Horse Racing Forum - USA Thoroughbred Races

Here is the link to the 2014 KEE Nov Breeding Stock Sale catalog:

http://flex.keeneland.com/saleindex/saleindex.html

As I get no work done ....

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The White Witch is #66- some would say this one needs another digit on the end (another 6).

#84- Gigahertz (Dynaformer x Megahertz(GB))
#93- Halo Dolly
#106- Iotapa
#132- Stanwick
#147- Miss Sea Oats- half to Shack
#202- Spice Island
#208- Graeme Hall

Sigh- #2876- Harlington- hope he goes to a good place- I get the feeling an export is in this one's future.

#672- Jostle
#1065- I Lost My Choo
#1707- Vesper Lynd (one of Jas's horses)

Hip #1638, See Ya Signe is a young Broodmare Prospect with Gr1 black-type in first 3 DAMS.
She is also by Sea The Stars, sire of Gr1 stakes winners in his first 2 crops.

Hail To Reason wrote:Hip #1638, See Ya Signe is a young Broodmare Prospect with Gr1 black-type in first 3 DAMS.
She is also by Sea The Stars, sire of Gr1 stakes winners in his first 2 crops.

You have to think there's a reason why a young mare with that pedigree is cataloged in Book 3, though.

mariasmon wrote:

Hail To Reason wrote:Hip #1638, See Ya Signe is a young Broodmare Prospect with Gr1 black-type in first 3 DAMS.
She is also by Sea The Stars, sire of Gr1 stakes winners in his first 2 crops.

You have to think there's a reason why a young mare with that pedigree is cataloged in Book 3, though.

Silly question probably: Would someone totally new to the breeding game get their entries relegated to less good books than if they were established breeders?

Noticing many of the mares that Adena is cataloging are selling with a NG 2015 season to one of their stallions. I can't recall seeing this before?

Admin wrote:

serenassong wrote:The White Witch is #66- some would say this one needs another digit on the end (another 6).

Interestingly, she's not a witch around the barn since she's been retired. One wonders if her bad disposition was exaggerated or if being out in the paddock changed her demeanor.

Could very well be, some do indeed mellow after coming off the track.

bare it all wrote:Noticing many of the mares that Adena is cataloging are selling with a NG 2015 season to one of their stallions. I can't recall seeing this before?

It is not a new incentive to include a breed back, with no guarantee, to help sell a mare.
I recall mares being sold as far back as the mid 70s being offered with a breed back incentive.
Some would also offer a breed back if the in foal mare didn't carry a foal full term.

Silly question probably: Would someone totally new to the breeding game get their entries relegated to less good books than if they were established breeders?[/quote]

The sales company selects the first letter of the dam's name to start and end the sale alphabetically.
If you look at the names of the dams in the catalog this year you'll notice it begins with "T".
This was done many years ago so as to be more fair to consignors by not playing favorites.
Then they apply criteria that qualifies the stock to be graded and placed in a sequential order of importance to be auctioned.

Hail To Reason wrote:Silly question probably: Would someone totally new to the breeding game get their entries relegated to less good books than if they were established breeders?

The sales company selects the first letter of the dam's name to start and end the sale alphabetically.
If you look at the names of the dams in the catalog this year you'll notice it begins with "T".
This was done many years ago so as to be more fair to consignors by not playing favorites.
Then they apply criteria that qualifies the stock to be graded and placed in a sequential order of importance to be auctioned.[/quote]

But wouldn't that very thing - the criteria that qualify the grading of the stock - result in some individuals produced by new breeders/little known stallions to be moved towards the later books rather than Book 1 or 2?

Don't think I've seen her listed, but what about hip 774: a Milwaukee Brew half sister to Mucho Macho Man, covered by Macho Uno

Some of the other big names I saw while skimming:

199: dam is Urbane
287: half to Bayern (and named Don't Surprise Me)
297: fiftyshadesofhay
312: Hooh Why
409: out of silverbulletday
444: half to smarty jones.
424: half to super saver
511: half to big brown
596: half to cross traffic
624: full to Data Link
886: out of Voyage
1689: half to empire maker (also related 916, half to indygo shiner)
1094: out of la affirmed
1137 half to union rags (daughter also listed)
1376 half to gemologist
1406: half to string mandate, Newfoundland etc.

bare it all wrote:Noticing many of the mares that Adena is cataloging are selling with a NG 2015 season to one of their stallions. I can't recall seeing this before?

Years ago, I can't recall exactly when, but I would say mid to late 90s or early 2000s, Adena used to sell a bunch of mares at one of the November sales. So many that they had their own catalog. These always sold with a breed back option to one of the stallions listed on that mares page. This was when Adena was trying to promote new stallions.

A couple of years ago, Ramsey sold a few broodmares at FT with seasons to Kitten's Joy. They were all mares with proven produce by KJ.

serenassong wrote:
Sigh- #2876- Harlington- hope he goes to a good place- I get the feeling an export is in this one's future.

I know someone very interested in buying Harlington for stud here in the USA. I'm crossing my fingers and toes he'll get him because it would mean I'd get to see him every day

Acadiana wrote:

serenassong wrote:
Sigh- #2876- Harlington- hope he goes to a good place- I get the feeling an export is in this one's future.

I know someone very interested in buying Harlington for stud here in the USA. I'm crossing my fingers and toes he'll get him because it would mean I'd get to see him every day

Count me in as hoping- would be nice to have someone on the inside where he is- he is one very handsome dude. Uzziel will be running in the LA Woman tomorrow at Santa Anita- best runner so far- would be nice for her to be a graded stakes winner or at least graded stakes placed. She has won 2 stakes so far
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/SA ... html#RACE4

serenassong wrote:

Acadiana wrote:

serenassong wrote:
Sigh- #2876- Harlington- hope he goes to a good place- I get the feeling an export is in this one's future.

I know someone very interested in buying Harlington for stud here in the USA. I'm crossing my fingers and toes he'll get him because it would mean I'd get to see him every day

Count me in as hoping- would be nice to have someone on the inside where he is- he is one very handsome dude. Uzziel will be running in the LA Woman tomorrow at Santa Anita- best runner so far- would be nice for her to be a graded stakes winner or at least graded stakes placed. She has won 2 stakes so far
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/SA ... html#RACE4

When I handicapped that race, I actually came up with Uzziel winning. I remember liking Harlington when he ran, but until he showed up in the catalog, I had no idea what had happened to him.