The rise of Sunday Silence

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Big Ten
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Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:04 am

Tachyon, by any chance you have the past performances of Deep Impact and Broad Appeal?

Thinking of getting into Japanese racing exclusively thanks to them and for my dismay with the Americans' "dysfunctional" racing. They are arguably two of the most exciting racehorses I have ever seen. Yes, even exciting to rewatch than Secretariat, Ghostzapper, Zenyatta, and American Pharoah. l need an actual order of Deep Impact and Broad Appeal's races. I expanded my collection and would like to have all their races if I can find them all on YouTube. Even if I can't understand the calls, I replay more of their races than other greater horses. And my collection has doubled to 600+ races with all of Beholder, Rachel Alexandra, and Ruffian's races.

I love the sprinter, Broad Appeal, win on dirt and turf. No prejudice to a specific surface. I also love the camera angles and seeing the Japanese crowd throw their programs in the air in one of Deep Impact's races. I was already a fan of Deep Impact before he ran in the Arc and was aware of Broad Appeal a year later when Gin Talking mentioned her. I try to watch Frankel's races and fall asleep. Black Caviar career highlights too. I have Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, and so on. Some cool performances but I still can't get into them. Deep Impact and Broad Appeal from 10-15+ years ago closing fast to win against LARGE FIELDS are just more exciting to rewatch than most greats from US, Europe, and Australia.
Rock Hard Ten. Cigar. Ghostzapper. Zenyatta.
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Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:51 am

Big Ten wrote:

I was already a fan of Deep Impact before he ran in the Arc and was aware of Broad Appeal a year later when Gin Talking mentioned her.
I remember that!
I started to browse TBC FORUM in 2003 when I was looking for some extra info about Funny Cide after his Preakness win. I used to live in America and North American racing was my home in those days. I became a TBC member in 2005 after I saw Smarty Jones' TC bid and left America for Japan in 2004.

Gin Talking was a very active, knowledgeable and thoughtful poster and I learned a lot from her.
(I always hope she will be back!!)
I remember translating a Japanese racecall of the Negishi Stakes into English on her request.... good old days!

-- replay of the Negishi Stakes 2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYGCMtCW8Lc

I couldn't find any DRF (or Bris or Equibase) type PPs for Deep Impact and Broad Appeal.
But you may check out their race records in the links below, respectively.
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000742976/record/
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000287786/record/

P.S.
Broad Appeal(USA) was bred to Pyro(USA) this year.
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:28 am

Major Emblem(JPN), 2013F. Daiwa Major(JPN) x Catchy Title(JPN) by Opera House(GB), cruised to win the G1 Hanshin Juvenile Fillies 1600m turf at Hanshin on Dec 13th 2015, improving her record to 4-3-1-0.
She stamped herself the best 2yo filly of the country and will be voted so in the JRA awards.
Daiwa Major(JPN)(Sunday Silence) has had a big year with his 2yos.
Jockey Christophe Lemaire grabbed his first G1 title as a JRA licensed rider.

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-- replay of the Hanshin Juvenile Fillies (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ctEd_B8S1M
1st 2 Major Emblem(JPN)(Daiwa Major x Catchy Title by Opera House) F2 54 01:34.5
2nd 13 Win Fabulous(JPN)(Stay Gold x Summer Eternity by Admire Cozzene) F2 54 01:34.8 2
3rd 11 Blanc Bonheur(JPN)(Deep Impact x Le Sucre by Sakura Bakushin O) F2 54 01:35.0 1 1/4
4th 10 Peptide Supple(JPN) F2 54 01:35.1 NK
5th 9 At the Seaside(JPN) F2 54 01:35.1 NS
6th 5 Personnalite(JPN) F2 54 01:35.2 3/4
7th 17 Denko Ange(JPN) F2 54 01:35.4 1 1/4
8th 7 Crocosmia(JPN) F2 54 01:35.4 NK
9th 1 Admire Lead(JPN) F2 54 01:35.5 NK
9th 15 Candy Barows(JPN) F2 54 01:35.5 DH
11th 8 Major Typhoon(JPN) F2 54 01:35.6 1/2
12th 6 Meisho Suizuki(JPN) F2 54 01:35.6 NK
13th 4 Queue du Lapin(JPN) F2 54 01:36.8 7
14th 18 Medjerda(JPN) F2 54 01:36.8 NS
15th 12 Win Mireille(JPN) F2 54 01:36.8 NS
16th 14 Gentle Heart(JPN) F2 54 01:37.2 2 1/2
17th 3 Ma Cherie Girl(JPN) F2 54 01:39.3 DS
18th 16 Kirishima Ojo(JPN) F2 54 01:43.0 DS

Major Emblem(JPN)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001170864/
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:44 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:That was a very impressive win by Sambista...the lovely, leggy mare really kicked it into high gear in the stretch.
Tachyon, since she is going to be seven very soon, do you think she will stay in training, or be retired to be a broodmare?
Sambista(JPN)(M6. Suzuka Mambo) has been retired from racing after all.
She will be a broodmare at Grand Bokujo (Stud) where she was born.

