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Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:58 pm**

This is not a drill! The Keeneland September Sale catalog is up

https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:30 pm**

Enjoy my semi-deep dig. Session 1 is bursting with pedigrees so I did try to narrow down who I posted here... perhaps unsuccessfully

I bolded the dams that were G1Ws themselves.

hip 1 : Medaglia d'Oro x Pauline Revere (dam is half to American Theorem, Mighty Carolina)
hip 2 : Into Mischief x Peggy Jane
hip 6 : Tapit x Points of Grace (half to G1W Victory to Victory)
hip 8 : Quality Road x Princess Silvia (dam is half to Saint Liam, Quiet Giant)
hip 13 : Curlin x Quiet Flirt (dam is half to Gun Runner)
hip 15 : Ghostzapper x Red Ruby (dam is GSW and half to Mo Tom, Beautician)
hip 17 : Gun Runner x Renee's Queen (dam is SW and half to American Theorem, Mighty Carolina)
hip 19 : Omaha Beach x Riley's Choice (dam is half to Sharing, 2nd dam is Shared Account)
hip 23 : Tapit x Ruby Lips (half to Lone Rock, Gerrymander)
hip 25 : Medaglia d'Oro x Sarcristy (dam is GSW and half to G1W Mozu Superflare)
hip 27 : City of Light x Sam's Sister
hip 33 : Quality Road x Sea Gull (half to Catalina Crusier, Royal Flag, Eagle)
hip 36 : Curlin x Seperationofpowers
hip 37 : War Front x Shamrock Rose
hip 38 : Speightstown x Shared Account
hip 43 : Gun Runner x Singwiththebirds (dam is half to Up With The Birds, 3rd dam is Wilderness Song)
hip 48 : Omaha Beach x Smooth Performer (half to Into Trouble, 2nd dam is Smooth Player)
hip 51 : Tapit x Songbird
hip 52 : Into Mischief x Song of Spring (family of Dream Rush, Dreaming of Julia, Malathaat)
hip 54 : Into Mischief x Southern Ring (dam is SW)
hip 56 : Street Sense x Spellbound (half to Soothsay, family of Justify, dam is GSW)
hip 60 : Curlin x Stage Magic (half to Justify, The Lieutenant, dam is SW)
hip 65 : War Front x Sundaysatthebeach (2nd dam is Ask The Moon)
hip 66 : Connect x Sustained (half to Etheral Road, Turned Aside)
hip 68 : Curlin x Sweet Assassin (dam is full to Cupid)
hip 69 : Omaha Beach x Sweet Awakening (half to Are You Kidding Me, Core Values)
hip 70 : Audible x Taboo (half to Creative Cause, Vexatious, 2nd dam is Dream of Summer)
hip 72 : American Pharoah x Taylor S (dam is SW, 2nd dam is Miss Macy Sue)
hip 74 : Curlin x Teen Pauline (dam is GSW)
hip 75 : Into Mischief x Tenacious Jewel (2nd dam is Bizzy Caroline)
hip 80 : Quality Road x Theycallmeladyluck (half to Salty)
hip 84 : Into Mischief x Tiger Moth (dam is GSW and half to Last Gunfighter)
hip 85: American Pharoah x Time and Motion
hip 86 : Quality Road x Tin Type Gal (dam is MGSW, 2nd dam is Miss Shop)
hip 88 : Constitution x Tizahit (half to Come Dancing, dam is GSW)
hip 96 : American Pharoah x Trensa (half to Hawkbill, Free Drop Billy)
hip 101 : Gun Runner x Untapable
hip 103 : Gun Runner x Usrah (2nd dam is Serena's Sister)
hip 104 : Into Mischief x Vanquised (half to Takeover Target, dam is half to Critical Eye)
hip 106 : Into Mischief x Velvet Mood (dam is half to Wicked Whisper, Point of Honor)
hip 115 : Uncle Mo x White Hot (half to Pizza Bianca)
hip 117 : Into Mischief x Wildwood Rose (dam is half to Materality, My Miss Sophia)
hip 120 : Quality Road x Yellow Agate
hip 122 : Justify x Above Perfection (half to Always Dreaming, Hot Dixie Chick, Positive Spirit)
hip 123 : Omaha Beach x Achalaya (half to Casa Creed, Chees's Dream)
hip 124 : American Pharoah x Achieved (dam is half to Bounding, Anthony Van Dyck)
hip 128 : Union Rags x Alchemist (half to Far From Over, Analyze)
hip 129 : Justify x Aloof (dam is GSW)
hip 130 : Speightstown x Always On My Mind (dam is half to Tamarkuz, Without Parole)
hip 132 : Curlin x American Gal
hip 133 : Curlin x American Story (dam of Americal Gal, Americanize)
hip 134 : Constitution x Amour d'Ete (half to Early Voting, dam is full to Irap, half to Speightstown)
hip 136 : Quality Road x Anonymity (dam is half to Hansen)
hip 139 : Candy Ride x Appealing Bride (half to Appealing Tale, Colorful Bride)
hip 140 : Into Mischief x Artemis Agrotera (half to Chestertown)
hip 141 : Quality Road x Aspen Light (half to Owendale)
hip 142 : American Pharoah x A Star is Born (half to Fleet Review, dam is full to Rip Van Winkle)
hip 145 : Justify x A Z Warrior
hip 147 : Curlin x Baffled (dam of Constitution, Boynton)
hip 151 : Gun Runner x Bella Rafaela (dam is half to Twirling Candy, Ethnic Dance)
hip 154 : Candy Ride x Best Performance
hip 156 : War Front x Black Dynamite (dam is half to Killer Graces, Chocolate Ride)
hip 158 : Curlin x Bounding
hip 160 : Kitten's Joy x Broken Dreams (half to Caribou Club, dam is GSW)
hip 163 : Into Mischief x Bubbler (half to Arrogate, Osare)
hip 164 : Justify x Butterflies (2nd dam is Mariah's Storm)
hip 168 : Constitution x Caribbean Babe (dam is half to Independence Hall, Black Onyx)
hip 169 : Curlin x Carina Mia
hip 173 : Curlin x Cathryn Sohpia
hip 174 : Medaglia d'Oro x Centre Court
hip 175 : Candy Ride x Charm the Maker (half to Rock Your World)
hip 177 : Curlin x Cherry Lodge (dam is GSW, full to Gala Award, half to Stormello, My Best Brother)
hip 179 : Preservationist x Church By The Sea (half to Significant Form, Hay Dakota)
hip 181 : Into Mischief x Conquering (2nd dam is Take Charge Lady)

