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- Mylute
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Thoroughbred stallion Friend or Foe is the sport horse stallion spotlight over at Chronicle of the Horse.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/directory/ ... nd_Or_Foe/
https://www.chronofhorse.com/directory/ ... nd_Or_Foe/
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- Flanders
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Thanks for sharing this. He is a lovely looking horse with a really nice unedited conformation shot. I don't even mind he has a bit in his mouth.Mylute wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:00 pm Thoroughbred stallion Friend or Foe is the sport horse stallion spotlight over at Chronicle of the Horse.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/directory/ ... nd_Or_Foe/
- Flanders
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Voodoo Song has been privately purchased and is going to stud in Turkey. He went through the Keeneland November sale but was a RNA.
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Interesting... But Tom's Ready is only seven. Other horses his age have been successfully moved into other careers.Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:52 pmHe had fertility issues when he was at Spendthrift. He only got 11 foals from the 48 mares he covered at Spendthrift. Maybe it got worse.bare it all wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:23 pm Just barely a stallion career and already at Old Friends?
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Siskin(USA)(First Defence) will stand at Shadai Stallion Station for a fee of ¥3,500,000 (about US$ 33,650).
https://shadai-ss.com/en/news/info/new- ... -in-japan/
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Shadai quotes:
https://shadai-ss.com/en/news/info/new- ... -in-japan/
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Shadai quotes:
By Forego Stakes winner First Defence, is a son of Unbridled's Song and out of Honest Lady, a half-sister to Gr1 sire Empire Maker.
A descendant of the influential broodmare Best in Show, who is also ancestress of Japanese super heroine Almond Eye.
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Stud fee for Nadal is ¥4,000,000 (about US$ 38,500).tachyon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:55 amI would guess that Nadal will be much more popular in Japan than US breeders can possibly imagine.Gemini wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:29 amAt least in Japan we can hope that he'll probably be bred to a sounder group of mares.Slewfan2 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:10 pm Nadal has been sold to Shadai and, in fact, is already in Japan...
https://twitter.com/longballtonoone/sta ... 73665?s=21
He is going to be a red-hot Roberto-line stallion for Japanese breeders.
Such young stallions as Maurice and Epiphaneia have revived the popularity of the Roberto as the two lead the 2yo sire ranking this year.
The Roberto must be a great source of the stamina and the versatility. And Nadal, undefeated, has the tremendous speed, too.
I just guess that he will start at around $30-40K.
But I will not be surprised if he soon becomes one of the top stallions in Japan.
What a timely purchase by Shadai!
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Young sires Duramente, Epiphaneia, Kizuna and Maurice saw significant increases, while Lord Kanaloa declined by 25%.
Veteran Sunday Silence sons Heart's Cry and Daiwa Major will stand only in private.
Just a Way, Novellist, Reach the Crown and Real Impact seem to leave from Shadai.
Full list of Shadai Stallions in order of 2021 stud fee:
Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : Stud Fee (JPY) for 2021 (for 2020)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 15,000,000 (20,000,000)
Duramente(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (7,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 10,000,000 (5,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 10,000,000 (6,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (4,000,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 4,000,000 new
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,000,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,500,000 new
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 3,000,000 (4,000,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (1,500,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 1,500,000 new
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,000,000 (1,000,000)
Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin) : 800,000 (800,000)
Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard) : 800,000 (800,000)
Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : private (6,000,000)
Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : private (10,000,000)
Veteran Sunday Silence sons Heart's Cry and Daiwa Major will stand only in private.
Just a Way, Novellist, Reach the Crown and Real Impact seem to leave from Shadai.
