Stallion News

Flanders · Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:20 pm

Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:41 am
Nenikikamen23 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:31 am 2 y.o BLACKBEARD off to stud... yikes
Who wants to breed to a horse who with behavioral issues severe enough to be a danger to himself and others on the track and who couldn't make it to his 3yo season before retirement?

Oh who am I kidding he'll get 200 mares his first season.

I think the behavior has to be the real reason behind the retirement. A small knee chip removal and the horse should be back able to train in 2 months. They are off over the winter. UK/Irish flat racing doesn't start until late March/early April.

BaroqueAgain1 · Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm

I know Blackbeard has acted up before being loaded into the stalls, showing too much excitement and impatience. But has he also been reported to be mean, trying to kick/bite his grooms or riders?

HB1994 · Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm

Remember when Coolmore retired Holy Roman Emperor as a perfectly healthy 2 yo to substitute for the infertile George Washington?

HB1994 · Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:27 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm I know Blackbeard has acted up before being loaded into the stalls, showing too much excitement and impatience. But has he also been reported to be mean, trying to kick/bite his grooms or riders?

He didn’t behave badly in the parade ring.

BaroqueAgain1 · Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:00 pm

Then it doesn't seem likely he would have been retired due to poor temperament. Much more likely it's because he is a talented son of No Nay Never, the Scat Daddy son who has already become a successful sire.
Since Blackbeard has run 8 times this season with 6 wins, including 2 G1s, it's not like he's a lightly-raced juvenile. I presume there were already breeders lining up for him, so it makes sense for Coolmore to retire him now, rather than gambling that bringing the valuable colt back from surgery will work out.

Flanders · Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:19 pm

Olympiad to Gainesway on retirement. stud fee to TBA

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/g ... gainesway/

Miss Woodford · Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:20 pm

Stradivarius was moved into his new quarters at the National Stud today. What a stunning individual, can't wait to see his conformation pics. https://twitter.com/NatStudStallion/sta ... 8081127424

Northport · Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:54 pm

Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:20 pm Stradivarius was moved into his new quarters at the National Stud today. What a stunning individual, can't wait to see his conformation pics. https://twitter.com/NatStudStallion/sta ... 8081127424

After years of being famously studish in the paddock and preparade rings, I have a feeling he will take to his new job like a pro

Nenikikamen23 · Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:54 am

First year sires;

242 - Yaupon
222 - Charlatan
219 - Rock Your World
202 - Independence Hall

188 - Tacitus
171 - Silver State
166 - Known Agenda
163 - Maxfield
162 - Beau Liam
162 - Essential Quality
151 - Knicks Go
142 - Modernist
133 - Uncle Chuck
121 - Raging Bull (FR)
106 - By My Standards
101 - Leinster

99 - Mo Forza
93 - Basin
92 - Code of Honor
90 - Lexitonian
85 - Combatant
80 - Galilean
71 - Engage
61 - Halladay

36 - Core Beliefs
35 - Sombeyay
33 - Chance It
32 - Tap Back
31 - Galawi (IRE)
30 - Rushie
28 - Capo Kane
28 - Sleepy Eyes Todd
26 - No Parole
23 - Moquest
23 - Very Cool
23 - Waiting
22 - Fortune Ticket
18 - Cistron
14 - One Bad Boy
12 - Event Driven
12 - Venezuelan Hug
11 - Croce d'Oro

9 - Popularity
8 - Bellavia
8 - Calculated Risker
8 - Need More Mo
7 - Shoplifted
6 - In Speight Ofitall
6 - Son of Thunder
6 - Take the One O One
4 - Balandeen
4 - Botswana Taps
4 - Sawyer's Hill
2 - Gold Double
2 - True Timber
1 - Big Runnuer

Nenikikamen23 · Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:56 am

200+ Mares

248 - Gun Runner
242 - Yaupon
230 - Mendelssohn
227 - Practical Joke
225 - Not This Time
222 - Charlatan
219 - Rock Your World
218 - Mo Town
218 - Tiz the Law
205 - Omaha Beach
202 - Authentic
202 - Independence Hall
202 - Into Mischief
202 - Mitole
201 - Munnings
200 - Maclean's Music

