The rise of Sunday Silence

Izvestia · Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:41 am

tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:12 am
Izvestia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:46 am My God, he was sickle hocked...

So what?

I could really say the same about half the stuff you post... but anyway, we often post photos of TBs on here and we often make comments about how they look. It’s perfectly fine to do so. We comment on colour, pretty tails, club foots, dinosaur heads, whatever. It’s not an insult to the horse, their ability, courage, talent, specialness, and yet people take it real personal. So the question was “so what”, and the answer is “because, I have every right to post a comment about a photo of a horse”.

Ridan_Remembered · Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:51 pm

Izvestia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:41 am
tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:12 am
Izvestia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:46 am My God, he was sickle hocked...

So what?
I could really say the same about half the stuff you post... but anyway, we often post photos of TBs on here and we often make comments about how they look. It’s perfectly fine to do so. We comment on colour, pretty tails, club foots, dinosaur heads, whatever. It’s not an insult to the horse, their ability, courage, talent, specialness, and yet people take it real personal. So the question was “so what”, and the answer is “because, I have every right to post a comment about a photo of a horse”.

Investia, I mean no disrespect to you and fully agree that you (and everyone else here) has the right to post as you wish. For me, the problem is not individual posts, but the frequent negativity in almost every topic. It isn't a matter of taking such negativity personally, but a reaction to the real drag on the ability to enjoy this forum when one has to wade through all the downers.

tachyon · Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:41 am

Admire Mars(JPN), 2016C. Daiwa Major(JPN) x Via Medici(IRE) by Medicean(GB), won the G1 Asahi Hai Futurity Stakes 1600m turf at Hanshin extending his unbeaten record to 4 on Dec 16th 2018.
He is now likely to be named the JRA champion 2yo colt.
Good for Daiwa Major's sire-line, too!

Admire Mars(JPN)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001221956/
4-4-0-0

-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWY1AFyAk7M
1st 6 Admire Mars(JPN) C2 55 01:33.9
2nd 1 Kurino Gaudi(JPN) C2 55 01:34.2 2
3rd 2 Gran Alegria(JPN) F2 54 01:34.3 1/2
4th 14 Fantasist(JPN) C2 55 01:34.5 1 1/2
5th 8 Deep Diver(JPN) C2 55 01:34.7 1 1/4
6th 15 Emeral Fight(JPN) C2 55 01:35.1 2 1/2
7th 3 Aster Pegasus(USA) C2 55 01:35.4 1 1/2
8th 10 Girasol(JPN) C2 55 01:35.5 1/2
9th 9 It's Cool(JPN) C2 55 01:35.6 1/2
10th 5 Meiner Surpass(JPN) C2 55 01:35.7 3/4
11th 12 Copano Martin(JPN) C2 55 01:35.9 1 1/4
12th 4 De Gaulle(JPN) C2 55 01:36.0 NK
13th 11 Cadence Call(JPN) C2 55 01:36.0 NS
14th 7 Salt Ibuki(JPN) C2 55 01:36.4 2 1/2
15th 13 Nihonpiro Henson(JPN) C2 55 01:36.6 1 1/4

-- JRA review
http://japanracing.jp/_news2018/181216.html

Daiwa Major(JPN)

standing at Shadai Stallion Station

tachyon · Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:21 am

in Argentina,

Hat Mario(ARG), 2013H. Hat Trick(JPN) x Stormy Marama(ARG) by Bernstein(USA), scored his first G1 victory in the Gran Premio Joaquín S. de Anchorena - Internacional at San Isidro on Dec 15th 2018.

He became Hat Trick's 6th G1 winner worldwide!

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9z7jufKSyc
1st. (#8) Hat Mario(ARG)

I love the Sunday Silence x Bernstein (Storm Cat) cross!!

hat mario.PNG

Hat Trick(JPN)

standing at Haras Springfield, Brazil.

tachyon · Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:03 am

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:13 am -- in India,

Sir Cecil(IND), 2015C. Win Legend(JPN) x Elusive Trust(IND) by Elusive Pimpernel(IND), won the Bangalore Derby (Gr1) 2000m turf at Bangalore remaining unbeaten 5 for 5 on July 15th 2018.
Win Legend(JPN)[2003H. Sunday Silence(USA) x Shinko Nobby(USA) by Nashwan(USA)], listed stakes winner in Japan, is now standing at India and eying the champion sire of the country!!

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6YQx-V-ZqA
1st. Sir Cecil(IND) (Win Legend)
2nd. Star Superior(IND) (Excellent Art)
3rd. Van Dyke(IND) (Kingda Ka)

and in India,

Sir Cecil(IND), 2015C. Win Legend(JPN) x Elusive Trust(IND) by Elusive Pimpernel(IND), extended his win streak to eight, as he won the Indian 2000 Guineas (Gr1) 1600m turf at The Royal Western India Turf Club Mumbai on Dec 16th 2018.

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrkH7rEQKU
1st. (#7) Sir Cecil(IND)

Mylute · Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:19 pm

Sir Cecil is gorgeous.

Northport · Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:38 pm

If American Champion trainer Bobby Frankel gets a Champion horse named after him in England does Sir Henry Cecil gets a Champion horse named after him in India?

