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Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:31 pm
by brunanas
me and Flanders always like to go through the catalogues to judge conformation. last year we shared a bunch in the KEESEP thread, unfortunately i think most (if not all) links are broken now so you can no longer see them, so this year i'm saving them to Imgbb so the links remain active.
for this first post i'm going through the July Sale catalogue, not a lot of them have photos yet surprisingly (given the sale is next week) but amongst the ones that do... a lot of them look pretty bad. i will not be responsible for any damage to your eyes :P, you've been warned.
PS: i'll edit this post as they add more photos of fuglies.

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#1 (Maxfield — Abundant Flurry, by Midshipman)
sold for $220,000

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#10 (Core Beliefs — Beauty Buzz, by Bernardini)
sold for $100,000

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#12 (Rock Your World — Birdsandthebees, by Birdstone)
sold for $30,000

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#15 (Lexitonian — Breach of Duty, by Broken Vow)
sold for $60,000

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#16 (Basin — Butterfly Princess, by Wavering Monarch)
sold for $40,000

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#21 (Lexitonian — Come on Cozzenne, by Devine Cozzenne)
sold for $80,000

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#22 (Charlatan — Criminal Mischief, by Into Mischief)
sold for $100,000

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#28 (Core Beliefs — Fantastic Score, by Even the Score)
sold for $25,000

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#37 (By My Standards — Hottestthingintown, by Speightstown)
Into Mischief's OATK genes are so strong that his great-grandson has them. lovely. and that is an arabian head.
sold for $200,000

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#43 (Essential Quality — Knarsdale, by Medaglia d'Oro)
sold for $225,000

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#49 (By My Standards — Lucy in the Sky, by Caleb's Posse)
$20,000 RNA

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#52 (Core Beliefs — Mean Maggie May, by Malibu Moon)
what the fuck is up with the Core Beliefs?
sold for $25,000

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#57 (Yaupon — Moon Over Mag Bay, by Malibu Moon)
sold for $62,000

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#60 (Uncle Chuck — Nautical N, by Super Saver)
awesome seeing one by a 3-start sire and out of a 6-start mare look like this!
sold for $35,000

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#64 (Modernist — Princess Nekia, by Take Charge Indy)
$25,000 RNA

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#66 (Yaupon — Quirky, by Bernardini)
walk video
sold for $185,000

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#68 (Rock Your World — Sage Mist, by Henny Hughes)
sold for $45,000

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#71 (Tacitus — She's Boss, by Bayern)
sold for $90,000

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#79 (Maxfield — Takechargedelilah, by Take Charge Indy)
sold for $75,000

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#82 (Yaupon — Twitterpatted, by Stormy Atlantic)
sold for $285,000

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#91 (War of Will — Allyallyincomefree, by Unbridled's Song)
sold for $55,000

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#92 (More Than Ready — Amber Grace, by Elusive Quality)
(not how she's standing, the LF is crooked. walk video)
$42,000 RNA

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#94 (Bolt d'Oro — American Sugar, by Harlan's Holiday)
sold for $260,000

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#101 (Nyquist — Athenian, by Acclamation)
sold for $10,000

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#108 (Complexity — Bear It, by Majesticperfection)
sold for $250,000

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#119 (Maximus Mischief — Casting Call, by Bodemeister)
withdrawn

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#124 (Maximus Mischief — Channel Nine, by English Channel)
idk if you guys have ever seen those custom Breyer videos where people saw off a model's head and neck to glue it to a different horse. that is what this looks like. and the legs are surprisingly (too) straight for an Into Mischief-line horse, so congrats to that dam for her genes.
$45,000 RNA

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#125 (Goldencents — Chapellerie, by Acclamation)
idk what's longer proportion wise. the pasterns or the body.
sold for $20,000

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#152 (Mitole — Gibby, by Tizway)
badly over at the knee, that LF leg looks completely crooked. a shame because the markings are so pretty. and no, it's not just how he's standing (walk video).
$17,000 RNA

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#157 (Street Boss — Haka's Sister, by Declaration of War)
why. are. the. pasterns. so. long.
$10,000 RNA

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#164 (Midshipman — Hopeful Union, by Dixie Union)
$45,000 RNA

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#166 (Mitole — Im a Dixie Diva, by Henny Hughes)
$60,000 RNA

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#171 (Frosted — Just Like Pop, by Unbridled's Song)
sold for $40,000

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#174 (Practical Joke — Kitten Empress, by Kitten's Joy)
sold for $120,000

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#180 (Good Magic — La Quebrada, by More Than Ready)
$95,000 RNA

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#182 (Beau Liam — Let's Be Creative, by Creative Cause)
sold for $155,000