What a stellar first session! I skipped over several pedigrees that would have been the stars of other sales!

And isn't it something that Songbird, Cathryn Sophia, and Carina Mia all have yearlings entered in the same sale?

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:24 pm**

Most notable from day 2/3:
196 - Quality Road x Dacita
197 - Galileo x Daddyslildarling (only Galileo in the sale)
201 - Into Mischief x Dance to Bristol
220 - Medaglia d'Oro x Dreaming of Julia
222 - Justify x Dream of Summer
223 - Bernardini x Dream Rush
239 - Curlin x Exotic Bloom (1/2 to Stopchargingmaria)
243 (Eagles Flight) - Curlin x Feathered (1/2 to Flightline)
247 (Awesome) - Into Mischief x Flawless (full to Authentic)
261 - Curlin x Glinda the Good (full to Good Magic)
264 - Medaglia d'Oro x Grace Hall
269 - Quality Road x Hard Not to Like
280 - Constitution x Hot Dixie Chick
282 - Curlin x Icon Project
283 - Union Rags x I'm a Flake (full to Express Train)
287 - Into Mischief x Iotapa
289 - Uncle Mo x Issues (1/2 to Accelerate)
296 - Quality Road x Justwhistledixie (1/2 to New Years' Day, Mohaymen, etc)
305 - Ghostzapper x Kosmo's Buddy (1/2 to Knicks Go)
312 - Into Mischief x Late Night Pow Wow (WV-bred royalty!)
353 - Curlin x Mythical Bride (full to Vino Rosso)
354 - Tapit x My Tina (1/2 to Midnight Storm)
408 - Omaha Beach x R Heat Lightning
420 - Justify x Sambuca Classica (1/2 to Classic Empire)
493 - American Pharoah x Tokyo Time (1/2 to Olympiad)
536 - Justify x Apt (1/2 to Carve)
551- Medaglia d'Oro x Belvoir Bay
625 - More than Ready x Eblouissante