Top 10 Non-KY Studs

133 - Uncle Chuck (FL)
120 - Stay Thirsty (CA)
119 - Honest Mischief (NY)
113 - Central Banker (NY)
101 - Leinster (FL)
99 - Mo Forza (CA)
86 - Girvin (FL)
85 - Combatant (NY)
84 - Blofeld (MD)
84 - Smiling Tiger (CA)

Mylute · Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:14 am

Uncle Chuck getting 133 is absolute insanity.

Nenikikamen23 · Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:23 am

Some active top sires and their sons in Kentucky (something I'm interested in);

Into Mischief bred 202
227 - Practical Joke
202 - Authentic
195 - Maximus Mischief
148 - Audible
141 - Instagrand
139 - Goldencents
23 - Rowayton

Uncle Mo bred 160
242 - Yaupon
218 - Mo Town
161 - Nyquist
142 - Modernist
72 - Caracaro
28 - Outwork

Curlin bred 135
172 - Connect
166 - Known Agenda
143 - Vino Rosso
126 - Good Magic
87 - Global Campaign
71 - Keen Ice
12 - Palace Malice

Candy Ride (ARG) bred 132
248 - Gun Runner
219 - Rock Your World
196 - Vekoma
176 - Twirling Candy
131 - Game Winner
77 - Unified
32 - Leofric
7 - Mastery

Tapit bred 98
188 - Tacitus
185 - Constitution
174 - Cupid
162 - Essential Quality
108 - Frosted
100 - Tapiture
87 - Tonalist
72 - Tapwrit
18 - Mohaymen

Northport · Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:41 am

I guess Three Chimneys is taking the quality and quantity approach with Gun Runner. They havent had a top top stallion in a long time. Now that they have one, i was interested to see if they would selective with the management of his book like Claiborne and Darley or if they’d just open the floodgates like Spendthrift and Coolmore. Guess we have our answer.

Also guess that is why they joined with the latter two farms to squash the book limit proposition.

brunanas · Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:00 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:14 am Uncle Chuck getting 133 is absolute insanity.

come onnnn, we need fragile genes!

brunanas · Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:01 am

ohhh damn, i made a topic to talk about the reports. only posted a few as i'm travelling and don't have my laptop. Nenikikamen23's is 10000x better than mine

brunanas · Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:07 am

also, unrelated question, but has anyone else been struggling with logging in? i can't stay logged in and a lot of times it says my info is invalid though i have my password saved so there's no way it's incorrect.

Flanders · Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:22 pm

What happened to Shancelot? I was comparing new 2021 Kentucky stallions to what they got bred to in 2022. He doesn't have a 2022 RMB. His 2021 RMB is still pending (over a year later) with these notes : Partial Fee for RMB - Dam not Properly Imported/Returned (Trompe L'Oeil (IRE)) - Mare Has Been Reported Dead (Trompe L'Oeil (IRE))

Squeaky · Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:50 pm

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:07 am also, unrelated question, but has anyone else been struggling with logging in? i can't stay logged in and a lot of times it says my info is invalid though i have my password saved so there's no way it's incorrect.

I have always had that problem even though I check stay logged in am kicked off as soon as leave the website and have to log back in again.

brunanas · Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:12 am

not too "new" but Golden Pal will retire to Ashford after the Breeders' Cup. https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... eeders-cup

Northport · Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:22 am

brunanas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:12 am not too "new" but Golden Pal will retire to Ashford after the Breeders' Cup. https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... eeders-cup

Do we think if he had gotten that coveted win in Europe he would have been standing at Coolmore Ireland? I kind of expected him to take the No Nay Never route, even though NNN was a multiple group winner in England/France.

I wonder how much they will support him with their own mares. No Nay Never didn’t start getting any of their top mares until after his first two year olds hit the track.