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#192 (Practical Joke — Midnight Girl, by Drosselmeyer)
sold for $150,000

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#194 (Shancelot — Mined Over Matter, by Mineshaft)
sold for $130,000

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#195 (Authentic — Missbigtimes, by Flatter)
withdrawn

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#196 (Connect — Miss My Rose, by Magician)
sold for $210,000

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#228 (McKinzie — Rapid Racer, by Forest Wildcat)
sold for $20,000

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#229 (Oscar Performance — Resolved, by Mizzen Mast)
sold for $60,000

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#234 (Vekoma — Scamper, by Scat Daddy)
and yeah, that's a pinfire mark. fun.
sold for $350,000

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#243 (Vekoma — Siamese, by Kitten's Joy)
sold for $100,000

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#252 (Instagrand — Still a Funny Girl, by Distorted Humor)
sold for $40,000

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#256 (Practical Joke — Summer Punch, by Candy Ride)
sold for $300,000

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#257 (Into Mischief — Sunshiny Day, by Bernardini)
typical IM legs, nothing to see here
$285,000 RNA

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#260 (Yaupon — Sweet Promises, by Bernardini)
sold for $135,000

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#269 (Mitole — Toby Girl, by Flatter)
sold for $45,000

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#275 (Quality Road — Ultimate Cause, by Giant's Causeway)
sold for $75,000

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#279 (Tiz the Law — Wait Til Dawn, by Giant's Causeway)
sold for $110,000

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#286 (Goldencents — Witch Alert, by Tiz Wonderful)
$27,000 RNA

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:48 pm
by sweettalk
i wish i had the motivation to log/track these... unfortunate looking fellas. just to see how they do despite looking like. that.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:11 pm
by Izvestia
To be fair, some of those butt high weiner dogs are growing and they are in a weird stage.

But the front legs on some of those horses are f’d. 37 and 194 are the worst. I think.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am
by PONYRCR
https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:08 am
by brunanas
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.
feel free to post 2yos too, i should've made the title something else :lol: there were a bunch of really bad 2yos this year at the OBS sales, i have to look through them again and post them too.

the one above for future reference:
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#573 by Irish War Cry. she's been named Irish Delight if anyone wants to add her to Virtual Stable for tracking.
this is what she looked like as a yearling btw.
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.... yeah.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:13 pm
by brunanas
added a bunch more.

the worst ones so far (as of the 2nd edit) are #37, #52, #60, #79, #142, #152, #194, #275 and #286.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:48 pm
by stelladaniella
brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:08 am
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.
feel free to post 2yos too, i should've made the title something else :lol: there were a bunch of really bad 2yos this year at the OBS sales, i have to look through them again and post them too.

the one above for future reference:
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#573 by Irish War Cry. she's been named Irish Delight if anyone wants to add her to Virtual Stable for tracking.
this is what she looked like as a yearling btw.
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.... yeah.
Her... front legs.. what are they doing? It almost looks like a bad photoshop [insert shocked turtle meme]

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:19 pm
by Retrospectiv
stelladaniella wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:48 pm
brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:08 am
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.
feel free to post 2yos too, i should've made the title something else :lol: there were a bunch of really bad 2yos this year at the OBS sales, i have to look through them again and post them too.

the one above for future reference:
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#573 by Irish War Cry. she's been named Irish Delight if anyone wants to add her to Virtual Stable for tracking.
this is what she looked like as a yearling btw.
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.... yeah.
Her... front legs.. what are they doing? It almost looks like a bad photoshop [insert shocked turtle meme]
THAT is over at the knees. 90% of those tagged over at the knees in the OP are not'
This filly is a travesty. What the hell happende to her in a year?!? And she's got sores on her fetlock and hock. That poor filly

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:12 pm
by brunanas
Retrospectiv wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:19 pm
stelladaniella wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:48 pm
brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:08 am

feel free to post 2yos too, i should've made the title something else :lol: there were a bunch of really bad 2yos this year at the OBS sales, i have to look through them again and post them too.

the one above for future reference:
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#573 by Irish War Cry. she's been named Irish Delight if anyone wants to add her to Virtual Stable for tracking.
this is what she looked like as a yearling btw.
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.... yeah.
Her... front legs.. what are they doing? It almost looks like a bad photoshop [insert shocked turtle meme]
THAT is over at the knees. 90% of those tagged over at the knees in the OP are not'
This filly is a travesty. What the hell happende to her in a year?!? And she's got sores on her fetlock and hock. That poor filly
i removed most of the descriptions, i agree now they might not all be OATK but still have funky legs.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:25 pm
by Akitaperson
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.