Full list of Shadai Stallions in order of 2021 stud fee:
Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : Stud Fee (JPY) for 2021 (for 2020)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 15,000,000 (20,000,000)
Duramente(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (7,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 10,000,000 (5,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 10,000,000 (6,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (4,000,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 4,000,000 new
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,000,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,500,000 new
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 3,000,000 (4,000,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (1,500,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 1,500,000 new
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,000,000 (1,000,000)
Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin) : 800,000 (800,000)
Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard) : 800,000 (800,000)
Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : private (6,000,000)
Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : private (10,000,000)
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- Flanders
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Old Friends said on Facebook that his owners wanted him retired to Old Friends and not given a new career and they were going to honor that.Gemini wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:36 amInteresting... But Tom's Ready is only seven. Other horses his age have been successfully moved into other careers.Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:52 pmHe had fertility issues when he was at Spendthrift. He only got 11 foals from the 48 mares he covered at Spendthrift. Maybe it got worse.bare it all wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:23 pm Just barely a stallion career and already at Old Friends?
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Now that we know Shadai was the one who bought Siskin, I really really don't understand the huge rush to retire him. It seems like Japanese owners are the most sporting in terms of racing older horses, though we know the purses in Ireland and England can't even remotely compare to those in Japan, but there's still a ton of prestigious races to be won.
I also have no real knowledge of the Japanese market in terms of stud fees for middle level stallions, but Siskin's and Nadal's seem like a heck of a lot considering their pedigrees and race records.
I also have no real knowledge of the Japanese market in terms of stud fees for middle level stallions, but Siskin's and Nadal's seem like a heck of a lot considering their pedigrees and race records.
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Yeah and it's not like Shadai is running low on stallions and stallion prospects.
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I'm surprised too? If he'd gone flying on through the season and been the top miler, I'd understand it but he did kinda go off the boil (although 3rd in a G1 is hardly badNorthport wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:42 am Now that we know Shadai was the one who bought Siskin, I really really don't understand the huge rush to retire him. It seems like Japanese owners are the most sporting in terms of racing older horses, though we know the purses in Ireland and England can't even remotely compare to those in Japan, but there's still a ton of prestigious races to be won.
I also have no real knowledge of the Japanese market in terms of stud fees for middle level stallions, but Siskin's and Nadal's seem like a heck of a lot considering their pedigrees and race records.
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Swipe had his 7th winner on Sunday at Bro Park when Out Front deadheated in a maiden race for 2yos.
- bare it all
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Honest Mischief retired to Sequel for $6500.
Lots of boys capitalizing on daddy’s good name.
Lots of boys capitalizing on daddy’s good name.
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At least Honest Mischief has a stronger damside and race record, which is more than we can say for other recent retirees.
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And Shadai had absolutely no interest in racing him on, either.TurfLover wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:11 pmI'm surprised too? If he'd gone flying on through the season and been the top miler, I'd understand it but he did kinda go off the boil (although 3rd in a G1 is hardly badNorthport wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:42 am Now that we know Shadai was the one who bought Siskin, I really really don't understand the huge rush to retire him. It seems like Japanese owners are the most sporting in terms of racing older horses, though we know the purses in Ireland and England can't even remotely compare to those in Japan, but there's still a ton of prestigious races to be won.
I also have no real knowledge of the Japanese market in terms of stud fees for middle level stallions, but Siskin's and Nadal's seem like a heck of a lot considering their pedigrees and race records.). I assume Juddmonte weren't interested in racing him on and didn't sell the rights to race to Shadai?
Their take must have been that Siskin was a regally-bred colt precocious enough to win group races at 2 and the Irish 2000 guineas at 3.
But he didn't look like a real deal who can get better with ages.
And I wonder if his 4yo campaign could have decreased his stud value.
As for the stud fees for Siskin and Nadal, I would think that Siskin is over-priced while Nadal is rightly priced.
Shadai has every reason to be bullish on Nadal, as I stated before.
Plus, Japanese horsemen may know from experience that a speed-star on the US dirt can turn out to be an excellent sire for the Japanese turf as well, while a reputable turfer in Europe can turn out to be slow on the Japanese turf after all.
Japanese racing now seeks the speed ultimately.
- Flanders
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Slumber moved to Rockridge Stud in NY.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ridge-stud
Rowayton to Diamond B Ranch in PA
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ond-b-farm
Global Campaign was retired to Winstar and will not contest the Pegasus as originally planned
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-winstar
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Rowayton to Diamond B Ranch in PA
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ond-b-farm
Global Campaign was retired to Winstar and will not contest the Pegasus as originally planned
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-winstar