Stallion News

PJMIII · Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Northport wrote:Normandy Invasion has been retired. No stud plans announced

I hope he does well in his new career.

BlindLucky · Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:19 pm

Another Tapit to stud. Race Day to Spendthrift for 2016:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... t-for-2016

BaroqueAgain1 · Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:26 pm

Race Day has a nice record, and it looks like he's is going to finish out the year with a GII race on the BC undercard. Good female family, as well.
I suspect a breeder would prefer a Tapit that is headed to the shed while still sound, over a china doll like Normandy Invasion.

Northport · Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:54 pm

So that's now 25 stallions at Spendthrift, plus 5 regional stallions. At the rate they are growing their roster, they may need to build a new stallion complex a la WinStar

Admin · Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:29 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Race Day has a nice record, and it looks like he's is going to finish out the year with a GII race on the BC undercard. Good female family, as well.
I suspect a breeder would prefer a Tapit that is headed to the shed while still sound, over a china doll like Normandy Invasion.

You know, I get a lot of the criticism about this colt, but I don't get this one. We've had what I'd consider unsound horses in our barn, but Normandy wasn't one of them. It's not inherent unsoundness that caused him to be so light of weight going into the Derby, or caused the abscess he had, or caused the lung infection. He had a single bone issue in his career, but that puts him on par with, I don't know, 50-75% of horses who will certainly get a bone issue in their career (including those who are thought of as very sound runners). He didn't require special care or babying to keep his feet and legs in good shape.

We recently retired what I'd consider an unsound horse. He constantly had feet issues, which constantly led to suspensory issues. He's been gelded and is going to his non-racing home this week, and I'm glad he won't be adding to the gene pool because I do believe his issues could've been passed on to his offspring.

I just think it's not accurate or fair to point to Normandy as "unsound" or a "china doll" when you look at what caused his training interruptions.

BaroqueAgain1 · Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:42 pm

Thank you for the insight on NI, V.
I guess that having a sesamoid problem, followed by suspensory problems in the same foot, gave me the impression that he was, technically, unsound.

tachyon · Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:11 am

Empire Maker(USA) is set to leave from Japan on October 22nd.

source: JAIRS (Japan Studbook International) (Oct 9th)

Somnambulist · Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:00 am

Admin wrote:I just think it's not accurate or fair to point to Normandy as "unsound" or a "china doll" when you look at what caused his training interruptions.

Unless you hadn't provided that info, what else are people supposed to think? That's not a knock on you. Those of use on the other side of the fence don't really know anything and it can't be held against us.

bare it all · Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:04 am

Admin wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Race Day has a nice record, and it looks like he's is going to finish out the year with a GII race on the BC undercard. Good female family, as well.
I suspect a breeder would prefer a Tapit that is headed to the shed while still sound, over a china doll like Normandy Invasion.
You know, I get a lot of the criticism about this colt, but I don't get this one. We've had what I'd consider unsound horses in our barn, but Normandy wasn't one of them. It's not inherent unsoundness that caused him to be so light of weight going into the Derby, or caused the abscess he had, or caused the lung infection. He had a single bone issue in his career, but that puts him on par with, I don't know, 50-75% of horses who will certainly get a bone issue in their career (including those who are thought of as very sound runners). He didn't require special care or babying to keep his feet and legs in good shape.

We recently retired what I'd consider an unsound horse. He constantly had feet issues, which constantly led to suspensory issues. He's been gelded and is going to his non-racing home this week, and I'm glad he won't be adding to the gene pool because I do believe his issues could've been passed on to his offspring.

I just think it's not accurate or fair to point to Normandy as "unsound" or a "china doll" when you look at what caused his training interruptions.

V - as always, thank you for sharing the insight you have. It's really a shame we don't get this sort of information on the regular about many of the horses we see go out and many we see shelved for periods of time. The "how" and "why" are kept top secret, it seems. I know this is just the nature of the business, but I think so much respect for the horsemanship of trainers, riders and barn help is lost by not sharing these tidbits about the health and care that goes into these animals. We never learn until after the fact and that's a shame. I suppose it's because of the gambling aspect of the game.

