Stallion News

Post Reply
User avatar
starrydreamer
Posts: 1145
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:51 am

Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 am

Summer Bird wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am Bernardini has been euthanized due to laminitis.
:cry: Sorry to hear this. I remember when I first saw a photo of him (as a yearling, maybe? It was on this board) and thought "wowza, handsome horse." I know people think he was a disappointment as a sire, but I thought he was pretty steady.
TapitsGal
Posts: 3054
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:03 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:03 am

Mylute wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 am
Summer Bird wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am Bernardini has been euthanized due to laminitis.
Preakness Stakes Winner Bernardini Dies Of Laminitis At Age 18
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... at-age-18/

I wonder how and when he got it. I know he was actively covering mares at some point this year - Kalahari Cat was bred to him.
This breaks my heart. I was never a huge Bernardini fan when he raced...him winning the Preakness barbaro broke down in soured me on him. But I fell in love with Bernardini as a sire and it breaks my heart weve lost him so soon and to the same illness we lost barbaro too
Ziggypop
Posts: 837
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:45 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:10 am

Well crap.
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4677
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:30 am

Another loss to the industry. I don’t think he was ever the superstar sire that Darley hoped he would be (and priced him at), but he definitely turned out a lot of nice horses.

Laminitis can be caused by any number of things, and can come on very quickly. We had a horse prone to it and if you gave her too many carrots (with their high sugar content) that could tip her right over the edge into foundering.

Also if he got injured on another leg it could cause him to founder on a good leg, like Barbaro or Lady Eli.

Unless Darley says something (doubt they will), it’s all speculation.
weeeeeeeee
KatieK101
Posts: 1084
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:23 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:31 am

Summer Bird wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am Bernardini has been euthanized due to laminitis.
This is the most shocking death of the year, to me. I had no idea he wasn't in amazing health, and he's still younger than many other top stallions. It looked like he was set to cover another nice book of mares, too.

He'll live on as a broodmare sire, but this is truly a loss :(
KatieK101
Posts: 1084
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:23 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:36 am

starrydreamer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 am
Summer Bird wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am Bernardini has been euthanized due to laminitis.
:cry: Sorry to hear this. I remember when I first saw a photo of him (as a yearling, maybe? It was on this board) and thought "wowza, handsome horse." I know people think he was a disappointment as a sire, but I thought he was pretty steady.
Someone posted a few years ago that they thought he would be an "alright" sire, but a great broodmare sire. They're on the right track for sure. His leading earner as a broodmare sire is Serengeti Empress, and I know there are several others.

But he's also the sire of at least 15 G1Ws. Maybe not a superstar sire, but certainly not a disappointment, IMO.
Slewfan2
Posts: 2210
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:35 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:54 am

Summer Bird wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am Bernardini has been euthanized due to laminitis.
Nooooo!!!😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔

I love him so much....he was a fantastic racehorse. fine sire and a spectacular broodmare sire, but I just loved him period. Oh no....I was so upset when Indy died, but at least he lived a long life...Bernie was so young.

I hate today
KatieK101
Posts: 1084
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:23 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:59 pm

Bernardini will live on as a star of a broodmare sire. His daughters have produced such horses as:

Catholic Boy o/o Song of Bernadette
Cezanne o/o Achieving
Clairiere o/o Cavorting
Colonel Liam o/o Amazement
Dunbar Road o/o Gift List
Key to my Heart o/o A Z Warrior
Maxfield o/o Velvety
Paris Lights o/o Paris Bikini
Point of Honor o/o Zayanna
Serengeti Empress o/o Havishamda
Spice is Nice o/o Dame Dorothy
Wicked Whisper o/o Zayanna

I know I'm missing a lot of others. I believe an article said that he was the youngest stallion to sire over 50 GSWs?
User avatar
Retrospectiv
Posts: 1131
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:38 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:44 pm

Northport wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:30 am Another loss to the industry. I don’t think he was ever the superstar sire that Darley hoped he would be (and priced him at), but he definitely turned out a lot of nice horses.

Laminitis can be caused by any number of things, and can come on very quickly. We had a horse prone to it and if you gave her too many carrots (with their high sugar content) that could tip her right over the edge into foundering.

Also if he got injured on another leg it could cause him to founder on a good leg, like Barbaro or Lady Eli.

Unless Darley says something (doubt they will), it’s all speculation.
Given how many stud farms in this day and age still feed stallions literal bucketfuls of sweet feed, I'm surprised it's not even more prevelant than it is.
Large amounts of feed full of sugar and starch for horses not in intense work is just a ticking time bomb. And as horses get older, they are much more susceptible to insulin resistance and foundering. Strict feed, hay and pasture management can help manage and avoid a lot of that though.
Add in horses from that Slew/Indy line who are known for being porky and you just increase the risks. I hope that wasn't the case here, I'd rather hear it was injury related than just bad feed and weight management.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway', but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies."
User avatar
Kurenai
Site Admin
Posts: 1527
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:41 pm

Retrospective beat me to it. I don't know if that was the case, but I can remember that I thought he was really overweight at some point (AP Indys are easy keepers anyway).

