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Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:45 pm
by KatieK101
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:34 pm $925,000 for Bees and Honey
She's very pretty, with an equally pretty pedigree.

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:48 pm
by Nenikikamen23
Hip #29 - $240,000 G2W Cheetara (CHI)

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:49 pm
by Northport
KatieK101 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:45 pm
KatieK101 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:44 pm
Northport wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:40 pm

Can a horse that retires to Ocala winless from three starts be considered a failure when he doesn't set the world on fire as a stallion? His initial fee was $5000. Expectations were rock bottom. Did he fail as a racehorse? Yeah, because he was purchased for a huge sum (though I think Coolmore already owned a share in him) to be a star racehorse. Did he fail as a stallion? I dont really think so. I would be surprised if Hartley/DeRenzo paid over $100,000 for him once he retired.
No, but he can certainly be considered a failure of expectations. Now to be fair, the horse did not set those expectations in the first place.
Overall he definitely failed expectations on the track. But Suki said he was a failure at stud. I just think that the expectations for him in the shed were wayyyyyyy lower than they were for him on the track.

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:00 pm
by brunanas
Northport wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:18 pm
brunanas wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:42 pm fractional interest in Flightline sells for $4,600,000.
I am literally unable to do basic math... but does that have him valued at $184,000,000?
yep

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:01 pm
by brunanas
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:20 pm
Northport wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:18 pm
brunanas wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:42 pm fractional interest in Flightline sells for $4,600,000.
I am literally unable to do basic math... but does that have him valued at $184,000,000?
Yes I think so think we got another green monkey?
how so?

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm
by Mylute
"Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:06 pm
by Nenikikamen23
Hip #47 -$725,000 - Elizabethan (Ift American Pharoah)
o/o CH. MG1W Misty For Me, f. to U S Navy Flag, Roly Poly

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:07 pm
by brunanas
Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm "Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.
:lol:

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:08 pm
by Northport
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:06 pm Hip #47 -$725,000 - Elizabethan (Ift American Pharoah)
o/o CH. MG1W Misty For Me, f. to U S Navy Flag, Roly Poly
Man, even the Coolmore castoffs are bred in the purple.

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:09 pm
by SukiSatsuki
Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm "Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.
😂 didn’t say that it would be funny though. Tapit isn’t a sire of sires

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:14 pm
by brunanas
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:30 pm
Northport wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:22 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:20 pm

Yes I think so think we got another green monkey?
well. no. not at all. The Green Monkey raced three times and never won before breaking down. His peak value was before he ever hit the track. Flightline's peak value is as soon as he is done on the track. He is a proven champion.

$16,000,000 is of course a ton of money, but a horse being valued at 9 figures? The last time that was even mooted was for Frankel, but it could never been confirmed since he has been owned by one man/farm his entire life.
But didn’t he fail at stud
you can't compare the expectations people had at a retired The Green Monkey, a maiden in 3 starts, and a retired Flightline. also, a 2yo purchase and a share in a stallion that will likely command a $150k+ fee are two very different things, lol.

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:15 pm
by brunanas
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:09 pm
Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm "Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.
😂 didn’t say that it would be funny though. Tapit isn’t a sire of sires
was Candy Ride a sire of sires before Gun Runner? :roll:

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:16 pm
by Nenikikamen23
Hip #53 - $625,000 - Feeling Mischief

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:17 pm
by Northport
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:09 pm
Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm "Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.
😂 didn’t say that it would be funny though. Tapit isn’t a sire of sires
https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... nstitution

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:17 pm
by SukiSatsuki
Sonny stokes bought American cleopatras baby

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:18 pm
by SukiSatsuki
Blackheartedgypsy goes to Mandy pope

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:22 pm
by KatieK101
KatieK101 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:45 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:34 pm $925,000 for Bees and Honey
She's very pretty, with an equally pretty pedigree.
Sold to OXO Equine. That's Larry Best, isn't it?

If so I expect we'll see her bred to Instagrand asap ;)

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:22 pm
by brunanas
Northport wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:17 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:09 pm
Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:03 pm "Flightline is another The Green Monkey" is not a take I thought I'd ever see. It's so hot it can't be measured in Scoville.
😂 didn’t say that it would be funny though. Tapit isn’t a sire of sires
https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... nstitution
i didn't even remember Constitution was a Tapit, lmao

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:24 pm
by Nenikikamen23
Hip #59 - $700,000 - Follow the Flag (Ift Quality Road)
o/o G1W Mushka, 3rd dam MG1W Lakeway

Re: 2022 Keeneland November Sale

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:25 pm
by KatieK101
HIP 33 Core Values, SW by Honor Code, sold for $425,000. Buyer is Pin Oak Stud.