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Vandalay
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 am

Just saw Spendthrift's 2020 roster & fees...any word on what happened to Can the man?...it seemed like he was having a decent year.
hadrianmarcus
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:54 am

Vandalay wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 am Just saw Spendthrift's 2020 roster & fees...any word on what happened to Can the man?...it seemed like he was having a decent year.
Medal Count dropped off the roster as well.
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:47 am

Called both of those!
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:53 pm

Vandalay wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 am Just saw Spendthrift's 2020 roster & fees...any word on what happened to Can the man?...it seemed like he was having a decent year.
He has 2 SWs from 2 crops. He'll probably end up in a regional market if they even bring him back from Australia.

As for Medal Count its weird to give up on a son of Dynaformer when his first crop is only 2. I mean you'd think they would have known he was most likely not going to sire a ton of 2yo winners.
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:18 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Spendthrift phase out their "Share the Upside" program. If they don't keep over half of their new stallions beyond 2 or 3 years, what's the point of marketing a lifetime breeding right?
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Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:55 pm

Lost Treasure to Stand at Hill 'N Dale in 2020
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... dale-farms

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Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:09 pm

Claiborne 2020 Fees

Algorithms $5,000 (unchanged)
Blame $35,000 ($30,000)
Catholic Boy TBA
Demarchelier $5,000
First Samurai $15,000 (unchanged)
Flatter $40,000 (unchanged)
Ironicus $5,000 (unchanged)
Lea TBA ($7,500)
Mastery $25,000 (unchanged)
Orb $10,000 ($12,500)
Runhappy $25,000 (unchanged)
War Front $250,000 (unchanged)

Blame is the only one who gets an increase, pending the end of the juvenile season (Lea).
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:51 am

hadrianmarcus wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:54 am
Vandalay wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 am Just saw Spendthrift's 2020 roster & fees...any word on what happened to Can the man?...it seemed like he was having a decent year.
Medal Count dropped off the roster as well.
Danza gone too. Per an email I saw, Danza and Medal Count will still be owned by Spendthrift while moved to a Regional market.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:12 am

Mylute wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:55 pm Lost Treasure to Stand at Hill 'N Dale in 2020
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... dale-farms

*insert thinking emoji here*
I know Hill N Dale has a history of buying broodmares/fillies in training from Coolmore, but if you wanted a classy cast off, Ballydoyle has actual group winners all with incredible pedigrees available at the year end horses-in-training sales, rather than a horse marketed as 'almost a group winner'. I guess being out of a granddaughter of Urban Sea really set him apart?

Also, the fact that Sikura describing him as a 'fast looking' horse is actually used as a selling point is hilarious.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:43 am

Retrospectiv wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:51 am
hadrianmarcus wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:54 am
Vandalay wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 am Just saw Spendthrift's 2020 roster & fees...any word on what happened to Can the man?...it seemed like he was having a decent year.
Medal Count dropped off the roster as well.
Danza gone too. Per an email I saw, Danza and Medal Count will still be owned by Spendthrift while moved to a Regional market.
Glad Medal Count will land somewhere and will have some limited prospects.

Whether it be 'share the upside'...or any other breeder risk minimization program, what's the point if breeders sell stallions to Turkey, Korea,
South American, or a regional market after two or three season. Once a stallion farm has bailed on a stallion, breeders take a beating at the auctions on
all offspring there after.

You want a program that will help breeders and motivate them to use a stallion, particularly a mid-range or lower stallions,
the stud farms should guarantee that the stallion will be supported for a minimum of five years. That would be sharing the up & down side!
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Retrospectiv
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:09 pm

Apparently Danza is off to Ohio somewhere.

BH a few weeks late breaking the Bodemeister to Turkey story.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm

Retrospectiv wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:09 pm Apparently Danza is off to Ohio somewhere.

BH a few weeks late breaking the Bodemeister to Turkey story.
Yeah I know but I hadn't seen any American news outlet pick it up. It was only announced by Turkish news outlets that I saw.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:15 pm

Arazi is looking good as ever at age 30. He's been a pensioner at Stockwell Stud in Australia since 2011.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:30 pm

New Year’s Day has arrived at Shadai Stallion Station this morning.

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... YD_200.pdf
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:42 pm

tachyon wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:30 pm New Year’s Day has arrived at Shadai Stallion Station this morning.

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... YD_200.pdf
Wow, he is much uglier than I realized. I really like his pedigree, though, and I hope he does well in Japan. I don't think the US market ever really gave him much of a shot.
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:07 pm

mariasmon wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:42 pm
tachyon wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:30 pm New Year’s Day has arrived at Shadai Stallion Station this morning.

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... YD_200.pdf
Wow, he is much uglier than I realized. I really like his pedigree, though, and I hope he does well in Japan. I don't think the US market ever really gave him much of a shot.
I mean, how much of a shot did he warrant? He won the BC Juvenile but never raced at 3. It's great that he got a horse like Maximum Security, but I think it was mostly the Wests who supported him. I guess Shadai wants to get in on the Street Cry legacy, and he will be a good outcross for all of those Sunday Silence mares, and with King Kamehameha and Deep Impact gone, there's about 300 top class mares that need new matches in 2020.
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Miss Woodford wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:15 pm Arazi is looking good as ever at age 30. He's been a pensioner at Stockwell Stud in Australia since 2011.
https://twitter.com/jhaynes132/status/1 ... 6746946561
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Probably the best two year old of all time, or tied with Johannesburg.
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:35 pm

Group 3 placed St Patrick's Day, a full brother to American Pharoah, will stand at @JourneymanStud in Florida in 2020.
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:21 pm

Catholic Boy retired....... no reason given :cry:

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