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Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 pm

Slewfan2 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:52 am
sweettalk wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:36 am
HB1994 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:30 pm I always thought he was too ornery to die. 💔
made me smile to read one person in the article say "he was a friend", because even though he had That Attitude (which i saw in person at castleton lyons), it was clear he was still very well loved.
I wish I’d gotten to see him, and his daddy. So, MM thought he was the boss ? I love it!
did he ever! :lol: groom just chuckled and said he was a tough cookie. he was definitely proud of MM.
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sweettalk wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 pm
Slewfan2 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:52 am
sweettalk wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:36 am

made me smile to read one person in the article say "he was a friend", because even though he had That Attitude (which i saw in person at castleton lyons), it was clear he was still very well loved.
I wish I’d gotten to see him, and his daddy. So, MM thought he was the boss ? I love it!
did he ever! :lol: groom just chuckled and said he was a tough cookie. he was definitely proud of MM.
Awww.....

The entire farm seems to truly have loved and appreciated MM. Steve Byk interviewed Josh Pons of Country Life today - I’m looking forward to listening to that...
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Thu May 20, 2021 7:57 pm

First starter for Iron Fist is the first winner as FEISTY FIST (g. o/o Sheza Roman Ruler) takes Race 1 at Evangeline Downs.
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Sun May 23, 2021 8:44 pm

Two winners today for the late Effinex, who only sired one crop before he passed away.

Ocala Dream (f. o/o Eleni's Daughter) won Race 4 on turf and Joey Loose Lips (c. o/o Wahoo Cat) won Race 9 on dirt.
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Mon May 24, 2021 12:17 pm

WinStar has announced Laoban has died at age 8 "unexpectedly" with no COD mentioned yet.
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Mon May 24, 2021 12:23 pm

Mylute wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 12:17 pm WinStar has announced Laoban has died at age 8 "unexpectedly" with no COD mentioned yet.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... xpectedly/
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Mon May 24, 2021 12:46 pm

That's a shock. Laoban had shown promise as a sire, and losing him so young must be hard on his handlers.
I would be interested to know what caused this sudden tragedy.
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Mon May 24, 2021 12:50 pm

How sad :( I always think heart attack when they die so young and unexpectantly :(
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Mon May 24, 2021 1:12 pm

What a shock.
How many crops will he have produced?
Anyone know how many mares he bred this season?
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Mon May 24, 2021 1:25 pm

It is rather odd when they do not mention a cause of death, even surmise it is suspected to have been a heart attack, even though they can't confirm anything until after the necropsy. But if it happened in the paddock with no video or witnesses then maybe it is better to just wait for official report. However, if there never is reporting of the official necropsy report, like with Arrogate, then one starts to suspect there is a genetic component and it makes you go hmmm.
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CorridorZ75 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:25 pm It is rather odd when they do not mention a cause of death, even surmise it is suspected to have been a heart attack, even though they can't confirm anything until after the necropsy. But if it happened in the paddock with no video or witnesses then maybe it is better to just wait for official report. However, if there never is reporting of the official necropsy report, like with Arrogate, then one starts to suspect there is a genetic component and it makes you go hmmm.
I doubt it was a heart attack. Winstar has no problems--usually--announcing the COD but in at least one article, Elliot Walden states that they will not be commenting further on his death. I find that very, very odd for an organization that is usually quite transparent.
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Mon May 24, 2021 1:42 pm

CorridorZ75 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:25 pm It is rather odd when they do not mention a cause of death, even surmise it is suspected to have been a heart attack, even though they can't confirm anything until after the necropsy. But if it happened in the paddock with no video or witnesses then maybe it is better to just wait for official report. However, if there never is reporting of the official necropsy report, like with Arrogate, then one starts to suspect there is a genetic component and it makes you go hmmm.
It's possible they "turned their back" as you say and then he just suddenly dropped dead. Maybe he colicked? That can happen very quickly and without warning.
PersonalE wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:12 pm What a shock.
How many crops will he have produced?
Anyone know how many mares he bred this season?
Usually the official number of mares bred comes out in October, but occasionally you might see a breeding report given in an interview article beforehand.

He will have 5 crops, counting the ones conceived in 2021.
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Mon May 24, 2021 2:30 pm

Hope someone here who works on the farms can give us some intel at some point. What a terrible shame for such a promising young stallion who looked to be the picture of health.
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Mon May 24, 2021 3:10 pm

Met Laoban when he First arrived @ Sequel Stallion's ( I live 1/2 an Hour From Sequel and Rockridge Stud )Wonderful Sweet Horse and stayed that Way Even after He Bred his First Book
Its A Dam Sham He Has Gotten Some Nice Foals and They Ones of Racing Age Have Been Doing Well
Hope they Say the Cause

RIP LAOBAN

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Mon May 24, 2021 3:13 pm

Is it possible that an accident happened while breeding? It said this morning, when does WinStar open their breeding shed in the morning?
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Mon May 24, 2021 5:08 pm

If I were a breeder who'd sent a mare to Laoban and I heard this news..I'd at least hope that if they suspected something genetic caused his death they'd be transparent with breeders at the very least on a cause of death so that breeders know to have any foals checked by a vet to identify and hopefully Treat early anything genetic that could effect the horse
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Mon May 24, 2021 5:32 pm

RIP Laoban
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Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm

From what little I know, I think there's a decent chance that the farm is not yet certain of his cause of death.
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Mon May 24, 2021 7:01 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:08 pm If I were a breeder who'd sent a mare to Laoban and I heard this news..I'd at least hope that if they suspected something genetic caused his death they'd be transparent with breeders at the very least on a cause of death so that breeders know to have any foals checked by a vet to identify and hopefully Treat early anything genetic that could effect the horse
Out of curiosity, what are the genetic disorders in TB that cause sudden death in apparently young and healthy horses? (that a mare owner would need to be aware of).
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Mon May 24, 2021 9:51 pm

If it wasn't something obvious and sudden like an injury in the paddock or in his stall, I would guess something like aortic rupture. If they do find out after a necropsy, hopefully they'd announce it, but I'm not optimistic.
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