2016 Stallion Fees

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Leading Freshmen Sire 2016 by number of winners

Poll ended at Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:12 pm

Bodemeister (Empire Maker)
10
19%
Creative Cause (Giant´s Causeway)
4
8%
Hansen (Tapit)
4
8%
Jersey Town (Speightstown)
2
4%
Shackleford (Forestry)
3
6%
Tapizar (Tapit)
4
8%
To Honor And Serve (Bernardini)
0
No votes
The Factor (War Front)
11
21%
Union Rags (Dixie Union)
11
21%
Other
3
6%
 
Total votes: 52
Twingo
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:45 pm

Not a fan of both, but Bernardini > Curlin for that price.

an easy choice for commercial breeders
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Afrashad
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:36 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Cape Cross €20,000 (€20,000)

I'm a little surprised that his fee didn't go up after the year that Golden Horn had. He's a pretty good deal at that price.
If you take away Golden Horn, his results for this year really aren't that great. He sired one Group 2 winner, three Group 3 winners, and seven listed stakes winners. Golden Horn's probably the only reason his fee didn't go down. Plus Cape Cross will be 22 next year.
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Northport
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:12 pm

Juddmonte UK's Fees
Frankel - £125,000 (£125,000)
Dansili - £85,000 (£100,000)
Oasis Dream - £75,000 (£75,000)
Kingman - £55,000 (£55,000)
Bated Breath - £10,000 (£10,000)
Champs Elysees - £8,000 (£10,000)
Cacique - £12,500 (£12,500)

Shadwell UK's Fees
Muhaarar - £30,000 (NEW)
Mukhadram - £7,000 (£7,000)
Nayef - £5,000 (£5,000)
weeeeeeeee
Twingo
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:32 pm

Super Saver - $65,000 ($55,000 last week)

no change for Pioneerof the Nile, probably his final price.
Admin
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:47 pm

Insanity at the stud farms...
"This is how we roll in the Shire." -- Leonard
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Treve
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:13 pm

Admin wrote:Insanity at the stud farms...
All bets are now open as to the exact moment the bubble bursts.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
Somnambulist

Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:21 pm

Treve wrote:
Admin wrote:Insanity at the stud farms...
All bets are now open as to the exact moment the bubble bursts.
2018.
Acadiana
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:54 pm

bare it all wrote:Seeing a very rumor price for Pharoah of $225k. Rumor, of course.
I saw $100-125,000 is the "rumored" fee range.
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Treve
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:44 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Treve wrote:
Admin wrote:Insanity at the stud farms...
All bets are now open as to the exact moment the bubble bursts.
2018.
Bookmarked. 8-)
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
hadrianmarcus
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:31 am

DRFBreeding is tweeting that Empire Maker will stand for $100,000.
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Insane Crazy
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:36 am

hadrianmarcus wrote:DRFBreeding is tweeting that Empire Maker will stand for $100,000.
Query for those who do this sort of thing -- if you had a mare to suit either, at the same price, would you go to EM or Curlin?

(EM seems vaguely like a steal at that price to me considering POTN's and Pharoah's potential fees, but I haven't followed his performance in Japan much)
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:21 am

hadrianmarcus wrote:DRFBreeding is tweeting that Empire Maker will stand for $100,000.
And that Tapit will stand for $300,000 again

Fees for Tally-Ho Stud (Ireland)
Kodiac - €45,000 (€25,000)
G Force - €8,000 (NEW)
Society Rock - €6,000 (€8,000)
Sir Prancealot - €5,000 (€6,000)
Zebedee - €8,000 (€10,000)
Morpheus - €5,000 (€6,000) - half to Frankel/Noble Mission/Bullet Train
Baltic King - €1,500 (€2,500)
weeeeeeeee
Vandalay
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:39 am

Super Saver - $65,000 ($55,000 last week)
Maybe they should change their name to Greedstar
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:50 am

mariasmon wrote:
TapitsGal wrote:
bare it all wrote:Seeing a very rumor price for Pharoah of $225k. Rumor, of course.
If the rumor proves true hed be up there with Tapit. Who'd pay 225k for an unproven stud? :roll:
Ghostzapper was $200k when he first retired, I believe.
true Ghostzapper stood first season for 200k, AP for 225k wouldn't be a big surprise, seems justified being a grand slam champion and every other stallion 100k and up .....
Natalma
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:15 pm

TDN has it on their FB page that Empire Maker will stand for $100k. There is also a short video of him at the farm.
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bare it all
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:36 pm

Natalma wrote:TDN has it on their FB page that Empire Maker will stand for $100k. There is also a short video of him at the farm.
Also saw it quoted by DRF in a tweet. If it's confirmed... why would anyone pay $125k for PoTN? I "get" the idea of breeding to first year Pharoah from a commercial "breed the mare and sell her i/f or sell the weanling"... but granddaddy is the overwhelmingly proven commodity here.
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:46 pm

bare it all wrote:
Natalma wrote:TDN has it on their FB page that Empire Maker will stand for $100k. There is also a short video of him at the farm.
Also saw it quoted by DRF in a tweet. If it's confirmed... why would anyone pay $125k for PoTN? I "get" the idea of breeding to first year Pharoah from a commercial "breed the mare and sell her i/f or sell the weanling"... but granddaddy is the overwhelmingly proven commodity here.
I apologize, I missed your earlier post. :) But at least it seems to be an official announcement. I think they purposefully priced him below PoTN and what AP will surely be. And yes, at this point i would rather go to EM . I think most breeders have also figured out what kind of mare suits EM best.
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Retrospectiv
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:58 pm

bare it all wrote:
Natalma wrote:TDN has it on their FB page that Empire Maker will stand for $100k. There is also a short video of him at the farm.
Also saw it quoted by DRF in a tweet. If it's confirmed... why would anyone pay $125k for PoTN? I "get" the idea of breeding to first year Pharoah from a commercial "breed the mare and sell her i/f or sell the weanling"... but granddaddy is the overwhelmingly proven commodity here.

Agreed. Kind of funny to look at POTN's fee now ;) Then again....at the current sale he's getting good Keeneland results on his weanlings. Gotta wonder how much of that is the last few months Pharoah factor and how long before that wears off....
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:42 pm

Nicole Russo ‏@DRFRusso
@LanesEndFarms announces 2016 stud fees, including newcomers Honor Code ($40,000) and Liam's Map ($25,000)

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