War Emblem to Old Friends

[BlindLucky]

I wonder if they just eventually nullify the requirement, since he won't be housed with other horses and if he ever gets out, he's clearly not going to search out any mares

Wouldn't that be a federal health requirement? I know it was required even for stallions that had never bred a mare just coming in for competition purposes.

Maybe they'll just leave him in the double-fenced paddock in permanent quarantine with the added bonus that he won't be able to eat anyone's fingers

[Katewerk]

Wouldn't that be a federal health requirement? I know it was required even for stallions that had never bred a mare just coming in for competition purposes.

Why?

[BaroqueAgain1]

"I'm curious if the 'cover 2 mares' portion of his quarantine requirements is holding things up...."

Yeah...I'm curious if that is actually a requirement, and if it is, what is the reason for it?
It seems like that could be a situation that many owners of intact-but-not-yet-actively-breeding horses might not want. Letting a stallion breed mares, but then having to get his head back into whatever his professional job is...show jumping, racing, dressage...might not be something that an owner would choose to have to deal with.

[Northport]

"I'm curious if the 'cover 2 mares' portion of his quarantine requirements is holding things up...."

Yeah...I'm curious if that is actually a requirement, and if it is, what is the reason for it?
It seems like that could be a situation that many owners of intact-but-not-yet-actively-breeding horses might not want. Letting a stallion breed mares, but then having to get his head back into whatever his professional job is...show jumping, racing, dressage...might not be something that an owner would choose to have to deal with.

I believe it is required (in North America at least) to make sure the stallion isn't carrying CEM. For a stallion like War Emblem, who is known to be stubborn/violent about covering, maybe they altered the test in some way?

I compete in showjumping and it isn't uncommon for stallions coming over from Europe, South America, etc. (for long terms competitions) to overstay their time in quarantine for 2 or 3+ weeks because they won't perform the required coverings for CEM. Luckily most quarantine barns, especially ones in major competition hubs like Wellington, FL, have the facilities for horses to stay in competition shape during their stay, but it is a pain in the butt if the stallion is due to actually compete but can't because he is stuck in quarantine.

I would like to know how it works for stallions who are only coming over for a week or even a couple of days, like for the Breeders' Cup, because obviously being kept in quarantine for an extra 2 weeks isn't an option.

[tranquilo]

If a stallion over 2YO is being permanently imported from a country affected by CEM (which Japan is), they have to go through CEM testing which involves covering two mares that are CEM free. I'm not really sure what they would have to do if he never bred those mares haha. Geld him?

IIRC unbred stallions are exempt if they're here for racing, but would have to go through the testing prior to being bred.

[Treve]

I think it's more of a "what if"... if a stallion is sexually mature and coming from a country affected by CEM, even if his intended purpose isn't to breed - what if he got loose and covered a mare/infected her?
Not like it is a particulaly high risk with War Emblem but then again... what if he suddenly feels "invigorated" by the Kentucky air ?

[BaroqueAgain1]

And that's another interesting question...what IF War Emblem suddenly...and vigorously...shows an interest in mares again?
Considering how good his too-few offspring have turned out, I imagine that someone would really want to bring him back to being an active stud again.

[Treve]

And that's another interesting question...what IF War Emblem suddenly...and vigorously...shows an interest in mares again?
Considering how good his too-few offspring have turned out, I imagine that someone would really want to bring him back to being an active stud again.

Maybe... But who? Would his Japanese connections be the one to consider standing him at X American farm?

[Flanders]

And that's another interesting question...what IF War Emblem suddenly...and vigorously...shows an interest in mares again?
Considering how good his too-few offspring have turned out, I imagine that someone would really want to bring him back to being an active stud again.

No. He is done. He just gets to be a horse now and hopefully he is happy. He never much cared about mares, I doubt he would show an interest.

[Rainyday]

And that's another interesting question...what IF War Emblem suddenly...and vigorously...shows an interest in mares again?
Considering how good his too-few offspring have turned out, I imagine that someone would really want to bring him back to being an active stud again.

I think the chances of this actually happening are something like 1 in 9,999,999,999,999...but it's a fascinating what-if, isn't it? After all, barring any unreported fertility/physical problems, he's still young enough to be an active stallion, and potentially a very valuable one. I'd be curious as to who legally owns him and whether there are legal restrictions on breeding him on the agreement that sent him to Old Friends.

...and, yeah, not going to happen. Still, interesting to think about!

[firehorse]

you never know, maybe he's partial to mares that speak English

[Flanders]

you never know, maybe he's partial to mares that speak English

That's Shadai's whole broodmare band since they are mostly North American mares.

[Sparrow Castle]

Joe Nevills ‏@DRFNevills Jan 27
War Emblem in his paddock on Monday at @Oldfriendsfarm.

[EquineAnne]

Joe Nevills ‏@DRFNevills Jan 27
War Emblem in his paddock on Monday at @Oldfriendsfarm.

Does this mean he's out of quarantine?

[oldgraymare]

Not sure but since the quarantine/medical barn fire they'll have a hard time enforcing quarantine. It's either outside in the snow or move to a different facility again. Neither situation is good for an old horse.

[lurkey mclurker]

It looks to me like he is in the quarantine paddock they built for him - the lighter colored fence inside the outer fence with the wire mesh?

[Insane Crazy]

Not sure but since the quarantine/medical barn fire they'll have a hard time enforcing quarantine. It's either outside in the snow or move to a different facility again. Neither situation is good for an old horse.

I wouldn't say the snow is terrible for him. We have plenty of "older" (he's only 16, right?) horses who live outside 24/7 and they shun society and squeal away running with glee if we try to bring 'em in. I'm sure he'll be fine, even if he would prefer being stabled.

He wasn't in the quarantine barn when it caught fire, so I'm not sure where they have him.

[CoronadosQuest]

I think he has a special quarantine paddock with possibly a run in?

[Insane Crazy]

Standing dead in the middle of his hay. Sigh. Horses.

[BaroqueAgain1]

If you had to choose between standing on cold, hard dirt or on soft, dry carpeting (AKA hay), which would you prefer?