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Calypso
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:45 am

sweettalk wrote:well, so far, between rachel and zen, i wouldn't breed to the boys of either of them. zen's can't outrun a hibernating turtle (tho her tapit isn't quite as sluggish as her other), and rachel's couldn't stay together to race more than once.

i guess we'll see how it goes in the shed, but...
At least for Jess's Dream I can see enough upside to give him a shot in a regional program. He has a reasonably strong family to back him up.... By a 2xHoTY who is currently becoming one of the hot sires of the moment, out of a HoTY who already produced a G1 winner out of 2 foals to race (and whose 2 foals are both winners), and his half sister is a 2yo G1 winner.

I remember seeing a yearling photo of Jess's Dream and thinking his legs looked like a tragedy waiting to happen. I guess he just couldn't grow out of them. Hopefully he doesn't pass that on though. If I were a FL breeder I'd definitely consider him but would want to wait to see what his first foals look like.

As much as I love Zenyatta....no. Just no. If either/or/both haven't already been gelded, it needs to happen. >.<
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sweettalk
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:38 am

if i were a breeder, i would definitely not be brave enough to be the first one in on jess. i've heard curlin is crooked, and if that's true, and he passed it on to jess (who was obviously in worse shape as curlin ran 16 times, and at top level), well. someone else can be first :?

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i pulled this up... we can talk abt the angle and the growing and the weather all day but. wow.

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BaroqueAgain1
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:36 pm

I don't think I've seem a more unfortunate-looking stallion prospect. :shock:
Along with the crooked front legs, he's also shallow through the chest. His hindquarters don't look very strong, his back legs seem rather straight and those pasterns appear a bit upright. :oops:
I wouldn't breed to him with someone else's money.
At least Zen's boys, slow though they may be, are put together well. They may make fine mounts...in some other competitive discipline...while I would be afraid to ride JD at more than a walk in a well-groomed pony-ride ring.. :P :lol:
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:52 pm

Jess's Dream-he had a tough delivery and beginning, as I recall, as did Rachel. Remember they went to the hospital for a couple days.Then I vaguely remember Rachel didn't know quite what to do with him.
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:46 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I don't think I've seem a more unfortunate-looking stallion prospect. :shock:
Along with the crooked front legs, he's also shallow through the chest. His hindquarters don't look very strong, his back legs seem rather straight and those pasterns appear a bit upright. :oops:
I wouldn't breed to him with someone else's money.
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Keep in mind he's a year old in those photos.....
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:53 pm

Press release, December 23rd, 2016
No interruption expected in 2017 breeding season for Nyquist following successful colic surgery
Kentucky Derby and Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner Nyquist, who stands at Darley in Lexington, Kentucky, is doing well following colic surgery yesterday at Hagyard Equine Medical Institute.
https://www.darleyamerica.com/news/pres ... -23rd-2016
BaroqueAgain1
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:12 pm

Keep in mind he's a year old in those photos.....

OK, I missed that at first. Still, would his shoulders grow deeper? Or is bone structure pretty well set by the time a TB reaches that age?
Guess I need to wait on his updated, mature stallion portrait before final judgement. :P ;)

Sorry to read about Nyquist. That poor colt seems to have been under a Bad Moon ever since the Triple Crown.
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:11 pm

This is a photo of Jess's Dream from this past June. He looks a lot better in this photo than in that yearling shot. Even though he's wearing leg wraps, his legs look ok to me, although it's possible he toes out some. Hard to say for sure from just one unposed photo.

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sweettalk
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:33 pm

Those wraps just need to stay on forever in every picture all the time. Too bad it cant be extended to those pasterns or up the back legs.
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:44 pm

Not to sound ignorant, but isn't a straight hind leg desirable?
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The bottom one is him as a 2 year old. Dunno if that helps at all.

Here is one of Curlin to compare lol

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TBird
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Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:01 pm

Vandalay wrote:Not to sound ignorant, but isn't a straight hind leg desirable?
A hind leg that is straight, as in not crooked, is desirable.

A hind leg that is straight, as in not much angulation (ie, post-legged) is generally not.
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Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:37 pm

Heatseeker Euthanized Following Paddock Accident
Harris Farms' multiple graded stakes-winning stallion Heatseeker was euthanized Dec. 27 at the Veterinary Teaching Hospital at the University of California-Davis after he was discovered in his paddock with a broken left femur.

The 13-year-old son of Giant's Causeway began his stud career in 2008 at Hill 'n' Dale Farms in Central Kentucky before relocating to Harris Farms near Coalinga, Calif., for the 2012 breeding season. He stood for $5,000 this year.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... k-accident
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Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:30 pm

tachyon wrote:Happy 28th Birthday, Scan!!

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for more picks of his:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 6117800623
http://rha.or.jp/f/scan/2016/03/post-6.html
Scan(USA) died of old age at Araki Farm, Hokkaido where he had been pensioned on Dec 31st 2016. :(
May he rest in peace.

http://rha.or.jp/n/2016/12/post-56.html
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Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:59 pm

Cowboy Cal from Pin Oak Stud to Korea.

Candice Hare ‏@chare889
Solid list of USA stallions imported to @korearacing in 2016. Another big stride in improving the quality of their bloodstock.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:01 am

didn't know divine park was sold. I don't think there are too many chester house sons out there, and lady eli is his. very very bummed we don't have him here still.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:36 am

BC Juvenile winner, Texas Red to Crestwood for $7500 fee:

http://www.crestwoodfarm.com/stallions/ ... wood-farm/
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:51 pm

Alphabet Soup progressing under cancer treatment
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -treatment

Silentio to stand in Texas at Keen Farms
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... keen-farms
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:12 am

sweettalk wrote:didn't know divine park was sold. I don't think there are too many chester house sons out there, and lady eli is his. very very bummed we don't have him here still.
I don't know that Bloodhorse picked up his sale. I think I saw it on Paulick Report more toward the beginning of 2016. I was hoping he'd do well but besides Lady Eli, he didn't sire much.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:27 pm

NYRA stalwart Dad's Caps to stud... in California? $5,000 for the son of Discreet Cat

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... california
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