2016 Stallion Fees

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Leading Freshmen Sire 2016 by number of winners

Poll ended at Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:12 pm

Bodemeister (Empire Maker)
10
19%
Creative Cause (Giant´s Causeway)
4
8%
Hansen (Tapit)
4
8%
Jersey Town (Speightstown)
2
4%
Shackleford (Forestry)
3
6%
Tapizar (Tapit)
4
8%
To Honor And Serve (Bernardini)
0
No votes
The Factor (War Front)
11
21%
Union Rags (Dixie Union)
11
21%
Other
3
6%
 
Total votes: 52
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:02 pm

LM at 25k x 120 mares (estimation, could be less) = $3mil. bet he could have made that on the track (and stood for more in '17). in their defense, stud fees are more guaranteed than purses.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 am

Calumet's stallions
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -stud-fees

2016 Stallion Roster and Fees
Calumet Farm
English Channel $25,000 LFSN
Oxbow $17,500 LFSN
Red Rocks $12,500 LFSN
Aikenite $7,500 LFSN
Americain $7,500 LFSN
Eye of the Leopard $7,500 LFSN
Grey Swallow $7,500 LFSN
Musketier $7,500 LFSN
Point Given $7,500 LFSN
Raison D’Etat $7,500 LFSN
Ready’s Image $7,500 LFSN
Real Solution $7,500 LFSN
Snapy Halo $7,500 LFSN

Arkansas - Trophy Club Training Center
Hightail $2,500 LFSN

Indiana - Indiana Stallion Station
Lentenor $2,000 LFSN

Ohio - Poplar Creek Horse Center
Veriformer $2,000 LFSN

Americain and Aikenite are back and Eye of the Leopard moves from Canada. They also brought Grey Swallow over from Europe. Champion 2yo in Ireland in 2003, the son of Daylami - Style of Life, by The Minstrel, won the Irish Derby(G1) and Tattersalls Gold Cup(G1). His first crop was born in 2009 and he has a G1Spw in South Africa and a Spw in Australia. From 146 foals of racing age, 49 starters, 26 winners, 0 Stakes winners. Earnings of $1,023,854 AEI: 0.65 Seems a strange addition to Kentucky at $7,500.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:13 am

Flanders wrote:Calumet's stallions
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -stud-fees

2016 Stallion Roster and Fees
Calumet Farm
English Channel $25,000 LFSN
Oxbow $17,500 LFSN
Red Rocks $12,500 LFSN
Aikenite $7,500 LFSN
Americain $7,500 LFSN
Eye of the Leopard $7,500 LFSN
Grey Swallow $7,500 LFSN
Musketier $7,500 LFSN
Point Given $7,500 LFSN
Raison D’Etat $7,500 LFSN
Ready’s Image $7,500 LFSN
Real Solution $7,500 LFSN
Snapy Halo $7,500 LFSN

Arkansas - Trophy Club Training Center
Hightail $2,500 LFSN

Indiana - Indiana Stallion Station
Lentenor $2,000 LFSN

Ohio - Poplar Creek Horse Center
Veriformer $2,000 LFSN

Americain and Aikenite are back and Eye of the Leopard moves from Canada. They also brought Grey Swallow over from Europe. Champion 2yo in Ireland in 2003, the son of Daylami - Style of Life, by The Minstrel, won the Irish Derby(G1) and Tattersalls Gold Cup(G1). His first crop was born in 2009 and he has a G1Spw in South Africa and a Spw in Australia. From 146 foals of racing age, 49 starters, 26 winners, 0 Stakes winners. Earnings of $1,023,854 AEI: 0.65 Seems a strange addition to Kentucky at $7,500.
I have come to the conclusion that most of Calumet's stallion roster choices have less to do with any sort of commercial viability than what a very wealthy and slightly eccentric racing fan thinks is good for the breed. But, hey, if they're making it work, that's cool.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:19 am

Natalma wrote:TDN has it on their FB page that Empire Maker will stand for $100k.
That's amazing.
Good for Empire Maker!!
He finally went back to the right place.

He stood for JPY 3,500,000. (about US$ 29K) for 2015 season in Japan.
And if he stayed in Japan, his fee could have been lowered for 2016.

I firmly believe that that was a great trade which created a win-win situation for both the buyer and the seller!! :D
Kudos to both the buyer and the seller!!

