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Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:30 pm
by KatieK101
I really enjoy keeping up with pedigrees and crosses, and a statistic caught my eye after Dynamic One's win in the Suburban:
"Union Rags/Smart Strike the gift that keeps on giving with 7 SW from 31 starters (23%), 5 GSW, including today's Suburban Handicap (G2) winner Dynamic One. Gdam, Champion Storm Flag Flying, third dam My Flag, fourth dam Personal Engsign..."
-- Pedigree Consultants on Twitter
After some digging, the other four GSWs to come from this cross are G1W Union Strike, G2Ws Spielberg and Caramel Swirl, and G3W Bees and Honey.
And now I'm just curious, what are some other sire/dam sire crosses that seem to work exceptionally well with each other? I'm mainly interested in the US lines since I don't follow international pedigrees very closely but I'm open to any insight! I may turn this into a personal project soon
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:58 pm
by ThreeMustangs
Galileo over Danehill. Frankel is the leading example.
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:06 pm
by Vermilion
I can think of a few promising crosses with <20 starters (like
Into Mischief / Speightstown or
Speightstown / Tapit), but I won't include their statistics because I don't think the numbers are sufficient. Here are the ones that came to mind right off the bat:
- War Front / Galileo has 11 SW from 82 starters (13% SW, 66% winners from starters). G1Ws include Roly Poly, U S Navy Flag, and Fog of War.
- Curlin / A.P. Indy has 9 SW from 51 starters (18% SW, 71% winners from starters). G1Ws include Nest, Idol, Malathaat, and Global Campaign.
- Medaglia d'Oro / Distorted Humor has 8 SW from 54 starters (15% SW, 67% winners from starters). G1Ws include Elate, New Money Honey, and Golden Sixty.
I might come back later after I think about a few more, but those are the only ones I thought of (and had the time to verify) for now.
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:28 pm
by Flanders
Curlin over Bernardini mares has produced 24% SWs. 21 starters, 16 winners, 8 SWs. Including G1 Clairiere, Paris Lights, G2 Point of Honor, Cezanne, G3 Spice is Nice.
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:33 pm
by Squeaky
Which crosses have worked best with UBS mares?
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:40 pm
by CorridorZ75
KatieK101 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:30 pm
I really enjoy keeping up with pedigrees and crosses, and a statistic caught my eye after Dynamic One's win in the Suburban:
"Union Rags/Smart Strike the gift that keeps on giving with 7 SW from 31 starters (23%), 5 GSW, including today's Suburban Handicap (G2) winner Dynamic One. Gdam, Champion Storm Flag Flying, third dam My Flag, fourth dam Personal Engsign..."
-- Pedigree Consultants on Twitter
After some digging, the other four GSWs to come from this cross are G1W Union Strike, G2Ws Spielberg and Caramel Swirl, and G3W Bees and Honey.
And now I'm just curious, what are some other sire/dam sire crosses that seem to work exceptionally well with each other? I'm mainly interested in the US lines since I don't follow international pedigrees very closely but I'm open to any insight! I may turn this into a personal project soon
Start breaking down sire stats based on female family haplotype of broodmare and you end up with some intriguing patterns.
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:15 pm
by Retrospectiv
I don't know the numbers, but Frankel over Dubawi is looking very potent.
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:13 pm
by Slewfan2
AP Indy with Mr. P ...legendary
Curlin/AP Indy...Curlin/Bernardini....on it’s way
Re: Exceptional Crosses
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:05 am
by ThreeMustangs
This is a good article on European nicks.
https://theownerbreeder.com/columns/tri ... that-work/
Galileo over Pivotal returns 36.4% BTWs.