Horse Racing Forum - USA Thoroughbred Races

For Claiborne

Algorithms - $7,500
Arch - $40,000
Blame - TBA
Data Link - $7,500
First Samurai - $15,000
Flatter - $20,000
Horse Greeley - $2,500
Orb - $25,000
Stroll - $5,000
Trappe Shot - $10,000
War Front - $150,000

as per Bloodhorse.

Although War Front has been performing better in the sales ring than on the track this year, I am somewhat surprised that they didn't raise it. Although if people have been paying $200,000+ to get in his small book I guess the listed price doesn't really matter.

Interesting that Blame is TBA. Waiting to see how the sales go?

Maybe Blame's fee will be determined after the Breeders' Cup, I suppose?

A lot of the farms do indeed wait until after the BC and the sales are over to set prices. I would assume that they have a figure in mind and make adjustments that they feel are warranted. To use a Nascar term- it's Silly Season- who stays, who goes, who is raised, who is discounted.

Hill n Dale Farm

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... s-released

Harris Farm for 2015:

Lucky Pulpit -- $10,000 (was $2,500 in 2014)
Unusual Heat -- $20,000
Heatseeker -- $5,000
Smiling Tiger -- $5,000
Desert Code -- $2,000
Tizbud -- $1,500
Lucky J.H. -- $1,500.

Smiling Tiger is a lot of talent for $5000, and although his sire (Hold That Tiger) hasn't been a big success at stud (I think he's been exported?) he was a top class runner by Storm Cat, so this one has something to offer, pedigree-wise.

Diver52 wrote:Smiling Tiger is a lot of talent for $5000, and although his sire (Hold That Tiger) hasn't been a big success at stud (I think he's been exported?) he was a top class runner by Storm Cat, so this one has something to offer, pedigree-wise.

He was sold to France at the end of his Freshman year(2007) to replace High Yield who had died that year.

I thought First Samurai and Flatter might get a bump up. They've had pretty good years.

middleground wrote:I thought First Samurai and Flatter might get a bump up. They've had pretty good years.

I think First Samurai was kept where he was because he doesn't have many 2yos(33) or yearlings(16-17). Breeders did send a lot of mares to him last year and he has at least 85 weanlings. I don't know about this year, though that report should be coming out fairly soon. They were probably just hoping to keep his mare level up there.

Flatter is priced about where he should be, at least looking at the sire list, the other stallions around him are priced similarly.

I saw First Samurai at Claiborne last year as he was being shown to a breeder-- very square, solid horse. His only prominent offspring I think was Executive Privilege, but he looked very capable of siring a runner.

Diver52 wrote:I saw First Samurai at Claiborne last year as he was being shown to a breeder-- very square, solid horse. His only prominent offspring I think was Executive Privilege, but he looked very capable of siring a runner.

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I love that price for First Samurai, he is a good sire. It's a steal.
I also am surprised Trappe Shot stayed at $10,000, his yearlings sold really well.

Darby Dan's fees are unchanged

American Lion - $5,000
Dialed In - $7,500
Jersey Town - $10,000
Perfect Soul - $7,500
Run Away and Hide - $7,500
Shackleford - $20,000
Tale of Ekati - $15,000

Spendthrift

Kentucky Stallions
Archarcharch - $9,000
Awesome Patriot - $3,500
Cross Traffic - $12,500
Dominus - $4,500
Flat Out - $10,000
Goldencents - $12,500
Into Mischief - $30,000
Itsmyluckyday - $8,000
Jimmy Creed - $12,000
Liaison - $10,000
Line of David - $2,000
Malibu Moon - $95,000
Paddy O'Prado - $9,500
Shakin It Up - $10,000
Temple City - $12,500
Tizway - $15,000
Warrior's Reward - $25,000
Wilburn - $6,500

Ontario Stallions standing at Park Stud
Court Vision - $7,500 (CAN)
Victor's Cry - $3,500 (CAN)

New York Stallions standing at Keane Stud
Dublin - $6,500
The Lumber Guy - $3,500

Maryland Stallions standing at Country Life Farm
Freedom Child - $3,000
Super Ninety Nine - $4,000

Louisiana Stallions
Flashpoint (standing at Le Mesa Stallions) - $2,500
My Pal Charlie (standing at Elite Thoroughbreds) - $2,500

Izvestia wrote:I love that price for First Samurai, he is a good sire. It's a steal.
I also am surprised Trappe Shot stayed at $10,000, his yearlings sold really well.

Most farms wont raise fees just because the first crop yearlings sell well. Selling and running are 2 different things.

I can promise you he will be tough to get to next year tho.

WinStar

Artie Schiller - $15,000
Bellamy Road - $10,000
Bodemeister - $30,000
Colonel John - $10,000
Congrats - TBD
Distorted Humor - $100,000
Drosselmeyer - $15,000
Fast Bullet - $5,000
Gemologist - $15,000
Hold Me Back - $5,000
More Than Ready - $50,000
Overanalyze - $10,000
Paynter - $25,000
Pioneerof the Nile - TBD
Revolutionary - $7,500
Sidney's Candy - $15,000
Speightstown - $80,000
Spring At Last - $10,000
Super Saver - $35,000
Take Charge Indy - $20,000
Tiznow - $75,000
U S Ranger - $5,000

Three Chimneys

Will Take Charge— $30,000
Exchange Rate — $20,000
Sky Mesa — $20,000
Strong Mandate — $10,000
Yes It's True — $10,000
Brilliant Speed — $5,000
Caleb's Posse — $5,000
Big Brown—TBA

Boisterous - $5,000.

Tommy Town Thoroughbreds, in partnership with Gary Barber, will stand new stallion Boisterous for the 2015 breeding season at Tom and Debi Stull's farm near Santa Ynez, Calif.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... boisterous

Winstar announced their 2015 stallion fees, but Kodiak Kowboy is not on their list.

Wonder if they are sending him elsewhere and are not ready to announce it. Kodiak Kowboy was listed as a stallion on Winstar's web site last week but as of today, he is no longer listed on their web site.

There is an export on file for him via JC. I really, really wish that the export would list the country and date of export.

ETA- Forgot that he did shuttle to Brazil- perhaps he stays?