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At least, with Hansen, his sire is still alive and well, plus we have a bunch of other good Tapit sons standing at the moment in the States.Sid Fernando tweet: "money was more than he could possibly generate in years 2,3,4 and 5."BaroqueAgain1 wrote:That was a shocker to read. S. Korea must have put up a ton of money.
I'm not as upset about his sale as I was about Rock Hard Ten's.
Hope this is the one you're looking for:serenassong wrote:They must have driven an Brinks van to the door, if that's the case. I know that South Korea does have a on-line stud book- I think Neighhey has the link- she sends me stuff for the Harlington runners that are there.
Possibly, though after reading a few things about the national breeding and racing industries there (and basing this off of 2012 numbers), there are only about 1300 foals born per year in Korea. How many of those mares will Hansen have a shot at? Who knows. They also only have 2 racetracks in the country. It's definitely a different model than most other countries we're familiar with.Vertigo wrote:Good for Korea. Theyve been stepping up their breeding game so this is awesome. Could be a really good chance for Hansen to be a good sire.
Was a huge fan of this horse so I'm a little sad for selfish reasons, but this could be really great for him.
The popular stallions seem to get between 65 to 100 mares a year in Korea.BlindLucky wrote:Possibly, though after reading a few things about the national breeding and racing industries there (and basing this off of 2012 numbers), there are only about 1300 foals born per year in Korea. How many of those mares will Hansen have a shot at? Who knows. They also only have 2 racetracks in the country. It's definitely a different model than most other countries we're familiar with.Vertigo wrote:Good for Korea. Theyve been stepping up their breeding game so this is awesome. Could be a really good chance for Hansen to be a good sire.
Was a huge fan of this horse so I'm a little sad for selfish reasons, but this could be really great for him.
Have to build a program from somewhere.BlindLucky wrote:Possibly, though after reading a few things about the national breeding and racing industries there (and basing this off of 2012 numbers), there are only about 1300 foals born per year in Korea. How many of those mares will Hansen have a shot at? Who knows. They also only have 2 racetracks in the country. It's definitely a different model than most other countries we're familiar with.Vertigo wrote:Good for Korea. Theyve been stepping up their breeding game so this is awesome. Could be a really good chance for Hansen to be a good sire.
Was a huge fan of this horse so I'm a little sad for selfish reasons, but this could be really great for him.
To some extent, South Korea is patterning itself after Japan's breeding effort to become an international player. Heretofore, in order to protect domestic breeders and owners there had been quite significant monetary restrictions on what the the KRA could spend overseas to bring in racing horses and broodmares in foal, and the imported horses nearly always race in their own class (i.e., not against the domestic-breds). But now they are opening up a bit on at least the former, and working especially hard to import a better class of stallions and broodmares for their domestic breeders to access.BlindLucky wrote:Possibly, though after reading a few things about the national breeding and racing industries there (and basing this off of 2012 numbers), there are only about 1300 foals born per year in Korea. How many of those mares will Hansen have a shot at? Who knows. They also only have 2 racetracks in the country. It's definitely a different model than most other countries we're familiar with.Vertigo wrote:Good for Korea. Theyve been stepping up their breeding game so this is awesome. Could be a really good chance for Hansen to be a good sire.
Was a huge fan of this horse so I'm a little sad for selfish reasons, but this could be really great for him.
Yeah, there are some people over on FB saying stuff like that. I tried to explain to them about the buy back clause and how there is an on-line community like us who try and watch these things. From what I have seen of South Korea so far, they are doing a good job. There is so much more transparency than in the past- and the internet helps with this.second_glance wrote:From Alistair Middleton, who lives in South Korea and covers Korean racing (quite well):
Korea Racing @korearacing 15h
Always amused at the reaction to any US stallion coming to Korea. Hansen is here to cover mares. We're not going to pop him in a casserole.
That's what I'm hoping and thinking as well.Admin wrote:Well, it's not just that they could end up in a casserole. It's basically a black hole that they go into regarding ever seeing the horse again or watching its offspring.serenassong wrote:Yeah, there are some people over on FB saying stuff like that. I tried to explain to them about the buy back clause and how there is an on-line community like us who try and watch these things. From what I have seen of South Korea so far, they are doing a good job. There is so much more transparency than in the past- and the internet helps with this.second_glance wrote:From Alistair Middleton, who lives in South Korea and covers Korean racing (quite well):
Korea Racing @korearacing 15h
Always amused at the reaction to any US stallion coming to Korea. Hansen is here to cover mares. We're not going to pop him in a casserole.
As for buy-back clauses, they're good-intentioned but basically worth only as much as the honor of the new owner. Suing someone in a foreign country, after the deed has already been done, is what the former owner is left with. In this case, however, it appears that Coolmore hasn't given up total control over their stallion interest and the contract could be more significant and enforceable than normal.
South Korea is in the northern hemisphere.Acadiana wrote:Just curious, but what breeding season is South Korea? Is there any chance he could shuttle or are they northern hemisphere?