Lachesis(JPN)(M5. Deep Impact), 2014 QE2 Cup winner, has also been retired.
She will return to Northern Farm to be a broodmare, too.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:34 am

Leontes(JPN), 2013C. King Kamehameha(JPN) x Cesario(JPN) by Special Week(JPN), won the G1 Asahi Hai Futurity Stakes 1600m turf at Hanshin in dramatic fashion. He became the first colt in JRA history to win a G1 in only his second career start since the grade system was implemented in 1984.
He stamps himself the best 2yo colt of the country and will be voted so in the JRA award.
Race's favorite Air Spinel(JPN), 2013C. King Kamehameha(JPN) x Air Meesiah(JPN) by Sunday Silence(JPN), was second. Air Messiah(JPN), G1 Shuka Sho winner and worthy opponent for chanpion Cesario while they were racing, died in a paddock accident last year.

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Mirco Demuro aboard

-- replay of the Asahi Hai (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNlImP94Zk
1st 15 Leontes(JPN)(King Kamehameha x Cesario by Specila Week) C2 55 01:34.4
2nd 11 Air Spinel(JPN)(King Kamehameha x air Messiah by Sunday Silence) C2 55 01:34.5 3/4
3rd 13 Shadow Approach(JPN)(Jungle Pocket x Maruka Aichan by French Deputy) C2 55 01:35.2 4
4th 6 Yu Change(JPN) C2 55 01:35.2 NK
5th 12 Shuji(JPN) C2 55 01:35.2 NS
6th 8 Two M Legend(JPN) C2 55 01:35.3 NK
7th 10 Taisei Summit(JPN) C2 55 01:35.3 NS
8th 3 Admire Morale(JPN) C2 55 01:35.4 1/2
9th 7 Immortal(JPN) C2 55 01:35.4 NK
10th 4 Copano Deal(JPN) F2 54 01:35.5 NK
11th 9 Ball Lightning(JPN) C2 55 01:35.8 2
12th 14 Hallelujah Boy(JPN) C2 55 01:36.0 1 1/4
13th 16 Thrilla in Manila(JPN) C2 55 01:36.2 1 1/2
14th 2 Shonan Rise(JPN) C2 55 01:36.6 2 1/2
15th 1 Saimon Seele(JPN) C2 55 01:36.8 1 1/4
16th 5 Win Oscar(JPN) C2 55 01:36.9 1/2

Leontes(JPN)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001170063/
2-2-0-0
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:54 pm

Leontes looks like a tall horse. He seemed to dwarf Air Spinel when he ran by him in the stretch.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:03 am

tachyon wrote:Fuji Kiseki(JPN), the eldest son of Sunday Silence(USA), became the first stallion in Japan to sire his grade stakes winners from his 16 consecutive crops, when Isala Bonita(JPN)[2011C. Fuji Kiseki(JPN) x Isla Cozzne(USA) by Cozzene(USA)] won the G3 Tokyo Sports Hai Nisai Stakes 1800m turf at Tokyo on Nov 16th 2013.

The previous record (At least one grade stakes winner from the stallion's 15 consecutive crops) had been held by Northern Taste(CAN) and himself.

Fuji Kiseki(JPN) : 1992H. Sunday Silence(USA) x Millracer(USA) by Le Fabuleux(FR)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000262443/

-- lifetime race record: 4-4-0-0 (undefeated -- he had to be retired due to tendon injury before classic races)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000262443/record/

-- replays of Fuji Kiseki's all wins: [MSW, Momiji Stakes, Asahi Hai(G1), Yayoi Sho(G2)] (1994-1995)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZQoqjYIXro

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Fuji Kiseki winning the G1 Asahi Hai in 1994

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Fuji Kiseki at Shadai Stallion Station

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Fuji Kiseki at Shadai Stallion Station (pick courtesy of Shdai Farm Facebook)
https://www.facebook.com/ShadaiFarm#!/p ... 451&type=1
(his stud duty has been suspended since 2011 -- Everyone hopes he can enjoy his life as long as possible. ;) )
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pensioned at Shadai Stallion Station (March 2015)
Today is a very sad day. :cry:
Fuji Kiseki(JPN), 23yo, one of the greatest sons of Sunday Silence(USA), died of cervical injury at Shadai Stallion Station on Dec 28th 2015.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:59 am

Fuji Kiseki(JPN), G1 winner who had to retire from racing unbeaten due to tendon injury, also proved to be a wonderful sire as well as a sire of sires!!