California Chrome's 1/2 brother by Medaglia d'Oro is allll the way down in session 7 (#2313)
Life Is Sweet's filly by Uncle Mo is in session 9 (#3132)

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:42 pm**

222 - Justify x Dream of Summer

Colt or filly? If he/she has four fairly straight legs, I can imagine that the the bids will climb into the rafters....maybe more because of the dam than the sire. Famous as Justify may be, Dream of Summer is a blue hen mare.

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:01 pm**

KatieK101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:30 pm Enjoy my semi-deep dig. Session 1 is bursting with pedigrees so I did try to narrow down who I posted here... perhaps unsuccessfully I bolded the dams that were G1Ws themselves.

hip 1 : Medaglia d'Oro x Pauline Revere (dam is half to American Theorem, Mighty Carolina)
hip 2 : Into Mischief x Peggy Jane
hip 6 : Tapit x Points of Grace (half to G1W Victory to Victory)
hip 8 : Quality Road x Princess Silvia (dam is half to Saint Liam, Quiet Giant)
hip 13 : Curlin x Quiet Flirt (dam is half to Gun Runner)
hip 15 : Ghostzapper x Red Ruby (dam is GSW and half to Mo Tom, Beautician)
hip 17 : Gun Runner x Renee's Queen (dam is SW and half to American Theorem, Mighty Carolina)
hip 19 : Omaha Beach x Riley's Choice (dam is half to Sharing, 2nd dam is Shared Account)
hip 23 : Tapit x Ruby Lips (half to Lone Rock, Gerrymander)
hip 25 : Medaglia d'Oro x Sarcristy (dam is GSW and half to G1W Mozu Superflare)
hip 27 : City of Light x Sam's Sister
hip 33 : Quality Road x Sea Gull (half to Catalina Crusier, Royal Flag, Eagle)
hip 36 : Curlin x Seperationofpowers
hip 37 : War Front x Shamrock Rose
hip 38 : Speightstown x Shared Account
hip 43 : Gun Runner x Singwiththebirds (dam is half to Up With The Birds, 3rd dam is Wilderness Song)
hip 48 : Omaha Beach x Smooth Performer (half to Into Trouble, 2nd dam is Smooth Player)
hip 51 : Tapit x Songbird
hip 52 : Into Mischief x Song of Spring (family of Dream Rush, Dreaming of Julia, Malathaat)
hip 54 : Into Mischief x Southern Ring (dam is SW)
hip 56 : Street Sense x Spellbound (half to Soothsay, family of Justify, dam is GSW)
hip 60 : Curlin x Stage Magic (half to Justify, The Lieutenant, dam is SW)
hip 65 : War Front x Sundaysatthebeach (2nd dam is Ask The Moon)
hip 66 : Connect x Sustained (half to Etheral Road, Turned Aside)
hip 68 : Curlin x Sweet Assassin (dam is full to Cupid)
hip 69 : Omaha Beach x Sweet Awakening (half to Are You Kidding Me, Core Values)
hip 70 : Audible x Taboo (half to Creative Cause, Vexatious, 2nd dam is Dream of Summer)
hip 72 : American Pharoah x Taylor S (dam is SW, 2nd dam is Miss Macy Sue)
hip 74 : Curlin x Teen Pauline (dam is GSW)
hip 75 : Into Mischief x Tenacious Jewel (2nd dam is Bizzy Caroline)
hip 80 : Quality Road x Theycallmeladyluck (half to Salty)
hip 84 : Into Mischief x Tiger Moth (dam is GSW and half to Last Gunfighter)
hip 85: American Pharoah x Time and Motion
hip 86 : Quality Road x Tin Type Gal (dam is MGSW, 2nd dam is Miss Shop)
