Horse Racing Forum - USA Thoroughbred Races

can we discuss some of the weirdest/most obscure lines you've seen on a thoroughbred? like sires/grandsires/damsires etc. you had absolutely never heard of. i love going through small regional tracks and finding some who are "popular" in those tracks but i had otherwise never heard of.
my best friend has a gelding by Rushin' to Altar. we like to joke he is Pulpit's best sire son

Only one that comes to mind right off was this gelding that ran in Oklahoma back in the 90's. Betty's Henry G (Shelly's Monie x Sub Call). Bad, BAD racehorse. Only reason I remember him is that I once put him in my trifecta by accident. Really lucked out that he ran second, since his record was 75/1-2-5.

There were always a couple obscurely bred homebreds at the Barretts sales.

I suppose I should say, "Never heard of any of these horses", aside from possibly Tactical Advantage and Copelan. But look what Shocktics did in Venezeula!

SHOCKTICS(USA), bay 2020 (Tactical Advantange(USA)-Blue Shocker(USA), by Copelan(USA) #1h
dam of:
Max Security(VEN), brown colt 2018 (Yesbyjimminy(USA) Clasico Republica Venezuela (Venezuela Derby)
MI QUERIDA EMMA(VEN), chestnut filly 2020 (Yesbyjimminy(USA) - Clasico Hipodromo la Rinconada, Clasico Prensa Hipica Nacional, Clasico General Joaquin Crespo (Venezuelan Filly Triple Crown)

Who the heck is Yesbyjimminy, you ask? Beats me, too, but he was a respectable stakes-winner in Florida.

~Miesque

There are quite a few in the Pedigree Talk thread.

I just saw this one. The oldest living Thoroughbred in the US and maybe the world, New Years Eve. Born in 1986 (Night Conqueror - Verein, by Amber Morn). Never heard of his sire before and makes sense as he only had 17 foals, 12 starts, 9 winners, no stakes winners, earners of $35,802. Night Conqueror was placed in 11 starts.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... found-him/

There is a gelding named Lemon Sushi that currently races in California. He is only one of 11 foals from a sire named Sushiwood, who is a son of Forestry.

Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:34 pm There are quite a few in the Pedigree Talk thread.

I just saw this one. The oldest living Thoroughbred in the US and maybe the world, New Years Eve. Born in 1986 (Night Conqueror - Verein, by Amber Morn). Never heard of his sire before and makes sense as he only had 17 foals, 12 starts, 9 winners, no stakes winners, earners of $35,802. Night Conqueror was placed in 11 starts.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... found-him/

A lot of these super elderly TBs we hear about have obscure pedigrees.

I've been hoping to see TDN do an update on Roxie's Ringer (who was 38 in 2018, at the time the oldest known living TB) and surely he is deceased by now. I think I even sent an email asking about it and got no response.

Mylute wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:24 am

Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:34 pm There are quite a few in the Pedigree Talk thread.

I just saw this one. The oldest living Thoroughbred in the US and maybe the world, New Years Eve. Born in 1986 (Night Conqueror - Verein, by Amber Morn). Never heard of his sire before and makes sense as he only had 17 foals, 12 starts, 9 winners, no stakes winners, earners of $35,802. Night Conqueror was placed in 11 starts.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... found-him/

A lot of these super elderly TBs we hear about have obscure pedigrees.

I've been hoping to see TDN do an update on Roxie's Ringer (who was 38 in 2018, at the time the oldest known living TB) and surely he is deceased by now. I think I even sent an email asking about it and got no response.

Barbara Livingstone had posted a reply to the story on twitter and said that if New Years Eve lived to 39 he would tie Dead Solid Perfect's record. No mention of Roxie's Ringer so he might have passed later the year the article was posted in 2018. But I can't find anything at all. The only thing searching his name brings up is the original article.

There was a Japanese racehorse that lived to 40 or 41 recently IIRC.

New Years Eve is 38 but looks 28 or younger.

Yeah she was talking about US record only. In the replies she talked about an Australian thoroughbred, Tango Duke, that supposedly held the record. I don't remember how old he lived to. But no one could prove if he actually was a thoroughbred. There was never a thoroughbred named that and even the Australian Jockey Club got involved and said the only closely named horse was Tango Lad but he was born in the 1930s.