Now he can race with Barbaro and settle the Preakness debate once and for all. He was such a good looking horse!
Izvestia
Posts: 5691
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:16 am

Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:42 pm

I was always a big fan of Bernardini. He’s definitely left his mark, but it feels like he’s gone far too soon.
Ziggypop
Posts: 837
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:45 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:21 pm

Retrospectiv wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:44 pm
Northport wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:30 am Another loss to the industry. I don’t think he was ever the superstar sire that Darley hoped he would be (and priced him at), but he definitely turned out a lot of nice horses.

Laminitis can be caused by any number of things, and can come on very quickly. We had a horse prone to it and if you gave her too many carrots (with their high sugar content) that could tip her right over the edge into foundering.

Also if he got injured on another leg it could cause him to founder on a good leg, like Barbaro or Lady Eli.

Unless Darley says something (doubt they will), it’s all speculation.
Given how many stud farms in this day and age still feed stallions literal bucketfuls of sweet feed, I'm surprised it's not even more prevelant than it is.
Large amounts of feed full of sugar and starch for horses not in intense work is just a ticking time bomb. And as horses get older, they are much more susceptible to insulin resistance and foundering. Strict feed, hay and pasture management can help manage and avoid a lot of that though.
Add in horses from that Slew/Indy line who are known for being porky and you just increase the risks. I hope that wasn't the case here, I'd rather hear it was injury related than just bad feed and weight management.
I am with you. My brother did a veterinary residency at New Bolton and we have talked about how much and what they feed on these farms allowing their studs to get too corpulent.
Missbeholder
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:21 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm

The latest video ad I've seen on TV for Curlin has gotten me a little concerned, and I don't really know a lot about what I'm looking at.

It has him being led in a slow walk, and, while I'm not sure "fat" is the right word exactly, he looks so bulked up. I know that the video camera can play tricks on the eyes sometimes, but he just looks so huge to me......unnaturally so.

Does Hill n Dale have a history along these lines? I've never heard about one if so.
User avatar
Mylute
Posts: 11984
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.

Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:55 pm

IIRC Curlin has never been considered easy on the eyes re: his build.
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
Slewfan2
Posts: 2210
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:35 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:04 pm

I think Slew and Indy looked gorgeous, and if some consider them to have been fat, well...they were well loved and lived long, happy lives. I refuse to even consider that Darley didn’t do their best by Bernardini...and he certainly looked stunning. Horses are fragile; I don’t know how or why he got ill, and it doesn’t matter..,it’s just crushing to me.
User avatar
Equipoise
Posts: 111
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:30 am

Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:03 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:04 pm I think Slew and Indy looked gorgeous, and if some consider them to have been fat, well...they were well loved and lived long, happy lives. I refuse to even consider that Darley didn’t do their best by Bernardini...and he certainly looked stunning. Horses are fragile; I don’t know how or why he got ill, and it doesn’t matter..,it’s just crushing to me.
Bernardini was a beautiful horse. So sad that he died so young.

I hate to say it, but Indy’s “easy keeper” qualities go back to his broodmare sire. Look at Big Red’s later photos and it’s obvious he had insulin resistance. Slew had a sway back but wasn’t particularly corpulent, though that may be because Three Chimneys exercised him regularly.
User avatar
Squeaky
Posts: 4755
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:06 am

Equipoise wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:03 pm
Slewfan2 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:04 pm I think Slew and Indy looked gorgeous, and if some consider them to have been fat, well...they were well loved and lived long, happy lives. I refuse to even consider that Darley didn’t do their best by Bernardini...and he certainly looked stunning. Horses are fragile; I don’t know how or why he got ill, and it doesn’t matter..,it’s just crushing to me.
Bernardini was a beautiful horse. So sad that he died so young.

I hate to say it, but Indy’s “easy keeper” qualities go back to his broodmare sire. Look at Big Red’s later photos and it’s obvious he had insulin resistance. Slew had a sway back but wasn’t particularly corpulent, though that may be because Three Chimneys exercised him regularly.
Secretariat certainly was allowed to become obese later in life. He was always a horse who required a lot of exercise to not gain weight. It is too bad the farm allowed this to happen and did not manage his weight and health better.
User avatar
Mylute
Posts: 11984
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.

Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:40 pm

They've started showing ads for Maximum Security on the Saratoga Live/ABR streams and I'm not entirely sure what I expected.
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4677
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:58 am

Juddmonte's St Leger winner Logician (Frankel X Scuffle, by Daylami) has been retired to Shade Oak Stud, where he will be a National Hunt stallion.
weeeeeeeee
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4677
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:32 pm

In case anyone hadn’t gotten their cry in yet for the day… Darley posted a tribute to Bernardini

https://fb.watch/79ahXm41EW/
weeeeeeeee
Post Reply