Whose the sire and dam?

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:27 pm
by Akitaperson
For a second there I thought the #1 horse was a standardbred....


I get these guys are yearlings have growing to do etc. But my gosh some of these guys are a hot mess that I wouldn't touch with a 40 foot pole

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
by brunanas
Akitaperson wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:25 pm
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.

Whose the sire and dam?
Irish War Cry — Delightfullstorm (Stormy Atlantic)

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:27 pm
by Akitaperson
brunanas wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
Akitaperson wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:25 pm
PONYRCR wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:36 am https://obscatalog.com/2024/137/573p.jpg?v=1718397819 Not a yearling but a 2 yr old at the June Ocala Breeders Sale. Sorry don't know how to get the image to post.

Whose the sire and dam?
Irish War Cry — Delightfullstorm (Stormy Atlantic)
She sold for 5k, hard to imagine with that conformation that she sold at all

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:16 am
by brunanas
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i have no words.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:25 pm
by brunanas
i have finally updated all purchase prices. here are my most ????????? results.

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#1 (Maxfield — Abundant Flurry, by Midshipman)
sold for $220,000

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#37 (By My Standards — Hottestthingintown, by Speightstown)
Into Mischief's OATK genes are so strong that his great-grandson has them. lovely. and that is an arabian head.
sold for $200,000

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#43 (Essential Quality — Knarsdale, by Medaglia d'Oro)
sold for $225,000

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#66 (Yaupon — Quirky, by Bernardini)
walk video (ETA: that leg was even worse in the ring btw.)
sold for $185,000

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#82 (Yaupon — Twitterpatted, by Stormy Atlantic)
sold for $285,000

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#94 (Bolt d'Oro — American Sugar, by Harlan's Holiday)
sold for $260,000

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#108 (Complexity — Bear It, by Majesticperfection)
sold for $250,000

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#182 (Beau Liam — Let's Be Creative, by Creative Cause)
sold for $155,000

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#194 (Shancelot — Mined Over Matter, by Mineshaft)
sold for $130,000

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#256 (Practical Joke — Summer Punch, by Candy Ride)
sold for $300,000

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#257 (Into Mischief — Sunshiny Day, by Bernardini)
typical IM legs, nothing to see here
$285,000 RNA


would love to get some opinions on the fuglies i selected :).
see you guys next month!

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:36 pm
by Diver52
I thought you were a little too harsh especially on the OATK issue but I share your amazement over, among others, the Arabian headed By My Standards and the blockheaded Yaupon. Ugh!

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:30 pm
by bare it all
This is a total masterclass of “huh…” and “HUH?!” that buyers looking for stock are willing to overlook and/or accept. Obviously some of these higher priced critters must vet and scope squeaky clean, look fantastic at the walk/trot and have pages to back them up because they aren’t winning beauty contests.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:19 pm
by brunanas
bare it all wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:30 pm This is a total masterclass of “huh…” and “HUH?!” that buyers looking for stock are willing to overlook and/or accept. Obviously some of these higher priced critters must vet and scope squeaky clean, look fantastic at the walk/trot and have pages to back them up because they aren’t winning beauty contests.
the thing is, (at least in my opinion) their walks don't even look good. or at least not that good. surely they're seeing something that we're not because i saw a bunch of these get mentioned as "beautifully built" by buyers in articles. there were a bunch of compliments given to the $220,000 Maxfield.

some of them have good (?) pages, like the one i just mentioned is from the family of Cigar. but then the arabian looking thing's page has, uh... *checks notes* zero graded stakes winners on his page. so i just don't know.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:10 am
by Katewerk
I love threads like this.

Re: Questionable Looking Yearlings

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:17 am
by Akitaperson
brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:19 pm
bare it all wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:30 pm This is a total masterclass of “huh…” and “HUH?!” that buyers looking for stock are willing to overlook and/or accept. Obviously some of these higher priced critters must vet and scope squeaky clean, look fantastic at the walk/trot and have pages to back them up because they aren’t winning beauty contests.
the thing is, (at least in my opinion) their walks don't even look good. or at least not that good. surely they're seeing something that we're not because i saw a bunch of these get mentioned as "beautifully built" by buyers in articles. there were a bunch of compliments given to the $220,000 Maxfield.

some of them have good (?) pages, like the one i just mentioned is from the family of Cigar. but then the arabian looking thing's page has, uh... *checks notes* zero graded stakes winners on his page. so i just don't know.

It always has mystified me how much money this untried untested yearlings sell for. Yeah they can have graded winners in there bloodlines or bred in the purple but that doesn't mean much. Each horse is an individual