hip 88 : Constitution x Tizahit (half to Come Dancing, dam is GSW)
hip 96 : American Pharoah x Trensa (half to Hawkbill, Free Drop Billy)
hip 101 : Gun Runner x Untapable
hip 103 : Gun Runner x Usrah (2nd dam is Serena's Sister)
hip 104 : Into Mischief x Vanquised (half to Takeover Target, dam is half to Critical Eye)
hip 106 : Into Mischief x Velvet Mood (dam is half to Wicked Whisper, Point of Honor)
hip 115 : Uncle Mo x White Hot (half to Pizza Bianca)
hip 117 : Into Mischief x Wildwood Rose (dam is half to Materality, My Miss Sophia)
hip 120 : Quality Road x Yellow Agate
hip 122 : Justify x Above Perfection (half to Always Dreaming, Hot Dixie Chick, Positive Spirit)
hip 123 : Omaha Beach x Achalaya (half to Casa Creed, Chees's Dream)
hip 124 : American Pharoah x Achieved (dam is half to Bounding, Anthony Van Dyck)
hip 128 : Union Rags x Alchemist (half to Far From Over, Analyze)
hip 129 : Justify x Aloof (dam is GSW)
hip 130 : Speightstown x Always On My Mind (dam is half to Tamarkuz, Without Parole)
hip 132 : Curlin x American Gal
hip 133 : Curlin x American Story (dam of Americal Gal, Americanize)
hip 134 : Constitution x Amour d'Ete (half to Early Voting, dam is full to Irap, half to Speightstown)
hip 136 : Quality Road x Anonymity (dam is half to Hansen)
hip 139 : Candy Ride x Appealing Bride (half to Appealing Tale, Colorful Bride)
hip 140 : Into Mischief x Artemis Agrotera (half to Chestertown)
hip 141 : Quality Road x Aspen Light (half to Owendale)
hip 142 : American Pharoah x A Star is Born (half to Fleet Review, dam is full to Rip Van Winkle)
hip 145 : Justify x A Z Warrior
hip 147 : Curlin x Baffled (dam of Constitution, Boynton)
hip 151 : Gun Runner x Bella Rafaela (dam is half to Twirling Candy, Ethnic Dance)
hip 154 : Candy Ride x Best Performance
hip 156 : War Front x Black Dynamite (dam is half to Killer Graces, Chocolate Ride)
hip 158 : Curlin x Bounding
hip 160 : Kitten's Joy x Broken Dreams (half to Caribou Club, dam is GSW)
hip 163 : Into Mischief x Bubbler (half to Arrogate, Osare)
hip 164 : Justify x Butterflies (2nd dam is Mariah's Storm)
hip 168 : Constitution x Caribbean Babe (dam is half to Independence Hall, Black Onyx)
hip 169 : Curlin x Carina Mia
hip 173 : Curlin x Cathryn Sohpia
hip 174 : Medaglia d'Oro x Centre Court
hip 175 : Candy Ride x Charm the Maker (half to Rock Your World)
hip 177 : Curlin x Cherry Lodge (dam is GSW, full to Gala Award, half to Stormello, My Best Brother)
hip 179 : Preservationist x Church By The Sea (half to Significant Form, Hay Dakota)
hip 181 : Into Mischief x Conquering (2nd dam is Take Charge Lady)

What a stellar first session! I skipped over several pedigrees that would have been the stars of other sales!

And isn't it something that Songbird, Cathryn Sophia, and Carina Mia all have yearlings entered in the same sale?

I was wondering what happened to red ruby

Posted: **Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:40 am**

Considering all of the positive market indicators at FTSAR, the Keeneland folks must be very, very happy.