Somnambulist · Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:11 am

Why would it be because of the gambling aspect? It's an insult to bettors they aren't provided with more robust information.

They're horses. It's horse racing. This is hardly the same thing as data hacking. I've never understood the secret nature of it all.

tachyon · Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:19 am

tachyon wrote:Empire Maker(USA) is set to leave from Japan on October 22nd.

source: JAIRS (Japan Studbook International) (Oct 9th)

Empire Maker after the quarantine.

He looks great!

Somnambulist · Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:36 am

He does.

When you paper bag his neck, anyway. Yikes. Now he can come to America and get chunks.

Admin · Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:28 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Admin wrote:I just think it's not accurate or fair to point to Normandy as "unsound" or a "china doll" when you look at what caused his training interruptions.
Unless you hadn't provided that info, what else are people supposed to think? That's not a knock on you. Those of use on the other side of the fence don't really know anything and it can't be held against us.

Well, I don't know what else we could've done. We reported the cause of each setback on our website and Facebook pages, and I know the racing press reported what we did as I read many of those articles. Nothing was ever kept secret on Normandy.

tachyon · Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:21 pm

2013 Japanese Derby Winner Kizuna(JPN), 2010H. Deep Impact(JPN) x Catequil(CAN)* by Storm Cat(USA), arrived at Shadai Stallion Station on Oct 10th 2015.
He is a 1/2 to Phalaenopsis(JPN)(two-time chamion female) & Sunday Break(JPN)(stallion in France)

-- news, photos, video..
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/54 ... 57d201b999

Kizuna(JPN)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001120570/
lifetime record: 14-7-1-2

* great mare Catequil(CAN) died in 2014.

Somnambulist · Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:44 pm

Admin wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:
Admin wrote:I just think it's not accurate or fair to point to Normandy as "unsound" or a "china doll" when you look at what caused his training interruptions.
Unless you hadn't provided that info, what else are people supposed to think? That's not a knock on you. Those of use on the other side of the fence don't really know anything and it can't be held against us.
Well, I don't know what else we could've done. We reported the cause of each setback on our website and Facebook pages, and I know the racing press reported what we did as I read many of those articles. Nothing was ever kept secret on Normandy.

Sorry V, I wasn't trying to be a dick. I hate social media and don't really use any of it. I wouldn't know.

RuffiantoRags · Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:51 am

http://www.rockridgestud.com/midas-touc ... mt-con.jpg

Midas Touch moving from War Horse Place, KY to Rockridge Stud, NY

tachyon · Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:14 am

tachyon wrote:This was confirmed yesterday in a Japanese official source.

''Majestic Warrior to stand at East Stud (in Japan)''

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/dc ... dd228c0707

MW has already been represented by a Jpn1 winner Best Warrior(USA) in Japan.
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001163175/

and..

Best Warrior(USA), 2010H. Majestic Warrior(USA) x Flirtatious Miss(USA) by Mr. Greeley(USA), won the Jpn1 Mile Championship Nambu Hai 1600m dirt at Morioka back-to-back on Oct 12th 2015!!

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgz-lZccZeU
1st. (#12) Best Warrior(USA) (Majestic Warrior) H5
2nd. (#1) Tagano Tonnerre(JPN) (Came Home) G5
3rd. (#14) Wonder Acute(JPN) (Charismatic) H9

Best Warrior(USA)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001163175/
20-9-4-2

Sparrow Castle · Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:24 pm

Claiborne Farm ‏@claibornefarm 16m16 minutes ago
Claiborne Farm announces 2016 Stud Fees and introduces G1 SW Lea

Admin · Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:25 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Sorry V, I wasn't trying to be a dick. I hate social media and don't really use any of it. I wouldn't know.

I didn't think you were, and I understand your frustration. I'm just equally frustrated because we were very open and it was all reported. We don't all read all the news, nor do we all remember all the news, so I do understand.

Sparrow Castle · Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:21 pm

Bayern, winner of the 2014 Breeders' Cup Classic, will stand for $15,000 live foal at Hill 'n' Dale Farms near Lexington.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... d-at-15000