Belgrave Bloodstock

othybat_99 · Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:44 am

Ever since I bought my mare Cee Cee almost 6 years ago now in Wisconsin (my home state!), I've always wondered who previously owned and bred her. I know in the 2006 Keeneland January Sale she was bought for $1000 by a lady named Alice Campbell. I also looked up her registered name which is "C R K Cee Cee" in the JC, and found she was never raced or ever foaled out. I'm 100% sure her mom died giving birth to her since my girl has no other siblings. I found through that as well her breeder was Belgrave Bloodstock. If anyone wants to take a dive into a rabbit hole to find out more about Belgrave Bloodstock or anything else about my mare, that'd be nice.

10/18: My mare was only registered in 2011 at the age of 6, which is interesting

othybat_99 · Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:58 am

I just found her mom Othybat was training with Sir Michael Stoute for about a year Nov 2000-Dec 2001

othybat_99 · Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:51 pm

Can't find any record of my mare having a sibling

stelladaniella · Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Her dam's produce record states she has only had your horse as foal - I can't see any other coverings.

Othybat
Dark Bay or Brown Mare by Dynaformer (85) -- True At Heart (93) by Storm Cat (83) (May 19, 1999)
The produce record for "Othybat" is:
2005/02/23 C R K Cee Cee, dk b/ filly by Minardi 1998.

Othybat has an export on file; I can't see to where, maybe Flanders can if they would stumble upon this - I don't see a death report but that doesn't guarantee she's alive either, some people don't file the death reports at all. She would be 25.

brunanas · Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:52 pm

her owner's address is listed as being in GB but it doesn't necessarily mean she's there. it's as far as i can dig though

Flanders · Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:56 pm

stelladaniella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 pm Her dam's produce record states she has only had your horse as foal - I can't see any other coverings.

Othybat
Dark Bay or Brown Mare by Dynaformer (85) -- True At Heart (93) by Storm Cat (83) (May 19, 1999)
The produce record for "Othybat" is:
2005/02/23 C R K Cee Cee, dk b/ filly by Minardi 1998.

Othybat has an export on file; I can't see to where, maybe Flanders can if they would stumble upon this - I don't see a death report but that doesn't guarantee she's alive either, some people don't file the death reports at all. She would be 25.

She also has returns so she came back to the US. Her owner is listed as Belgrave Bloodstock.

othybat_99 · Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:07 pm

Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:56 pm
stelladaniella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 pm Her dam's produce record states she has only had your horse as foal - I can't see any other coverings.

Othybat
Dark Bay or Brown Mare by Dynaformer (85) -- True At Heart (93) by Storm Cat (83) (May 19, 1999)
The produce record for "Othybat" is:
2005/02/23 C R K Cee Cee, dk b/ filly by Minardi 1998.

Othybat has an export on file; I can't see to where, maybe Flanders can if they would stumble upon this - I don't see a death report but that doesn't guarantee she's alive either, some people don't file the death reports at all. She would be 25.
She also has returns so she came back to the US. Her owner is listed as Belgrave Bloodstock.

Is there a way to look where she was exported/imported to? Also thanks for the help

Flanders · Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:25 pm

No. I would assume she had gone to Great Britain because like Brunanas said that is the country on file as the owners location. But she was returned to the US or she wouldn't have a returns. This could have all been before she was bred. Or maybe she was shipped to GB to be bred and didn't get in foal. There isn't anywhere free to look at that. The US Jockey Club isn't going to show if she got bred but didn't have a foal in another country. It will only show North American breeding or live foals.

othybat_99 · Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:41 am

Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:25 pm No. I would assume she had gone to Great Britain because like Brunanas said that is the country on file as the owners location. But she was returned to the US or she wouldn't have a returns. This could have all been before she was bred. Or maybe she was shipped to GB to be bred and didn't get in foal. There isn't anywhere free to look at that. The US Jockey Club isn't going to show if she got bred but didn't have a foal in another country. It will only show North American breeding or live foals.

I think she was shipped to GB for race training, but got exported back to the US and ran here. Just figured out MG1P Midas Touch was bred by Belgrave as well. Also learned that Prince Faisal owns Belgrave as well, not 100% percent sure of who owns it.