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:15 am**

Bloodhorse just shared an article stating that Jane Lyon withdrew Eagles Flight, the Curlin half-brother to Flightline, from the sale to retain and race as her own.

I can’t say I blame her but I was curious to see how much he hammered for.

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:02 pm**

Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:24 pm Most notable from day 2/3:

California Chrome's 1/2 brother by Medaglia d'Oro is allll the way down in session 7 (#2313)
Life Is Sweet's filly by Uncle Mo is in session 9 (#3132)

Sad to say, but likely where he belongs.
CC was a one hit wonder and the dam has produced nothing else, even when bred to far better sires.
LIS not faring much better as a broodmare even with the best opportunities. 9 of racing age and nothing to speak of. Guess even Uncle Mo can't overcome that stigma.

Posted: **Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:32 am**

KatieK101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:15 am Bloodhorse just shared an article stating that Jane Lyon withdrew Eagles Flight, the Curlin half-brother to Flightline, from the sale to retain and race as her own.

I can’t say I blame her but I was curious to see how much he hammered for.

Per Kaitlin Free on Twitter, here are a few more key outs:

Hip 173 - Curlin x Cathryn Sophia
Hip 215 - Uncle Mo x Dona Bruja
Hip 296 - Quality Road x Justwhistledixie
Hip 350 - Candy Ride x Moulin de Mougin
Hip 353 - Curlin x Mythical Bride
Hip 451 - Gun Runner x Speed Succeeds
Hip 527 - Justify x African Jade
Hip 589 - Nyquist x Co Cola
Hip 704 - Tapit x Lady Pewitt
Hip 712 - Hard Spun x Like a Gem
Hip 716 - Omaha Beach x Love Theway Youare
Hip 1405 - Into Mischief x Embellish the Lace

I love to see these kind of horses go through the ring so it’s a bummer, but there are still plenty of buzz horses entered in the sale! I’m surprised that Songbird’s foal is still in.

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:45 pm**

Quite a few more horses have been withdrawn from the sale. Here are just a few that I had time to record.

hip 2 - Into Mischief x Peggy Jane
hip 13 - Curlin x Quiet Flirt
hip 19 - Omaha Beach x Riley's Choice
hip 33 - Quality Road x Sea Gull
hip 56 - Street Sense x Spellbound
hip 68 - Curlin x Sweet Assassin
hip 164 - Justify x Butterflies
hip 179 - Preservationist x Church by the Sea
hip 251 - Bernardini x Forest Music
hip 261 - Curlin x Glinda the Good
hip 265 - Tapit x Gracie Square
hip 280 - Constitution x Hot Dixie Chick
hip 345 - Tapit x Molly Morgan
hip 421 - Hard Spun x Sangrita
hip 475 - Into Mischief x Tapping Colors
hip 527 - Justify x African Jade
hip 651 - Into Mischief x Gloryzapper
hip 712 - Hard Spun x Like a Gem

Posted: **Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:31 pm**

KatieK101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:45 pm Quite a few more horses have been withdrawn from the sale. Here are just a few that I had time to record.

hip 2 - Into Mischief x Peggy Jane
hip 13 - Curlin x Quiet Flirt
hip 19 - Omaha Beach x Riley's Choice
hip 33 - Quality Road x Sea Gull
hip 56 - Street Sense x Spellbound
hip 68 - Curlin x Sweet Assassin
hip 164 - Justify x Butterflies
hip 179 - Preservationist x Church by the Sea
hip 251 - Bernardini x Forest Music
hip 261 - Curlin x Glinda the Good
hip 265 - Tapit x Gracie Square
hip 280 - Constitution x Hot Dixie Chick
hip 345 - Tapit x Molly Morgan
hip 421 - Hard Spun x Sangrita
hip 475 - Into Mischief x Tapping Colors
hip 527 - Justify x African Jade
hip 651 - Into Mischief x Gloryzapper
hip 712 - Hard Spun x Like a Gem

Ooh, the Bernardini/Forest Music...I’m in love with that one !

