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Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:50 pm

Squeaky wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:34 pm
Mylute wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:46 am Gun Runner to Cover Mares on Southern Hemisphere Time
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/g ... here-time/

I find this a bit odd. It seems like the majority of southern hemisphere racing is turf. Does he have any winners on turf at all?
Is he shuttling or are the mares coming to him?
the mares are coming to him.
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Mylute wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:46 am Gun Runner to Cover Mares on Southern Hemisphere Time
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/g ... here-time/

I find this a bit odd. It seems like the majority of southern hemisphere racing is turf. Does he have any winners on turf at all?
jeez i wonder how many mares he will be bred to in total. i doubt he got less than 220ish this year on NH time. sure it will be year round so it's more spread out but still... i don't really like the idea of stallions breeding all year long, specially the ones with really big books like he probably had.
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Northport wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:54 pm The modern Thoroughbred breeding stallion doesn’t seem to live much past 23 or 24. Obviously you have your AP Indy’s and Forty Niners, but then you have your Empire Maker, El Prado, Galileo, Mastercraftsman, Kingmambo, Deep Impact, Sunday Silence, Pulpit, etc.

Maybe it’s recency bias, or I am just more personally familiar with ponies and warmbloods. Or young(er) stallions dying get more headlines.
Recent events have taught us that there are a whole lot of drugs being used out there of which we are unaware, as well. That probably isn't a recipe for longevity in some of these cases.
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:48 pm

Does anyone still think that horses 30-70 years ago weren't being given drugs or weird "supplements?" :roll:
The difference now is that the drugs being given are likely to be far better/effective in many ways. More scientific research, more controlled, sterile manufacturing (excepting that Aussie weird stuff that Fishman was peddling), and veterinarians with more modern medical training should mean that breeders/trainers/vets have pharmaceutical choices that aren't as likely to poison a horse...such as what happened with Phar Lap. :(
I know that greedy people may make the wrong choice for their welfare, but the horses are still better off not being dosed with what were considered standard 'tonics' back in the mid-twentieth century.
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Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:10 pm

brunanas wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:52 pm
Mylute wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:46 am Gun Runner to Cover Mares on Southern Hemisphere Time
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/g ... here-time/

I find this a bit odd. It seems like the majority of southern hemisphere racing is turf. Does he have any winners on turf at all?
jeez i wonder how many mares he will be bred to in total. i doubt he got less than 220ish this year on NH time. sure it will be year round so it's more spread out but still... i don't really like the idea of stallions breeding all year long, specially the ones with really big books like he probably had.
His Southern Hemisphere book will only be limited by quality. So technically if he gets a ton of top quality mares, sky's the limit. I doubt he will get a lot of SH mares though, maybe 20-30. Most breeders aren't shipping their mares around the world to get bred.
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Flanders wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:30 pm Ide and Gorgeous George
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happy to see Gorgeous George with a new friend. poor dude was so upset when Alphabet Soup passed away.
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Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:06 pm

Modernist (Uncle Mo - Symbolic Gesture) will shuttle to Santa Olga Farm in Chile this year.
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Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:03 pm

Combatant will shuttle to Chile.

Creative Cause and Heart to Heart will shuttle to Uruguay.
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Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:27 pm

Bayern had two stakes winners today at Woodbine: 4 y/o filly Hazelbrook (G3 Hendrie) and 2 y/o filly Sweet Harmony (Colleen S.).
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:26 am

Not news but... Champion New Zealand stallion Savabeel (Zabee) found a bright side to all the winter storms here recently!
https://fb.watch/evr79F6DJL/
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:21 am

Sinister Minister(USA) colt topped the first day of the HBA Hokkaido Selection Sale (Yearlings) in Japan on July 26th 2022.
Bred and consigned by Hattori Bokujo, the bay colt (hip 125) is out of the G1 winner Dearest Trickski(USA)(Proudest Romeo).
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 0125-E.pdf

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California Chrome(USA) yearlings sold quite well, too, led by the third highest-priced colt (hip 39) out of the G3 winner Eterna Minoru(JPN)(Empire Maker). The bay colt was bred and consigned by Fujiwara Farm.
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 0039-E.pdf

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Both Sinister Minister(USA) and California Chrome(USA) are standing at Arrow Stud.

Here below is the sale result of the first day.
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 20726.html

and a replay of the first day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONQCDc79HM
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https://www.darleyeurope.com/stallions/ ... olden-horn

Duel purpose stallion Golden Horn has been sold to stand at Overbury Stud.

Leaving Godolphins Dalham Hall Stud

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Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:51 pm

tachyon wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:21 am Sinister Minister(USA) colt topped the first day of the HBA Hokkaido Selection Sale (Yearlings) in Japan on July 26th 2022.
Bred and consigned by Hattori Bokujo, the bay colt (hip 125) is out of the G1 winner Dearest Trickski(USA)(Proudest Romeo).
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 0125-E.pdf

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California Chrome(USA) yearlings sold quite well, too, led by the third highest-priced colt (hip 39) out of the G3 winner Eterna Minoru(JPN)(Empire Maker). The bay colt was bred and consigned by Fujiwara Farm.
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 0039-E.pdf

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Both Sinister Minister(USA) and California Chrome(USA) are standing at Arrow Stud.

Here below is the sale result of the first day.
https://www.hba.or.jp/catalog/20220701/ ... 20726.html

and a replay of the first day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONQCDc79HM
I saw that the JRA purchased a few which I found interesting. What do they do with the ones they purchase?
Dearest Trickski was bred to California Chrome in 2021, but did not produce a foal, which I was disappointed to see.
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:56 pm

20hayes20 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:18 am https://www.darleyeurope.com/stallions/ ... olden-horn

Duel purpose stallion Golden Horn has been sold to stand at Overbury Stud.

Leaving Godolphins Dalham Hall Stud

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Another nail in the coffin for middle distance stallions, but he was given a lot of chances and really just hasn’t delivered. Too bad.

When John Gosden said that the Derby has become a pivotal race for determining top National Hunt stallions, he really wasn’t joking.
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:58 pm

What is considered middle distance?
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:34 pm

For non-American races, I feel the 'middle distance' is above a mile, but below a mile-and-five-eighths.
European runners seem to divide into sprinters (up to 7 furlongs), milers, middle distance and stayers (above 13 furlongs).
But here in the US, I've heard some TV analysts refer to a mile as 'middle distance.' :roll:
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:40 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:34 pm For non-American races, I feel the 'middle distance' is above a mile, but below a mile-and-five-eighths.
European runners seem to divide into sprinters (up to 7 furlongs), milers, middle distance and stayers (above 13 furlongs).
But here in the US, I've heard some TV analysts refer to a mile as 'middle distance.' :roll:
In the US we usually call 9-12f "classic distance" (at least on dirt) so calling a mile middle distance would differentiate it from sprint and classic.
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Mylute wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:58 pm What is considered middle distance?
Europeans consider middle distance to be 10 to 12f. They have really gone off those stallions. Recent examples would be Crystal Ocean who couldn't even get a flat stallion deal and Poet's Word who barely got bred to his first year at stud and was then sent to National Hunt for his 2nd year.
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Mylute wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:58 pm What is considered middle distance?
In Europe, I would say 10-12 furlongs.
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