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Best/favorite Stud Farm in USA

Ashford Coolmore Stud
3
5%
Calumet Farm
5
9%
Claiborne Farm
7
13%
Darley
6
11%
Gainesway
5
9%
Lane's End
11
20%
Spendthrift Farm
0
No votes
Three Chimneys Farm
5
9%
WinStar Farm LLC
7
13%
Other
6
11%
 
Total votes: 55
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mariasmon
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Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:37 pm

Wesley Ward said he plans to breed Judy the Beauty to American Pharoah.

Don Alberto stated that their new purchase, Angela Renee, is likely to visit Empire Maker.

After signing for Callback, Craig Bernick mentioned Curlin as her probable mate.
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Northport
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Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:06 pm

Nice to hear Ward will be keeping Judy the Beauty, for now at least. She was supposed to sell last Fall, but I wouldnt be surprised if she goes back to auction next year in foal to Pharoah.
weeeeeeeee
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mariasmon
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Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:19 pm

Northport wrote:Nice to hear Ward will be keeping Judy the Beauty, for now at least. She was supposed to sell last Fall, but I wouldnt be surprised if she goes back to auction next year in foal to Pharoah.
He does foal shares with Coolmore. I won't be surprised to see them racing the resulting offspring in their names with WW training.
Izvestia
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Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Got Lucky to War Front for 2016
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bare it all
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:42 am

Finally a glimpse of some of the mares Pharoah will have a date with.... Not a bad lineup.

Take Charge Lady
Awesome Maria
Refugee
Untouched Talent
Storm Dixie
Ivanavinalot
Judy the Beauty
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:20 am

bare it all wrote:Finally a glimpse of some of the mares Pharoah will have a date with.... Not a bad lineup.

Take Charge Lady
Awesome Maria
Refugee
Untouched Talent
Storm Dixie
Ivanavinalot
Judy the Beauty
I like the breeding with Take Charge Lady and Untouched Talent!
Twingo
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:36 am

Glen Hiill Farm

Marketing Mix (CAN) --> War Front
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Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:48 am

Hill 'n' Dale Equine Holdings & Philip J. Steinberg

Got Lucky (A.P. Indy) --> War Front

Claiborne Farm
Don’tforgetaboutme (Malibu Moon) (half-sister to MGISP Beautician) --> War Front
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Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:17 pm

Zayat Stables Llc

Star of Goshen (dam of Pioneerof the Nile) --> Empire Maker

final cover for 21 yr old mare, according to Zayat
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Private Thoughts
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:13 pm

bare it all wrote:Take Charge Brandi --> Curlin

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ta ... n-in-2016/
:D
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:53 pm

Private Thoughts wrote:
bare it all wrote:Take Charge Brandi --> Curlin

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ta ... n-in-2016/
:D
Am I the only one who went, "Blech?"
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:38 pm

George Strawbridge

Moonlight Cloud (GB) --> Dubawi
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:15 pm

mariasmon wrote:
Private Thoughts wrote:
bare it all wrote:Take Charge Brandi --> Curlin

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ta ... n-in-2016/
:D
Am I the only one who went, "Blech?"
It's an A+ nick for whatever that's worth. Just hope Brandi is a correct mare. Though I imagine for $6m she's pretty nice to look upon.
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:44 pm

PoTN only had 4 SW this year..... With 110 foals, that is less than 4%. Breeding to him is trying to make lightning strike 2x in the same place. Of course, breeding to AP is trying to make lightning strike 1x in the same place. :)

Medaglia d'Oro and Scat Daddy each had 10% SW! Just about all the other top sires were in the 5% range. I see that Scat Daddy stood for $35k in 2015. Did I read that he has jumped to $100k for 2016? He might be worth it....

Funny how the Tapit and Scat Daddy's appear virtually out of nowhere. But Mr P and Dynaformer also came out of nowhere. I guess the hope of securing one of these future stallion stars is what keeps the stud farms fighting over the top of each retiring crop.
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:22 pm

[quote="Lord Helpus"]PoTN only had 4 SW this year..... With 110 foals, that is less than 4%. Breeding to him is trying to make lightning strike 2x in the same place. Of course, breeding to AP is trying to make lightning strike 1x in the same place. :)

Medaglia d'Oro and Scat Daddy each had 10% SW! Just about all the other top sires were in the 5% range. I see that Scat Daddy stood for $35k in 2015. Did I read that he has jumped to $100k for 2016? He might be worth it....

Funny how the Tapit and Scat Daddy's appear virtually out of nowhere. But Mr P and Dynaformer also came out of nowhere. I guess the hope of securing one of these future stallion stars is what keeps the stud farms fighting over the top of each retiring crop.[/quote]


And take that a step further, and look at the quality/type of stakes winners he had. Stakes winner in INDIA....

I know he's still a young stallion, but compared to others in that price range, well, he's got to be the biggest marketing hype over one horse since....damn, I can't remember :lol:

Crazily enough he had some weanlings bring some good prices at the November sale. I guess there's fewer cynical people than us armchair breeders at the actual sales :mrgreen:
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:57 pm

" I guess the hope of securing one of these future stallion stars is what keeps the stud farms fighting over the top of each retiring crop."

Coolmore obviously has made acquiring every intact Juvy champ for the last half dozen years a top strategy. It looks to have had mixed success.
Lookin At Lucky has turned out to be decent, Shanghai Bobby's offspring haven't made it to the track, AP will be a mystery for years, and Hansen's first foals apparently unimpressed enough that Coolmore had no problem selling him off to Korea. :?
But it looks like they may have struck gold with Uncle Mo (raise your hand if, like me, that was kind of a surprise :P), with an Eclipse Champion from his first crop. It remains to be seen whether his precocious progeny will ever succeed at the Classic distances.
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:03 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:" I guess the hope of securing one of these future stallion stars is what keeps the stud farms fighting over the top of each retiring crop."

Coolmore obviously has made acquiring every intact Juvy champ for the last half dozen years a top strategy. It looks to have had mixed success.
Lookin At Lucky has turned out to be decent, Shanghai Bobby's offspring haven't made it to the track, AP will be a mystery for years, and Hansen's first foals apparently unimpressed enough that Coolmore had no problem selling him off to Korea. :?
But it looks like they may have struck gold with Uncle Mo (raise your hand if, like me, that was kind of a surprise :P), with an Eclipse Champion from his first crop. It remains to be seen whether his precocious progeny will ever succeed at the Classic distances.
They sold Hansen before he even had foals on the ground.
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:09 pm

They did? Maybe they felt that there were too many, possibly better, Tapit sons out there who were going to dilute the demand for Hansen? Or maybe Korea just made them an offer they couldn't refu$e. ;)
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Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:49 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:They did? Maybe they felt that there were too many, possibly better, Tapit sons out there who were going to dilute the demand for Hansen? Or maybe Korea just made them an offer they couldn't refu$e. ;)
There was a buy-back clause in his sales contract that if his first foals succeed on the track here, they get him back.
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