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:32 am**

Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Ooh, the Bernardini/Forest Music...I’m in love with that one !

Not too surprising this one couldn't even remain sound enough to make it to the yearling sale.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:16 am**

CorridorZ75 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:32 am
Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Ooh, the Bernardini/Forest Music...I’m in love with that one !
Not too surprising this one couldn't even remain sound enough to make it to the yearling sale.

It seems more likely that Stonestreet has just elected to keep this one. Some possible motivating factors:

1) It wouldn't be disingenuous to say Forest Music is/will someday be considered one of their foundation mares.
2) Forest Music died in 2021 and this is her last foal, a filly.
3) Unless I'm mistaken, she is one of only 2 female offspring from Forest Music (the other being GSW Electric Forest).
4) Filly is by top broodmare sire Bernardini.

Look, I don't know if she was placed in Book 2 because she's not a spectacular physical and would have had a better chance to stand out than if she'd been in Book 1. Maybe Stonestreet wasn't happy with her catalogue placement. Maybe they felt she was more valuable for their program than she was to sell. EDIT: My bad, I was thinking that only the first session was Book 1. This filly was catalogued in Book 1.

She could definitely have developed an issue recently, that doesn't mean she's inherently unsound, but would affect her walk or radiographs for the sale. We all know it can just be bad timing. Something relatively minor can be bothering a horse at the time of the sale. A week later, it's fully resolved and you'd never know there had been a problem. But by then the sale is over. And since so many potential buyers will scratch a horse off their list if it just looks at them funny, sellers may not want to send them there with even a small issue.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:54 am**

I sure hope the filly is more like her dad and doesn't get mama's soundness issues. All her siblings sure did.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:12 am**

Don't mind me, just looking for splashy yearlings.

Hip 110 - f. Medaglia d'Oro x Villa Marina (GB) has a stocking that covers her knee on one leg. https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/0110/?854
Hip 119 - f. Curling x Win the War is a splashy chestnut. https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/0119/?586
Hip 125 - c. Gun Runner x Acqua Fresh (URU) has a big blaze. His broodmare sire is Ecclesiastic, half brother to War Front. https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/0125/?890
Hip 253 - c. Justify x Frosty (IRE) is greying out in a fun pattern. https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/0253/?571

Also, uh, he's not splashy or anything but I looked at him and said "whoa." Hip 262 - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/0262/?272

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:35 am**

CorridorZ75 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:32 am
Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Ooh, the Bernardini/Forest Music...I’m in love with that one !
Not too surprising this one couldn't even remain sound enough to make it to the yearling sale.

Whatever....

I love and miss Bernardini, and I hope this one - filly or colt ? - will be a runner.

Edit:

She’s a filly, good. I refuse to speculate about soundness issues when there’s no proof she or any other yearlings withdrawn have them. Bernardini is a brilliant BMS, and there won’t be many of his daughters left; that’s enough reason for her owner to keep this sweet girl.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:03 pm**

Scrolling through looking at some of the blingy horses Starrydreamer mentioned

, I saw that Songbird's filly is now an "out."

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:26 pm**

TwilightTear wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:03 pm Scrolling through looking at some of the blingy horses Starrydreamer mentioned , I saw that Songbird's filly is now an "out."

*sigh* I know many of the buzz horses are withdrawn from the sale for one reason or another but a lot of the hips that I was really excited about are outs now. Of course we'll still (probably) see them on the track but I do love the excitement that comes w a yearling like, for example, America's Joy.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:23 pm**

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:42 pm 222 - Justify x Dream of Summer

Colt or filly? If he/she has four fairly straight legs, I can imagine that the the bids will climb into the rafters....maybe more because of the dam than the sire. Famous as Justify may be, Dream of Summer is a blue hen mare.

This is a colt

Oop I thought you asked that today LOL shows how much I pay attention

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:03 pm**

The dollar is really high now against the euro, yen, and pound. I wonder how much of a negative impact that will have against foreign participation?

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