Fuji Kiseki's major achievements at stud to date:

-- as a sire of G1 winners:

Kane Hekili(JPN) 2002H -- Japan Cup dirt (twice), February Stakes, Tokyo Daishoten
Sun Classique(AUS) 2003M -- Dubai Sheema Classique, Woolavington Stakes, Cape Fillies Guineas, Majorca Stakes
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) 2003H -- Takamatsunomiya Kinen (twice)
Fine Grain(JPN) 2003H -- Takamatsunomiya Kinen
Koiuta(JPN) 2003M -- Victoria Mile
Asian Winds(JPN) 2004M -- Victoria Mile
Danon Chantilly(JPN) 2007H -- NHK Mile Cup
Sadamu Patek(JPN) 2008H -- Mile Championship
Straight Girl(JPN) 2009M -- Victoria Mile, Sprinters Stakes
Isla Bomita(JPN) 2011C -- Satsuki Sho (Japanese 2000 Guineas)

-- as a broodmare sire of G1 winners:

Yosei(AUS) 2007M -- AJC Sire's Produce Stakes, Caulfield Thousand Guineas, Tattersals Tiara
Your Song(AUS) 2009H -- BTC Cup
Kermadec(AUS) 2011C -- Doncaster Mile, George Main Stakes

-- as a sire of sires:

Daitaku Riva(JPN) 1997H, sire of G3 winner Brightia Pulse(JPN), covered 12 mares in 2015
Kane Hekili(JPN) 2002H, 77 winners / 145 starters, covered 105 mares in 2015
Fine Grain(JPN) 2003H -- stallion in France
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) 2003H, 4th in 2yo sire ranking in 2015, sire of G3 winner Shuji(JPN), covered 154 mares in 2011, 187 in 2012, 144 in 2013, 125 in 2014, 180 in 2015
Danon Chantilly(JPN) 2007H, 22nd in 2yo sire ranking in 2015, sire of highly-regarded G3 winner 2yo Smart Ordine(JPN), covered 153 mares in 2012, 102 in 2013, 86 in 2014, 69 in 2015
Sadamu Patek(JPN) 2008H, freshman, covered 24 mares in 2015

-- as a broodmare sire of sires:

Your Song(AUS), 2009H. Fastnet Rock(AUS) x Zembu(AUS) by Fuji Kiseki(JPN), one of the busiest stallions in Australia, covered 166 mares in 2013.


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Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:49 am

tachyon wrote: -- as a broodmare sire of G1 winners:

Yosei(AUS) 2007M -- AJC Sire's Produce Stakes, Caulfield Thousand Guineas, Tattersals Tiara
Your Song(AUS) 2009H -- BTC Cup
Kermadec(AUS) 2011C -- Doncaster Mile, George Main Stakes
to add to the above list :D

Sound True(JPN), 2010G. French Deputy(USA) x Kyoei Truth(JPN) by Fuji Kiseki(JPN), captured his first G1 victory in the Tokyo Daishoten 2000m dirt at Ohi Racecourse on Dec 29th 2015.

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-- replay of the Tokyo Daishoten(G1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dHEywXuUM
1st 5 Sound True(JPN)(French Deputy x Kyoei Truth by Fuji Kiseki) G5 57 2.03.0
2nd 13 Hokko Tarumae(JPN)(King Kamehameha x Madam Cherokee by Cherokee Run) H6 57 2.03.3 1 3/4
3rd 4 Wonder Acute(JPN)(Charismatic x Wonder Heritage by Pleasant Tap) H9 57 2.04.5 6
4th 11 Copano Rickey(JPN) H5 57 2.04.5 NK
5th 1 Namura Victor(JPN) H6 57 2.04.6 1/2
6th 6 Happy Sprint(JPN) C4 57 2.04.9 1 1/2
7th 10 Grand City(JPN) H8 57 2.05.0 1/2
8th 7 Summit Stone(JPN) H7 57 2.05.5 2 1/2
9th 8 Keiai Leone(JPN) H5 57 2.05.6 NK
10th 12 Eurobeat(JPN) G6 57 2.05.8 1 1/4
11th 2 Pretiolas(JPN) H6 57 2.06.2 2
12th 9 Falcon Claw(JPN) H6 57 2.06.4 1
13th 14 Touch Duel(JPN) M6 55 2.09.4 DS
14th 3 Yusei Queen Sa(JPN) M5 55 2.12.3 DS

http://japanracing.jp/_news2015/151230.html
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:58 am

