2016 Stallion Fees
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Even though he got bumped up from last year, I have a feeling that $15,000 for Girolamo may turn out to be a bargain.
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I mean, considering that in the BC Juvenile Fillies the top two runners are his daughter and granddaughter, I'm surprised they didn't even wait until after the BC for an additional bump as a sire and broodmare sire.BlindLucky wrote: Medaglia d'Oro - $150,000
A filly named Ruffian...
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Considering what Pioneerof the Nile was standing for this season, and now next year... yes, it is practically a bargain.Northport wrote:I know $45,000 isn't exactly chump change, but Hard Spun and Street Sense seem like good deals at that price
A filly named Ruffian...
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
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Simple, 66 x 40 000$ = 2.64 million$Twingo wrote:covered only 66 mares at $40,000 in 2015. How many mares he will get in the next year for the same price? So many young exciting stallions between 15-25K.
strange decision by Darley
Even if they brought his price down to the same range as the many young exciting stallions between 15 and 25k, he may simply get more competition in the same range, less mares. At 20k, he would need to cover 132 mares to equal his 2.64 million$ earnings from 2015.
Now, if you add to the fact that he's not been doing well in sales or on the track, doubling the number of mares covered would only risk making his numbers look even more abysmal. He doesn't need more mares, he needs better suited/fitting mares if you want to have him do well - but who is gonna risk their good mares on him? I'm sure if someone has a mare that would be an exceptional match they could negotiate with Darley anyhow. But until that individual comes along, I would think Darley is simply cutting their losses and looking after their bottom line by trying to break his fall as much as possible. They aren't gonna be taking huge risks imo. It's not like their roster is dependent on his success.
A filly named Ruffian...
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
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He's also going on 23, so they probably aren't too worried if his book stays in the double digitsTreve wrote:Simple, 66 x 40 000$ = 2.64 million$Twingo wrote:covered only 66 mares at $40,000 in 2015. How many mares he will get in the next year for the same price? So many young exciting stallions between 15-25K.
strange decision by Darley
Even if they brought his price down to the same range as the many young exciting stallions between 15 and 25k, he may simply get more competition in the same range, less mares. At 20k, he would need to cover 132 mares to equal his 2.64 million$ earnings from 2015.
Now, if you add to the fact that he's not been doing well in sales or on the track, doubling the number of mares covered would only risk making his numbers look even more abysmal. He doesn't need more mares, he needs better suited/fitting mares if you want to have him do well - but who is gonna risk their good mares on him? I'm sure if someone has a mare that would be an exceptional match they could negotiate with Darley anyhow. But until that individual comes along, I would think Darley is simply cutting their losses and looking after their bottom line by trying to break his fall as much as possible. They aren't gonna be taking huge risks imo. It's not like their roster is dependent on his success.
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I think Street Boss at $12,500 is quite a deal. I doubt he will light up the sales, but I think he is going to be a useful sire type of sprinters/milers for dirt and grass. I love his pedigree (Street Cry out of an Ogygian mare) and how well he can outcross to almost all the top American pedigrees.
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from 66 mares, 20 are probably from Darley and Shadwell.Treve wrote:Simple, 66 x 40 000$ = 2.64 million$Twingo wrote:covered only 66 mares at $40,000 in 2015. How many mares he will get in the next year for the same price? So many young exciting stallions between 15-25K.
strange decision by Darley
Even if they brought his price down to the same range as the many young exciting stallions between 15 and 25k, he may simply get more competition in the same range, less mares. At 20k, he would need to cover 132 mares to equal his 2.64 million$ earnings from 2015.
I don't think he can get 60 mares for that price next year.
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Love imagining's pedigree,..since Not for Love is gone, MD needs a standout stallion, maybe he's the one...
And for what it's worth,..here's Taylor Made's 2016 fees
Astrology - $6,500
Graydar - $15,000
Northern Afleet -$ 6,500
Old Fashioned - $6,500
And for what it's worth,..here's Taylor Made's 2016 fees
Astrology - $6,500
Graydar - $15,000
Northern Afleet -$ 6,500
Old Fashioned - $6,500
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carole wrote:And now the wait begins for the fee announcement of American Pharoah. I think once that's released, Empire Maker's fee will be released too.
Depending on how Gainesway prices him, EM may be the bargain of the three. POTN's fee is outrageous, given that AP is a freak and his 2nd best performer on the year is a Gr 2 winner in INDIA. 3rd best runner won a stakes race in Indiana.....Talk about milking that one....
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Same thoughts here.Treve wrote:I mean, considering that in the BC Juvenile Fillies the top two runners are his daughter and granddaughter, I'm surprised they didn't even wait until after the BC for an additional bump as a sire and broodmare sire.BlindLucky wrote: Medaglia d'Oro - $150,000
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Sire 1, Broodmare sire 2, I wonder if they will bump his fee up or keep it at 150k.Ballerina wrote:Same thoughts here.Treve wrote:I mean, considering that in the BC Juvenile Fillies the top two runners are his daughter and granddaughter, I'm surprised they didn't even wait until after the BC for an additional bump as a sire and broodmare sire.BlindLucky wrote: Medaglia d'Oro - $150,000
A filly named Ruffian...
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder
Eine Stute namens Danedream...
Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...
Kincsem nevű kanca...
And a Queen named Beholder