves purchased the weanling filly by American Pharoah o/o Life at Ten and in an interview said the following:
"We intend to re-sell her next year," said Graves...American Pharoahs have been selling well. She's out of a grade 1 winner and she's all class, so we'll take a shot."
What is the point of that?
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You're very welcome. Oh, by the way, no question is "dumb" to me. If you want additional info, here's a good article from The Paulick Report: https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray- ... pinhookingMacaroni wrote:Whew, that seems...super risky. But I guess it must pay off if it's so common. Thanks for the explanation!
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It can be risky but if you look at the Cairo Prince weanlings that were bought last year, then look at his yearling sales this year, whoever bothered to pinhook a yearling or two probably hit a home run.Macaroni wrote:Whew, that seems...super risky. But I guess it must pay off if it's so common. Thanks for the explanation!Ridan_Remembered wrote:It's called pin-hooking and is pretty common on the commercial side of breeding. If the filly continues to develop nicely, he stands to make a profit. Pin-hookers have to balance the purchase price for and care of the weanling for about a year against the potential yearling sales price. They have to hope nothing happens to the weanling in that year, too. It's a bonus if any relatives of the weanling win stakes and enhance the weanling's catalog page. There must be potential profit in it because, as mentioned, pin-hooking is pretty common.Macaroni wrote:So, I am not too well-versed in the sales stuff, so this may be a dumb question, but can someone answer this for me:
Brian Graves purchased the weanling filly by American Pharoah o/o Life at Ten and in an interview said the following:
"We intend to re-sell her next year," said Graves...American Pharoahs have been selling well. She's out of a grade 1 winner and she's all class, so we'll take a shot."
What is the point of that?
A filly named Ruffian...
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder