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the Jockey Club has released the 2022 Report of Mares Bred.
https://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp? ... letter=all

First year sires:
Yaupon - 242 (Spendthrift)
Charlatan - 222 (Hill 'n' Dale)
Rock Your World - 219 (Spendthrift)
Independence Hall - 202 (WinStar)
Tacitus - 188 (Taylor Made)
Silver State - 171 (Claiborne)
Known Agenda - 166 (Spendthrift)
Maxfield - 163 (Darley)
Beau Liam - 162 (Airdrie)
Essential Quality - 162 (Darley)
Knicks Go - 151 (Taylor Made)
Modernist - 142 (Darby Dan)
Uncle Chuck - 133 (Journeyman)
Raging Bull - 121 (Gainesway)
By My Standards - 106 (Spendthrift)
Mo Forza - 99 (Rancho San Miguel)
Basin - 93 (Spendthrift)
Code of Honor - 92 (Lane's End)
Lexitonian - 90 (Lane's End)
Rushie - 30 (Pleasant Acres)
Sleepy Eyes Todd - 28 (Swifty Farms)
No Parole - 26 (Whispering Oaks)

Stallions with 200+ mares bred:
Gun Runner - 248 (Three Chimneys)
Yaupon - 242 (Spendthrift)
Mendelssohn - 230 (Ashford)
Practical Joke - 227 (Ashford)
Not This Time - 225 (Taylor Made)
Charlatan - 222 (Hill 'n' Dale)
Rock Your World - 219 (Spendthrift)
Mo Town - 218 (Ashford)
Tiz the Law - 218 (Ashford)
Omaha Beach - 205 (Spendthrift)
Authentic - 202 (Spendthrift)
Independence Hall - 202 (WinStar)
Into Mischief - 202 (Spendthrift)
Mitole - 202 (Spendthrift)
Munnings - 201 (Ashford)
Maclean's Music - 200 (Hill 'n' Dale)

Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I took the other Kentucky stallions that went to stud in 2021, the 2nd number is their 2021 mares bred. All dropped but one, some way more than HAP. The ones that didn't drop a ton were the ones who were the speedballs and Champions. I'm sure LE would have preferred he got more mares but there is really nothing LE can do about it. They only own so many mares and have other stallions to support. Plus they are a commercial breeder so of course they are going to send their best mares to proven stallions to sell the future foals. Their other 2021 stallions also dropped and neither of their new 2022 stallions got huge books. Then they have Catalina Cruiser's whose first crop is 2yos next year, his numbers have dropped to 1/2 of what he bred his first year. And they made the deal to bring Daredevil back and he only covered 76 mares in 2022. Most stallions biggest books are going to be their first one until their foals are old enough to race.

Authentic - 202 (229)
Bravazo - 8 (22)
Caracaro - 72 (76)
Complexity - 124 (158)
Country House - 31 (58)
Echo Town - 87 (93)
Game Winner - 131 (157)
Gift Box - 77 (112)
Higher Power - 103 (152)
Honor A.P. - 81 (110)
Improbable - 157 (177)
Instagrand - 141 (190)
Maximum Security - 100 (135)
McKinzie - 171 (214)
Promises Fulfilled - 17 (61)
Rowayton - 23 (46)
Shancelot - No RMB submitted (64)
Spun To Run - 66 (119)
Thousand Words - 121 (184)
Tiz The Law - 218 (159) - only one that improved his numbers
Toms d'Etat - 89 (116)
Vekoma - 196 (222)
Volatile - 157 (181)
War of Will - 112 (143)
Yorkton - 47 (54)

Lane's End new for 2022 stallions:
Code of Honor - 99
Lexitonian - 90

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

Exactly, you said it way shorter than I did. hahahha

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

i suppose she meant LE owned mares. i think they own mares, right?

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:51 am the Jockey Club has released the 2022 Report of Mares Bred.
https://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp? ... letter=all

First year sires:
Code of Honor - 92 (Spendthrift)

Code of Honor is at Lane’s End.

Kentucky stallions with small books (I didn't include ones that I never heard of before):

Accelerate - 46
Afleet Alex - 2 (I thought he was pensioned before the breeding season)
Alternation - 46
Always Dreaming - 36
American Freedom - 12
Astern(AUS) - 60 - is not returning to Kentucky
Atta Boy Roy - 10 - didn't even know he had moved to Kentucky from Washington
Bal a Bali(BRZ) - 12
Big Blue Kitten - 2
Bravazo - 8
Brody's Cause - 35 - sent to Pennsylvania
Coal Front - 38
Copper Bullet - 14
Core Beliefs - 36
Country House - 31
Creative Cause - 28
Divisidero - 22
Dolphus - 8 - never understood why he was in Kentucky to begin with
Firing Line - 23
First Samurai - 32
Flatter - 40 - died during breeding season
Free Drop Billy - 41
Funtastic - 23
Get Stormy - 9 - died during breeding season
Heart to Heart - 32
Hightail - 24
Hit It A Bomb - 53 - not in Kentucky in 2023
Honor Code - 44
Instilled Regard - 23
Jack Milton - 9
Karakontie (JPN) - 48 - I hope these stallions starts to get respect at some point
Kitten's Joy - 52 - died during breeding season
Lea - 4
Leofric - 32
Lookin At Lucky - 54
Lost Treasure (IRE) - 5
Mastery - 7
McCraken -6
Midnight Lute - 47
Midnight Storm - 35 - moved to California for 2023
Mineshaft - 38
Mohaymen - 18
Mshawish - 19 - not on Taylor Made roster for 2023
Mucho Macho Man - 35
Optimizer - 6
Outwork - 28
Oxbow - 27
Palace Malice - 12
Preservationist - 36
Promises Fulfilled - 17
Protonico - 36
Ransom the Moon - 26
Rowayton - 23
Sharp Azteca - 37
Sky Mesa - 31
Tale of Ekati - 24
Tale of Verve - 12
Texas Red - 4
The Factor - 52 - this number might be the most surprising to me of the list. Was it his year in Japan that hurt his mares bred? He stood there for his current 3yo crop.
The Player - 6 - he has never got a lot but wanted to include him
Tourist - 4
True Timber - 2 - oof? this was his first year at stud
West Coast - 55
Will Take Charge - 21 - surprised he got that many
World of Trouble - 27
Yorkton - 47
Yoshida (JPN) - 50 - I really hope he does well at stud

Unraced but the only one of his kind in the world - Very Cool (American Pharoah/Seattle Slew) got 23 mares in Oklahoma.

Him as a yearling: https://vimeo.com/472517103 (Sold for $12K)

HB1994 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:23 pm

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:51 am the Jockey Club has released the 2022 Report of Mares Bred.
https://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp? ... letter=all

First year sires:
Code of Honor - 92 (Spendthrift)

Code of Honor is at Lane’s End.

ooops, i was copy and pasting and forgot to change that. thanks for the heads up

my favorite named stallion ever, The Daddy, got 6 mares in Louisiana. i saw him as a damsire on a MRH racehorse once.

also, Nyquist's unraced full brother, Moquest, got 23 mares in California. he's an unraced 3yo.

he sold for $650,000 as a yearling to Magnier and then resold for $12,000 last year at KEENOV.
https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Resul ... registry=T

I saw that Linchpin, a full brother to Quality Road is in Kentucky and bred 11 mares. He was unplaced in 2 starts. He had been standing in Washington covering mares from 2015-2020 and didn't cover mares in 2021. I can't find where he is in Kentucky though. 2022 was his first year in Kentucky.

Stats: 56 foals of racing age, 29 starters, 19 winners, 1 SW.

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

I don’t mean to blame LE...I frustrated because I don’t understand the lack of support.

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

i suppose she meant LE owned mares. i think they own mares, right?

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Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:52 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I mean they can't make people give mares to him.

Exactly, you said it way shorter than I did. hahahha

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Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:51 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:42 am Still can’t believe HAP at 81....that ticks me off. I guess he’s being penalized for his sire. I expected much more, especially from LE

I took the other Kentucky stallions that went to stud in 2021, the 2nd number is their 2021 mares bred. All dropped but one, some way more than HAP. The ones that didn't drop a ton were the ones who were the speedballs and Champions. I'm sure LE would have preferred he got more mares but there is really nothing LE can do about it. They only own so many mares and have other stallions to support. Plus they are a commercial breeder so of course they are going to send their best mares to proven stallions to sell the future foals. Their other 2021 stallions also dropped and neither of their new 2022 stallions got huge books. Then they have Catalina Cruiser's whose first crop is 2yos next year, his numbers have dropped to 1/2 of what he bred his first year. And they made the deal to bring Daredevil back and he only covered 76 mares in 2022. Most stallions biggest books are going to be their first one until their foals are old enough to race.

Authentic - 202 (229)
Bravazo - 8 (22)
Caracaro - 72 (76)
Complexity - 124 (158)
Country House - 31 (58)
Echo Town - 87 (93)
Game Winner - 131 (157)
Gift Box - 77 (112)
Higher Power - 103 (152)
Honor A.P. - 81 (110)
Improbable - 157 (177)
Instagrand - 141 (190)
Maximum Security - 100 (135)
McKinzie - 171 (214)
Promises Fulfilled - 17 (61)
Rowayton - 23 (46)
Shancelot - No RMB submitted (64)
Spun To Run - 66 (119)
Thousand Words - 121 (184)
Tiz The Law - 218 (159) - only one that improved his numbers
Toms d'Etat - 89 (116)
Vekoma - 196 (222)
Volatile - 157 (181)
War of Will - 112 (143)
Yorkton - 47 (54)

Lane's End new for 2022 stallions:
Code of Honor - 99
Lexitonian - 90

Wow, this puts it in perspective. I love LE, I just worded it badly - I wasn’t trying to blame them. They’re extremely good at supporting their stallions.