Peer Gynt(JPN) sired his first graded winner, when his 5yo gelding Flamboyant(FR)[o/o Relicia Bere(FR) by Until Sundown(USA)] won the G2 San Gabriel Stakes 9F turf off odss 45/1 at Santa Anita on Jan 2nd 2016.

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replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GecGPc-1LQA

Peer Gynt(JPN), 2002H. Sunday Silence(USA) x Twinkle Bride(JPN) by Lyphard(USA), is now standing at Haras de la Haie Neuve, France.
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video: highlights of Peer Gynt's racing career in Japan. he was a multiple graded winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N77z1p3swpE
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000743002/
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:36 pm

:shock: Wow, and we were just talking about stallions over at the knee... those are quite the forelegs. :?

But yay for GSW?
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lurkey mclurker wrote::shock: Wow, and we were just talking about stallions over at the knee... those are quite the forelegs. :?

But yay for GSW?
Something tells me getting your 1st graded stakes winner, from a 5yr old gelding, isn't going to add much to his stud fee ;)
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Retrospectiv wrote:
lurkey mclurker wrote::shock: Wow, and we were just talking about stallions over at the knee... those are quite the forelegs. :?

But yay for GSW?
Something tells me getting your 1st graded stakes winner, from a 5yr old gelding, isn't going to add much to his stud fee ;)
That was BIG NEWS for the Sunday Silence followers in Japan at least.
And might be so for French breeders, too.

That was nothing but a G2 win by a 5yo gelding?
But I'm sure that was ‘major’ news for a ‘minor’ stallion like Peer Gynt(JPN) who could not even have been a stallion if he had been left in Japan where the saturation of Sunday Silence blood is a serious issue.

About 6-7 years ago, there was a French breeder who introduced a group of ‘unknown’ Sunday Silence sons (including Peer Gynt) and a grandson (by Fuji Kiseki) to studs in Europe (France). And Sunday Silence fans in Japan really appreciated that move and have always been waiting for good news from overseas racings.

And now, we are very delighted by the fact that even Peer Gynt, a minor son of Sunday Silence, can sire a graded winner outside Japan, which should underscore the excellence of our beloved Sunday Silence.


In the meantime, Haras de Grandcamp (France) posted a new video of Dabirsim(FR) (Hat Trick) who relocated to France from Germany for 2016 season, recently.

video: DABIRSIM / Hat Trick, étalon au Haras de Grandcamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wilRfe_djLA

Hopefully, Flamboyant’s G2 success will add to the popularity of the Sunday Silence bloods as a whole, when breeders are keen to introduce them. ;)
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Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:24 am

-- from france-sire.com (Jan 14)

Zoom in:
''Peer Gynt is Flamboyant for 2016!''
http://www.france-sire.com/actu_cheval- ... r_2016.php

Peer Gynt(JPN)
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Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:53 pm

That's a much better picture, too... 8-)
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:38 pm

Stay Gold(JPN)
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Today (Feb 5th) is the first anniversary of his death.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:01 pm

tachyon wrote:Stay Gold(JPN)
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Today (Feb 5th) is the first anniversary of his death.
Here's hoping that Gold Ship and Orfevre as sires continue Stay Gold's legacy of producing amazingly talented and slightly insane offspring.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:45 pm

And horses who love their barn cats.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:15 pm

hadrianmarcus wrote: Here's hoping that Gold Ship and Orfevre as sires continue Stay Gold's legacy of producing amazingly talented and slightly insane offspring.
I'm pretty confident that Stay Gold sons will continue their sire's legacy.
But their babies will be very handful, too. :lol:
Like father, like son!

Gold Ship and Stay Gold
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Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:23 am

Flamboyant(FR)(Peer Gynt), an European import who won the San Gabriel (G2) and San Marcos (G2) both at Santa Anita recently, has arrived at Dubai this morning to run in the G1 Dubai Turf in two weeks representing the US. :D :D

Good luck to him!!!!

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There going to be two Sunday Silence grandsons in the Dubai Turf this year.
Real Steel(JPN)(Deep Impact) will be threre, too.
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