Kidding, I have no idea the namesake of Sir Cecil, but it's a nice name and nice horse nonetheless.

tachyon · Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:33 am

JRA has been making posters promoting big Japanese stars since Haiseiko (1970).
83 horses have been honored so far with the most recent (#83) Almond Eye(JPN).

#83 Almond Eye (F. Lord Kanaloa x Fusaichi Pandora by Sunday Silence)
#82 Oju Chosan (H. Stay Gold)
#81 Kitasan Black (H. Black Tide )
#80 Logotype (H. Lohengrin x Stereotype by Sunday Silence)
#79 Straight Girl (M. Fuji Kiseki)
#78 Maurice [H. Screen Hero (= Grass Wonder x Running Heroine by Sunday Silence)]
#77 Just a Way (H. Heart's Cry)

Japan's heroes in the past are in the link below.

http://jra.jp/gallery/ads/heroes/index.html

BaroqueAgain1 · Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:05 pm

I'd love to see a headshot of Almond Eye without all that headgear. She seems to have a very pretty head...from what I can see of it.

lurkey mclurker · Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:31 pm

I'm pretty sure there are more pics of her in the Racing in Japan thread... I'll see if I can find a link to the pics of her at the farm.

Flanders · Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:29 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:05 pm I'd love to see a headshot of Almond Eye without all that headgear. She seems to have a very pretty head...from what I can see of it.

Pic looks kind of pixelated at this size but it was the only one I could find easily.

tachyon · Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:07 am

Here's another one.

lurkey mclurker · Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:36 pm

Ah, the ol' "lemme chew on this lead while I stand here so innocently" trick...

lurkey mclurker · Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:16 pm

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... /asj.13143

Evaluation of recent changes in genetic variability in Japanese thoroughbred population based on a short tandem repeat parentage panel

The integrity of thoroughbreds is maintained under strict regulation involving DNA parentage testing, which is robust in a population with high genetic variability. The genetic variability of the thoroughbred population is possibly fluctuating because of selective breeding that has focused on adaptations for racing performance. To monitor genetic variability within the population and the effectiveness of short tandem repeat (STR) parentage testing, we investigated allele frequencies and the exclusion probability (PE) of 16–17 loci of a parentage panel in the Japanese thoroughbred population over 15 years. Expected heterozygosities (He) of 14 loci indicated a decreasing trend, and the average He of the population decreased significantly.

https://twitter.com/Perf_Genetics/statu ... 1907338241

Performance Genetics @Perf_Genetics

File this under the “Sunday Silence effect”

The fixation towards Sunday Silence is without precedent in any other country/population. Danehill in Australia would be close but not as impactful (no pun intended).

tachyon · Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:18 pm

Sunday Silence's sons continued to do super as broodmare sires, too, in late 2018.

Saturnalia(JPN), 2016C. Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Cesario(JPN) by Special Week(JPN), won the G1 Hopeful Stakes 2000m turf at Nakayama on Dec 28th 2018.

viewtopic.php?p=199254#p199254

Omega Perfume(JPN), 2015C. Swept OverboardUSA) x Omega Fragrance(JPN) by Gold Allure(JPN), won the G1 Tokyo Daishoten 2000m dirt at Ohi on Dec 29th 2018.

viewtopic.php?p=199301#p199301

Special Week(JPN) (1995 - 2018) : Sunday Silence(USA) x Campaign Girl(JPN) by Maruzensky(JPN)

Gold Allure(JPN) (1999 - 2017) : Sunday Silence(USA) x Nikiya(USA) by Nureyev(USA)

lurkey mclurker · Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:38 pm

Glory Vase has won the G2 Nikkei Shinsun and has an automatic entry into the Caulfield Cup (AUS) now.

full replay: https://twitter.com/LongBallToNoOne/sta ... 8389899264

G @LongBallToNoOne

Replay:

4c 2.GLORY VASE (Deep Impact x Mejiro Tsubone (Swept Overboard)) ridden superbly by Mirco Demuro won G2 $1.5mil 2400m Nikkei Shinshun Hai

2.26.2
12.6 - [10.7 - 10.8 - 11.8]* - 12.4 - 12.6 - 12.9 - 12.8 - 11.9 - 12.2 - 13.1 - 12.4

* ffs

Jess Samy @Frankel1313
30 Jan 2018

Sunday Silence's doppelganger Glory Vase !
Glory Vase (above) is by Deep Impact and is a grandson of Sunday Silence (below)

Uncanny markings !

Mylute · Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:48 pm

They both have that "I'm over it" look.

Gemini · Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:25 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:21 am Hat Trick(JPN)

standing at Haras Springfield, Brazil.

Hat Trick certainly has the same sort of intimidating stare as his sire and grandsire.

Mylute · Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:26 pm

Lovely picture of Halo for comparison.

tachyon · Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:20 am

Is Glory Vase a Sunday Silence's doppelganger ??

No way.

Pity, his coat color is totally different from Sunday Silence's..
This colt is a dark bay.
But Sunday Silence was a nearly-black, registered as brown.
Here below are some real picks of Glory Vase.

I would agree that he has uncanny markings, though.