Do you think that’s just a function of 2nd year sires? As to Tiz, maybe his numbers increased because Constitution is too expensive ?

Major farms:

Ashford:
Mendelssohn - 230
Practical Joke - 227
Mo Town - 218
Tiz the Law - 218
Munnings - 201
Cupid - 174
Uncle Mo - 160
Justify - 148
American Pharoah - 145
Maximum Security - 100
Echo Town - 87
Lookin at Lucky - 54

Claiborne:
Silver State - 171
Runhappy - 144
Blame - 124
War of Will - 112
War Front - 76
Catholic Boy - 65
Demarchelier - 41
Flatter - 40 (died in May)
First Samurai - 32
Mastery - 7
Lea - 4

Darley:
Maxfield - 163
Essential Quality - 162
Hard Spun - 161
Nyquist - 161
Midshipman - 138
Street Sense - 134
Medaglia d'Oro - 115
Frosted - 108
Enticed - 93

Gainesway:
McKinzie - 171
Raging Bull - 121
Tapit - 98
Tapwrit - 72
Spun to Run - 66
Karakontie - 48
Afleet Alex - 2 (pensioned)

Hill 'n' Dale:
Charlatan - 222
Maclean's Music - 200
Violence - 148
Good Magic - 136
Curlin - 135
Army Mule - 115
Kantharos - 83
Ghostzapper - 81
Midnight Lute - 47
Mucho Macho Man - 35
World of Trouble - 27
Lost Treasure - 5

Lane's End:
Liam's Map - 177
Twirling Candy - 176
Connect - 172
Quality Road - 156
Candy Ride - 132
City of Light - 132
Game Winner - 131
Union Rags - 115
Code of Honor - 92
Lexitonian - 90
Tonalist - 87
Honor A.P. - 81
Gift Box - 77
Unified - 77
Daredevil - 76
Catalina Cruiser - 72
West Coast - 55
The Factor - 52
Accelerate - 46
Honor Code - 44
Mineshaft - 38

Spendthrift:
Yaupon - 242
Rock Your World - 219
Omaha Beach - 205
Authentic - 202
Into Mischief - 202
Mitole - 202
Vekoma - 196
Maximus Mischief - 195
Bolt d'Oro - 174
Cloud Computing - 166
Known Agenda - 166
Vino Rosso - 143
Goldencents - 139
Mor Spirit - 134
Thousand Words - 121
By My Standards - 106
Basin - 93
Jimmy Creed - 93
Gormley - 74
Temple City - 63
Hit it a Bomb - 53 (moved)
Free Drop Billy - 44
Coal Front - 38
Cross Traffic - 36
Brody's Cause - 35 (moved)

Three Chimneys:
Gun Runner - 248
Volatile - 157
Sharp Azteca - 37
Sky Mesa - 31
Will Take Charge - 21
Palace Malice - 12

WinStar:
Independence Hall - 202
Constitution - 185
Improbable - 157
Audible - 148
Take Charge Indy - 100
Speightstown - 89
Tom's d'Etat - 89
Global Campaign - 87
Good Samaritan - 84
Paynter - 69
Yoshida - 50
Always Dreaming - 36
Outwork - 28
Promises Fulfilled - 17
Tourist - 4

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:10 pm As to Tiz, maybe his numbers increased because Constitution is too expensive ?

i believe it has a lot to do with the fact he came in late for the 2021 season. he wasn't retired until late December/early January and i have a feeling i read somewhere he didn't start breeding until late February last year - which is why he didn't shuttle as planned -, and that would explain a smaller book then.

Its just what happens every year. Almost all stallions drop their 2nd years and continue to drop in books through their 4th, there might be a few that increase but its not the norm. Commercial breeders that sell their yearlings are on to the new stallions. Because by the time the 2nd crop reaches the sales, the first crop 2yos would already be racing and sometimes the judgement (way to early) is out already. By the time the 3rd crop reaches the auction the judgement will have been made by buyers. The only thing that changes this sometimes is if their first crop yearlings sell incredibly well.

Like Brunanas said Tiz The Law retired late, I mean still before the breeding season but he was supposed to race at 4. There could have been breeders who wanted to use him but had already signed contracts on their mares to other stallions. So it could a combination of that and Constitution's increased fee and really good progeny results and yearling auctions.