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Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:05 pm

Flanders wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:49 pm The vet accidentally gave one or more of the shots intravenously and Laoban started going into distress less than a minute later. They said they have video of it. So while we know more now its still the same as its always been. He died after getting a shot that was mistakenly given intravenously. Even with the vitamins being 9-10 years out of date, they wouldn't have killed the horse. That was probably why they gave 5x the amount though.

I also understand why the insurance company wont pay out the insurance. You have to set standards. Otherwise, you'd get shady people offing horses for insurance money like they did back in the 80s. Its crappy that they lose the money the horse is worth but maybe they need to learn a lesson. Give the horse a freaking break if he doesn't want to breed anymore. Instead of trying to inject him with crap that probably wouldn't have done anything anyway.

And not defending WinStar here either but I guarantee there are A LOT of farms, maybe even most, that do similar things. Wanted to add they also do the same at the racetracks. Vitamins are given via shots, so if the person given it messes up, then its not going to have a good outcome.
The veterinarian that administered it disabled her FB page after someone on TDN's FB page found a post of hers that was finding enjoyment trying to kill an opossum with beer bottles and sticks. I saved the screen grab, too, just in-case. A bit disturbing that some of these horses are unable to escape the Mad Scientist route; even after their racing days are over. Makes you wonder how rampant these "vitamin shots" are at certain farms.
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Psychotic Parakeet wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:05 pm
Flanders wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:49 pm The vet accidentally gave one or more of the shots intravenously and Laoban started going into distress less than a minute later. They said they have video of it. So while we know more now its still the same as its always been. He died after getting a shot that was mistakenly given intravenously. Even with the vitamins being 9-10 years out of date, they wouldn't have killed the horse. That was probably why they gave 5x the amount though.

I also understand why the insurance company wont pay out the insurance. You have to set standards. Otherwise, you'd get shady people offing horses for insurance money like they did back in the 80s. Its crappy that they lose the money the horse is worth but maybe they need to learn a lesson. Give the horse a freaking break if he doesn't want to breed anymore. Instead of trying to inject him with crap that probably wouldn't have done anything anyway.

And not defending WinStar here either but I guarantee there are A LOT of farms, maybe even most, that do similar things. Wanted to add they also do the same at the racetracks. Vitamins are given via shots, so if the person given it messes up, then its not going to have a good outcome.
The veterinarian that administered it disabled her FB page after someone on TDN's FB page found a post of hers that was finding enjoyment trying to kill an opossum with beer bottles and sticks. I saved the screen grab, too, just in-case. A bit disturbing that some of these horses are unable to escape the Mad Scientist route; even after their racing days are over. Makes you wonder how rampant these "vitamin shots" are at certain farms.
The opossum thing is disturbing.

Vitamins and mineral needs should be met via the nutritional diets that the stallions are fed. But part of me thinks that vitamin shots are probably routine at farms that overbreed their stallions cause they can't give them unlimited food. Of course that is just me typing, no facts to back that up. Or maybe its routine everywhere cause its cheaper to buy a jug of vitamins to give as shots than it is to buy supplement feed.
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Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:33 pm

If I ever found out that a vet I was using had tried to beat to death an animal with beer bottles & sticks, I would fire her/his ass. And if vets have some sort of licensing Board or Association that oversees qualifications, I would see what I could do about going after their license. :evil:
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Psychotic Parakeet wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:05 pm The veterinarian that administered it disabled her FB page after someone on TDN's FB page found a post of hers that was finding enjoyment trying to kill an opossum with beer bottles and sticks. I saved the screen grab, too, just in-case. A bit disturbing that some of these horses are unable to escape the Mad Scientist route; even after their racing days are over. Makes you wonder how rampant these "vitamin shots" are at certain farms.
So the vet is either incompetent or an absolute sociopath. Not a comforting thought.
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Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:40 pm

So the vet is either incompetent or an absolute sociopath.

Or both? :shock: :evil:
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Any news on Zenyatta this year, did I miss it or is it still a mystery?












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Diver52 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:13 am Any news on Zenyatta this year, did I miss it or is it still a mystery?







Thought she wasnt bred




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Mylute wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:16 pm Crackalacking First Winner for McCraken
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Diver52 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:13 am Any news on Zenyatta this year, did I miss it or is it still a mystery?
Option 3. No news. People have asked they refuse to answer. I imagine its a wait until mid-August when report of mares bred are all in from the farms and see then.
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:33 pm

I can't believe they haven't retired and bred the unraced 5 yr old Zellda, especially considering that they haven't had much production from Zenyatta.
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Retrospectiv wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:33 pm I can't believe they haven't retired and bred the unraced 5 yr old Zellda, especially considering that they haven't had much production from Zenyatta.
She is retired. They just haven't said who she was bred to.
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Flanders wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:48 pm
Retrospectiv wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:33 pm I can't believe they haven't retired and bred the unraced 5 yr old Zellda, especially considering that they haven't had much production from Zenyatta.
She is retired. They just haven't said who she was bred to.
They've become rather secrative in the last few years
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:36 pm

Can’t blame them. Even if they only breed Zenyatta or Zellda once every five years, you’d still have yuppies on facebook hollering greed and abuse at every press release.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:40 pm So the vet is either incompetent or an absolute sociopath.

Or both? :shock: :evil:
Hah, very true. You can have a lot wrapped up in one person I suppose.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:19 pm

'These things come back and bite you' - Race Day proves worth with Derby hopes

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“Those sentiments now have the Lexington farm [Spendthrift] considering exercising a clause in the sale agreement to repatriate Race Day to America should White Abarrio, who was bred by Spendthrift, or Barber Road excel at Churchill Downs on the first Saturday in May.“
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Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:17 am

MSW A Different Style (The Factor) will enter stud in Argentina this year at Haras Los Liros.
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Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:30 am

Dortmund died from small bowel torsion at Korea farm.

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PersonalE wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:30 am Dortmund died from small bowel torsion at Korea farm.

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... at-age-10/
:cry: Very sad news. I saw him several times--very striking boy.
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