Horse Racing Forum - USA Thoroughbred Races

I will start with:

Catholic Boy - More Than Ready -Claiborne Farm

Audible - Into Mischief - Win Star Farm

Preservationist - Arch - Ardrie Farm

World of Trouble -Kantharos - Hill 'n' Dale

Maximus Mischief - Into Mischief -Spendrift Farm - $7500 Fee.

Saban wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:01 am I will start with:

Catholic Boy - More Than Ready -Claiborne Farm

Audible - Into Mischief - Win Star Farm

Preservationist - Arch - Ardrie Farm

World of Trouble -Kantharos - Hill 'n' Dale

Maximus Mischief - Into Mischief -Spendrift Farm - $7500 Fee.

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

Force the Pass - Speightstown - Anchor + Hope
Demarchelier - Dubawi - Claiborne
Coltimus Prime - Milwaukee Brew - Beau Valley Stable (CAN)
Breaking Lucky - Lookin At Lucky - Blue Star Racing
Leofric - Candy Ride - Rockridge Stud
Disco Partner - Disco Rico - Rockridge Stud

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

I expect World of Trouble to be (rightfully) popular, and part of me wants to bet money on Win$tar finding Audible 100+.

Cause you know, gotta get a couple hundred kids out of an unsound horse before he goes to Korea.

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 am Force the Pass - Speightstown - Anchor + Hope
Demarchelier - Dubawi - Claiborne
Coltimus Prime - Milwaukee Brew - Beau Valley Stable (CAN)
Breaking Lucky - Lookin At Lucky - Blue Star Racing
Leofric - Candy Ride - Rockridge Stud
Disco Partner - Disco Rico - Rockridge Stud

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

I expect World of Trouble to be (rightfully) popular, and part of me wants to bet money on Win$tar finding Audible 100+.

Cause you know, gotta get a couple hundred kids out of an unsound horse before he goes to Korea.

Please define 'popular' for a son of Kantharos o/o a Valid Expectations mare. Fee more or less than the $30,000 his sire stands for in 2020?

World of Trouble is standing for $15,000.

Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:58 am World of Trouble is standing for $15,000.

Pass.

Maximus Mischief
Mitole
Omaha Beach
and the 2 other stallions that Spendthrift announced who will be joining the previous three stallions (I've already forgotten their names)

there are some stallion prospects every year who I. am usually very excited about...however I am very, very underwhelmed by all the new stallion prospects for this year

Disco Partner is interesting, ran well to age 7, pedigree isn't fashionable but his female family is pretty good.

There are more nice new stallions in Europe though, namely Study of Man, Blue Point, and Crystal Ocean (who is going to a NH stud because European breeders literally only want sprinters).

Horsebagger wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:27 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 am Force the Pass - Speightstown - Anchor + Hope
Demarchelier - Dubawi - Claiborne
Coltimus Prime - Milwaukee Brew - Beau Valley Stable (CAN)
Breaking Lucky - Lookin At Lucky - Blue Star Racing
Leofric - Candy Ride - Rockridge Stud
Disco Partner - Disco Rico - Rockridge Stud

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

I expect World of Trouble to be (rightfully) popular, and part of me wants to bet money on Win$tar finding Audible 100+.

Cause you know, gotta get a couple hundred kids out of an unsound horse before he goes to Korea.

Please define 'popular' for a son of Kantharos o/o a Valid Expectations mare. Fee more or less than the $30,000 his sire stands for in 2020?

Speed speed speed speed.

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 am Force the Pass - Speightstown - Anchor + Hope
Demarchelier - Dubawi - Claiborne
Coltimus Prime - Milwaukee Brew - Beau Valley Stable (CAN)
Breaking Lucky - Lookin At Lucky - Blue Star Racing
Leofric - Candy Ride - Rockridge Stud
Disco Partner - Disco Rico - Rockridge Stud

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

I expect World of Trouble to be (rightfully) popular, and part of me wants to bet money on Win$tar finding Audible 100+.

Cause you know, gotta get a couple hundred kids out of an unsound horse before he goes to Korea.

Klimt got 222 mares last year off 8 starts. Audible will top 100 without breaking a sweat. The Quality Road/Into Mischief factor. Throw in a some
precociousness and fragileness....the breeders can't or won't resist...

Lost Treasure - War Front - Hill 'n' Dale Farm

hadrianmarcus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:11 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 am Force the Pass - Speightstown - Anchor + Hope
Demarchelier - Dubawi - Claiborne
Coltimus Prime - Milwaukee Brew - Beau Valley Stable (CAN)
Breaking Lucky - Lookin At Lucky - Blue Star Racing
Leofric - Candy Ride - Rockridge Stud
Disco Partner - Disco Rico - Rockridge Stud

Without having any info on probable fees, I have a sense that there won't be any line around the block for anyone of this new crew of stallions.

I expect World of Trouble to be (rightfully) popular, and part of me wants to bet money on Win$tar finding Audible 100+.

Cause you know, gotta get a couple hundred kids out of an unsound horse before he goes to Korea.

Klimt got 222 mares last year off 8 starts. Audible will top 100 without breaking a sweat. The Quality Road/Into Mischief factor. Throw in a some
precociousness and fragileness....the breeders can't or won't resist...

I heard that Darby Dan let anything that can neigh breed to him.

Catholic Boy will stand for 25k

if AP is too expensive, you can head to Journeyman in Ocala and breed St Patrick's Day for $5k.

It's not unheard of for the less-accomplished full brothers of great racehorses to turn out to be decent sires. Giant's Causeway's sibling, Freud, did pretty well for himself.

wasn't implying either way in that regard, more like "hey you could ALMOST have an AP kiddo for real cheap!" the temptation is real

I wouldn't be surprised if the hope of 'Frankel's genetics for Noble Mission's fee' might have given NM a bit of a boost here...and he just actually might be giving the breeders what they hoped for.

yeah, there are a couple stallions out there i'd gamble on if i had the mares... maybe in my next life!

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:05 pm It's not unheard of for the less-accomplished full brothers of great racehorses to turn out to be decent sires. Giant's Causeway's sibling, Freud, did pretty well for himself.

Going further back, Vice Regent (Northern Dancer) was the leading sire in Canada 13 times. He won 2 races, and $6200

His full brother was Viceregal, Champion 2yr old and HOTY in Canada. He was sent to Japan as a 12 year old, in 1978.

I'd say the best example would have to be Fairy King. Full brother to all time great Sadler's Wells, Fairy King he broke down in his first race and was retired. He went on to sire Encosta De Lago, Falbrav, Oath, Hellisio, etc.

Kodiac was a G3 placed brother to G1 winner and emerging sire (at the time), Invincible Spirit. Kodiac started at €5,000 and now stands for €65,000, while Invincible Spirit now stands for €120,000.

I'm the first one to complain about stallions who are over priced and/or should be gelded, but an unproven full/half brother to a superstar at a bargain basement price isn't the worst thing in my eyes.