No one was unhappy about the deal, this time! ;)
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:45 am

Quality Road - $35,000

he did nothing this year, absolutely
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:47 pm

I heard earlier in the week they had planned to announce Pharoah's fee today. Anyone know if that's still the plan? I sure hope so!
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Acadiana wrote:I heard earlier in the week they had planned to announce Pharoah's fee today. Anyone know if that's still the plan? I sure hope so!
Planning on sending a mare to him? ;-)
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:15 pm

Admin wrote:
Acadiana wrote:I heard earlier in the week they had planned to announce Pharoah's fee today. Anyone know if that's still the plan? I sure hope so!
Planning on sending a mare to him? ;-)
Personally I'm just here to gawk at the insanity :D
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:46 pm

Coolmore Ireland (no Dylan Thomas or Thewayyouare? where'd they go?):

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Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:50 pm

Admin wrote:
Acadiana wrote:I heard earlier in the week they had planned to announce Pharoah's fee today. Anyone know if that's still the plan? I sure hope so!
Planning on sending a mare to him? ;-)
Well, if my plan of hitting the lottery shortly goes through, then yes ;-)

If nothing else, at least my mares can get me a look at him when we go down to look at some stallions for them. Munnings, FuPeg, and (I would hope) Competitive Edge would be in our price range . . .
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:54 pm

My heart flutters every time I see "Australia (Galileo - Ouija Board)"

Genuinely curious about Galileo's...or if it is a case by case basis per mare?
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:16 pm

BlindLucky wrote:Coolmore Ireland (no Dylan Thomas or Thewayyouare? where'd they go?):

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Zoffany from $12,500 euro last year (if I recall correctly) to $45000....wow.
Glen Eagles at $60,000 euro......when you can have Australia at $50,000 euro?
Mastercraftsman at 35k Euro is still a bargain. I like Starspangledbanner at 15k Euro as well.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:44 pm

Airdrie Stud announced their list. http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... tud-roster

Majesticperfection: $20,000 ($10,000)
Cairo Prince: $15,000 ($10,000)
Creative Cause: $15,000 ($15,000)
Haynesfield: $10,000 ($10,000)
Include: $10,000 ($10,000)
Summer Front: $10,000 (new)
Proud Citizen: $7,500 ($10,000)
Istan:$7,500 ($6,000)
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:21 pm

Gleneagles' fee is higher than Australia!? Does he really have a more impressive record than Australia?
It can't be pedigree...same sire and, if I had to pick between the dams, how could you not give the nod to the great Ouija Board? :P ;)
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:40 pm

BaroqueAgain1

1) better pedigree (Giant's Causeway > Ouija Board)
2) Gr1 at 2
3) and he is a miler (which is rare)
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:55 pm

Twingo wrote:BaroqueAgain1

1) better pedigree (Giant's Causeway > Ouija Board)
2) Gr1 at 2
3) and he is a miler (which is rare)
Well Ouija Board is by Cape Cross, sire of the soon to be European Horse of the Year Golden Horn and Sea The Stars who is already making a mark at stud.

Also, Derby winner vs. Guineas winner is actually a very interesting angle. I suppose a Derby winner should be more impressive but perhaps a Guineas winner may be more desirable to breeders for some reason?

Oh that reminds me, Australia was 3rd in his Guineas attempt coming awfully close to winning when facing arguably much tougher opposition than Gleneagles did so there might have been some miling ability in him.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:12 pm

Kitten's Joy stays at $100,000...sort of reasonable compared to some of the fees that have been announced.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... 00-in-2016
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:16 pm

Gainesway Announces 2016 Stud Fees
Stallion 2016 fee 2015 fee
Afleet Alex $12,500 $12,500
Afleet Express TBD
Birdstone $5,000 $5,000
Empire Maker $100,000 new to Gainesway
Hat Trick $7,500 $10,000
Karakontie $15,000 new for 2016
Tapit $300,000 $300,000
Tapizar $15,000 $15,000
To Honor and Serve $15,000 $15,000

Claire Novak ‏@BH_CNovak 1h1 hour ago
Also, from @Ramsey_Farm, Kitten's Joy's stud fee for 2016 remains unchanged at $100,000.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:29 pm

BlindLucky wrote:Coolmore Ireland (no Dylan Thomas or Thewayyouare? where'd they go?):

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Not sure about Thewayyouare, but Dylan Thomas has been standing as part of their National Hunt Division for a year or so.

Re. Calumet fees: am I the only one who thinks that Calumet management has some weird ego issues that refuses to let them stand anything for less than $7,500?
weeeeeeeee
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:36 pm

I like Gaineway's line-up. Even if you look beyond the fabulous Tapit, they have a nice mix of classic American lines, plus a couple of stallions with proven international influence.
Karakontie is by the Storm Cat stallion Bernstein, out of a Sunday Silence mare whose granddam was the great Miesque. Hat Trick is actually BY Sunday Silence.
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