2015 Names

Treve · Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:13 am

Will's Pioneer - Grey or Roan colt Pioneerof the Nile x Holy Bubbette (full to Cairo Prince)

mariasmon · Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:12 am

Ride a Comet - c. Candy Ride x Appealing Zophie (1/2 to Tapwrit)

mariasmon · Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:37 am

Pretty At War - f. War Front x Plum Pretty

Alywow · Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:30 pm

mariasmon wrote:Pretty At War - f. War Front x Plum Pretty

Couldn't they come up with something better?

bare it all · Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:23 am

mariasmon wrote:Pretty At War - f. War Front x Plum Pretty

That's really, really terrible. Not just the lack of creativity, but the imagery itself is terrible. Who wants to be "pretty" at a war? Just no.

Personally, I would have named her Salicina. It's lovely and feminine and rolls nicely off the tongue. P. salicina is one of the most commercial plum species.

PONYRCR · Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:02 am

bare it all wrote:
mariasmon wrote:Pretty At War - f. War Front x Plum Pretty
That's really, really terrible. Not just the lack of creativity, but the imagery itself is terrible. Who wants to be "pretty" at a war? Just no.

Personally, I would have named her Salicina. It's lovely and feminine and rolls nicely off the tongue. P. salicina is one of the most commercial plum species.

They could have gone with War Isn't Pretty. It still combines both parents names and makes a political statement.

BaroqueAgain1 · Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:50 am

I wonder how often owners submit cool, clever or classy names, only to get stuck with their 2nd or 3rd choice when their preferred name gets rejected by the JC for some reason.

mariasmon · Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:10 pm

Unfortunately, Pretty at War was the first and only name submitted in this case.

Treve · Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:11 am

Was Wonder Woman/Diana Prince taken?
I think the Wonder Woman film showed the grace and beauty in the sheer athleticism of the amazons, so that could evoke a certain imagery without glorifying warfare. Plus in terms of comics canon, the amazons fight with honour and nobility, and for a just cause. It doesn't have quite the same infantilised connotations of "pretty". Or they could've tried a name pertaining to cultures with warrior women/famous warrior women of the past.

Flanders · Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm

Treve wrote:Was Wonder Woman/Diana Prince taken?

Both of those names would be considered copyrighted material and not be allowed to be used. The only way you could get around it is if you knew a real person named Diana Prince and she gave you written permission to use her name.

Treve · Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:36 am

Flanders wrote:
Treve wrote:Was Wonder Woman/Diana Prince taken?
Both of those names would be considered copyrighted material and not be allowed to be used. The only way you could get around it is if you knew a real person named Diana Prince and she gave you written permission to use her name.

According to pedigreequery there have been 10 horses named Wonder Woman with the earliest being in 1936 and the most recent being 2013.
None named Diana Prince, though.

For fun I checked, there's likewise two dozens of Batmans (only one Bruce Wayne from 2014) and a similar number of Supermans (5 Clark Kents including two from 2011 but one is from USA and one from Turkey). I also tried a bunch of disney characters/movies (cause they're notoriously draconian about copyright in a way DC isn't) and there were horses for all including some as recent as the early 2000s. I'm not sure copyright is an issue - I thought only names of real people were (unless express written permission).

mariasmon · Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:13 pm

mariasmon wrote:
mariasmon wrote:They haven't submitted a name yet, but I noticed the 2015 Shanghai Bobby out of Opulence (Giant's Causeway/Rags to Riches) now has a gelding notation in his file. I can about guarantee, in keeping with Coolmore norms, he's not going to get a good name if he's already been gelded.
"The Bobby" has been submitted for him. Why do they hate him so much?

Hold up, it's now approved. Coolmore has all the power.

starrydreamer · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:41 am

Treve wrote:
Flanders wrote:
Treve wrote:Was Wonder Woman/Diana Prince taken?
Both of those names would be considered copyrighted material and not be allowed to be used. The only way you could get around it is if you knew a real person named Diana Prince and she gave you written permission to use her name.
According to pedigreequery there have been 10 horses named Wonder Woman with the earliest being in 1936 and the most recent being 2013.
None named Diana Prince, though.

For fun I checked, there's likewise two dozens of Batmans (only one Bruce Wayne from 2014) and a similar number of Supermans (5 Clark Kents including two from 2011 but one is from USA and one from Turkey). I also tried a bunch of disney characters/movies (cause they're notoriously draconian about copyright in a way DC isn't) and there were horses for all including some as recent as the early 2000s. I'm not sure copyright is an issue - I thought only names of real people were (unless express written permission).

The 1999 Wonder Woman was bred by Joseph Allen, and out of Wandering Star, a graded stakes winner.

mariasmon · Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:18 pm

Happy Hoofer - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee

Sparrow Castle · Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:28 pm

mariasmon wrote:Happy Hoofer - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee

Good grief. I heard the first name they submitted was Dirt in the Skirt, presumably from A League of Their Own. Can't see the "Humor" in either name for this well-bred little one.

mariasmon · Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:39 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:
mariasmon wrote:Happy Hoofer - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee
Good grief. I heard the first name they submitted was Dirt in the Skirt, presumably from A League of Their Own. Can't see the "Humor" in either name for this well-bred little one.

I was glad to see Dirt in the Skirt was rejected, but then this one came and I thought Dirt in the Skirt sounded a little better

Sparrow Castle · Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:49 pm

mariasmon wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:
mariasmon wrote:Happy Hoofer - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee
Good grief. I heard the first name they submitted was Dirt in the Skirt, presumably from A League of Their Own. Can't see the "Humor" in either name for this well-bred little one.
I was glad to see Dirt in the Skirt was rejected, but then this one came and I thought Dirt in the Skirt sounded a little better

LOL, yeah I guess you're right!

firehorse · Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:35 am

Sparrow Castle wrote:
mariasmon wrote:Happy Hoofer - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee
Good grief. I heard the first name they submitted was Dirt in the Skirt, presumably from A League of Their Own. Can't see the "Humor" in either name for this well-bred little one.

Given that you only need to change one letter to get 'Happy Hooker', I doubt they were referencing baseball with 'Dirt in the Skirt'. They're both wretched names for a filly.

mariasmon · Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:24 am

Alaflaak - f. War Front x Lahudood (GB)
Anna's Angel - f. Bodemeister x Irish Cherry (1/2 to Spun Sugar, Daaher)

Cheery Oats - f. Distorted Humor x Oatsee

Dancing Brave Bear - f. Street Cry x Baghdaria
Dreamers and Me - f. Mission Impazible x Genisa (2nd dam is Tizdubai)

First Warrior - c. War Front x First Passage

Kentucky Club - c. Oxbow x Indiz (2nd dam is Zaftig)

Maya Malibu - f. Malibu Moon x Island Sand

Piocho - c. Malibu Moon x Private Gift (dam is 1/2 to Secret Status)
Principe Guilherme - c. Tapit x Aubby K

Smashing Serena - f. Violence x Serena's Sister

Touch of Grace - f. Tiznow x Sealy Hill

mariasmon · Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:25 am

^^Fortunately, someone had the sense to call and cancel the name "Happy Hoofer" for the Oatsee filly.