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Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:39 pm

Horsebagger wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:28 am Coolmore and Godolphin have bills to pay too. Lots of them.
Big bills, too. Coolmore paid 3,400,000gns for a Galileo colt at Tattersalls today.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:50 pm

TapitsGal wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:09 pm I wonder if Darley will stand hawkbill themselves
I'm really curious where he ends up.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm

It is official Shanghai Bobby to stand at Arrow Stud in Japan

https://mobile.twitter.com/LongBallToNo ... 3210583040
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RugbyGirl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm It is official Shanghai Bobby to stand at Arrow Stud in Japan

https://mobile.twitter.com/LongBallToNo ... 3210583040
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:52 pm

Doesn't sound like it, since I would expect that they would mention that in the press release. I could see him standing somewhere else as a duel purpose stallion, like Godolphin's last Sheema Classic winner, Jack Hobbs. Or maybe going to Japan.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 pm

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7yo warrior GOLD ACTOR (Screen Hero) has been retired and will go to stud. Won the world's biggest betting race, the 2015 G1 Arima Kinen beating Kitasan Black.
24: 9-3-2 for ¥74,3244,000 ($9.25mil) earnings
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:33 pm

And just like that.....no more value with Quality Road. New fee......$150,000.
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Horsebagger wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:33 pm And just like that.....no more value with Quality Road. New fee......$150,000.
As a breeder I'm curious of your opinion on a question I asked in the 2019 Stallion Fees thread.

Do you think there are enough mare owners willing to put 100k+ stud fees into their mares to support the stallions that stand for that fee in Kentucky? I think there are 11 if I counted right. Justify is the only first year stallion in that price range. I'm guessing they covered around 9 -10% of the mares bred in Kentucky in 2018, as they covered 9% of the total in 2017.
Or will there just be a lot of foal sharing or other deals made? Or will people just not use some of them as much?
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RugbyGirl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm It is official Shanghai Bobby to stand at Arrow Stud in Japan

https://mobile.twitter.com/LongBallToNo ... 3210583040
Yes.
It's JS Co.,Ltd. that introduced Shanghai Bobby to make him stand at Arrow Stud, the fourth largest stud in Japan.
SB is slated to arrive at Japan on November 23rd.
His stud fee has yet to be announced.

-- statement from JS Co.,Ltd.
http://jscompany.jp/s/2018/10/09/%e7%b1 ... %e3%82%bf/

-- report from Umaichi.com (photos, videos etc)
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/c ... b09efe86d8

Of the US imports, Sinister Minister(USA), Battle Plan(USA) and Lani(USA) were in Arrow's stallion line-up for 2018 season.
As a side note, Arrow's flagship stallion South Vigorous(USA) passed away earlier this year.

-- Arrow Stud's stallions page (conformation photos etc) <--- we may find SB's page later
http://jscompany.jp/10_arrowstud/list.html
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:36 pm

Gold Actor has always been an attractive animal and his pedigree is rather unique. I hope he is well supported at stud.
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Mylute wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:32 pm
sweettalk wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:21 pm definitely robbed. racing's biggest hero in how long? and off he goes with less than 6 months of screen time. i think AP actually takes the sting out of it - justify was a ridiculous disappointment, but at least i saw AP, too.

and i just wanted to be happy re: justify, but it went from whoa, what a horse! to arguments over race fixing/race riding, to him disappearing as quickly as it began.

i think heartbroken is actually an accurate term for me, and had AP not happened it would be even worse. i'd feel better if justify had lost the TC, frankly.
Race fixing? What'd I miss?
I believe it is in reference to the mess with Florent Geroux/Restoring Hope acting as a shield for Justify to prevent anyone from coming up and pressing him or challenging him for the lead, (even going so far as to sharply veering inside after going wide to keep people away, when a horse did actually try to come up/sneak up alongside) and to top it of Mike Smith telling Geroux right after the finish as RH cantered by 'Thank you! You're the man!' I think race fixing is a bit ott a term for that but that's why she said "/race riding" and it leaves a lot of people in doubt as to whether the race was a fair one, if Justify really did win entirely on his own merit, if he would've won under a Smarty Jones scenario and so on.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:43 am

Ami’s Flatter Retired to Ocala Stud For 2019

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... -for-2019/

~ Interesting pedigree.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:44 am

Treve wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:43 am
Mylute wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:32 pm
sweettalk wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:21 pm definitely robbed. racing's biggest hero in how long? and off he goes with less than 6 months of screen time. i think AP actually takes the sting out of it - justify was a ridiculous disappointment, but at least i saw AP, too.

and i just wanted to be happy re: justify, but it went from whoa, what a horse! to arguments over race fixing/race riding, to him disappearing as quickly as it began.

i think heartbroken is actually an accurate term for me, and had AP not happened it would be even worse. i'd feel better if justify had lost the TC, frankly.
Race fixing? What'd I miss?
I believe it is in reference to the mess with Florent Geroux/Restoring Hope acting as a shield for Justify to prevent anyone from coming up and pressing him or challenging him for the lead, (even going so far as to sharply veering inside after going wide to keep people away, when a horse did actually try to come up/sneak up alongside) and to top it of Mike Smith telling Geroux right after the finish as RH cantered by 'Thank you! You're the man!' I think race fixing is a bit ott a term for that but that's why she said "/race riding" and it leaves a lot of people in doubt as to whether the race was a fair one, if Justify really did win entirely on his own merit, if he would've won under a Smarty Jones scenario and so on.
Mmm...alright, now I like the whole thing even less.
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Mylute wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:44 am
Treve wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:43 am
Mylute wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:32 pm

Race fixing? What'd I miss?
I believe it is in reference to the mess with Florent Geroux/Restoring Hope acting as a shield for Justify to prevent anyone from coming up and pressing him or challenging him for the lead, (even going so far as to sharply veering inside after going wide to keep people away, when a horse did actually try to come up/sneak up alongside) and to top it of Mike Smith telling Geroux right after the finish as RH cantered by 'Thank you! You're the man!' I think race fixing is a bit ott a term for that but that's why she said "/race riding" and it leaves a lot of people in doubt as to whether the race was a fair one, if Justify really did win entirely on his own merit, if he would've won under a Smarty Jones scenario and so on.
Mmm...alright, now I like the whole thing even less.
Don't worry, there were plenty of people telling me not to enjoy it when it happened. Between that, the weird statements I've seen regarding AP's actual ability, the retirement fiasco on Justify, I'm torn between cheering vehemently against TC winners and just giving up on racing entirely. Feels bad man.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:12 pm

Starine wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:36 pm Gold Actor has always been an attractive animal and his pedigree is rather unique. I hope he is well supported at stud.
Same. I see that Dream Valentino is listed too, just without a picture. I hope he is supported as well; Roses in May's best son and looks like him.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 pm

They're both looking fine... photos via nabecci. 8-)

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Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:05 am

Lancaster Bomber has retired to the National Stud..he's another one I wonder why coolmore doesn't stand him themselves
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:08 am

Wow, Declaration of War(USA) will stand at JBBA Shizunai, Hokkaido, Japan! :D
He will be the third War Front son to stand in Japan! 8-)

-- statement from JBBA
https://jbba.jp/news/2018/pdf/NewStallion.pdf

-- report from Umaichi.com (photos, videos etc)
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/d ... 5e7ee8ba1d
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:51 am

tachyon wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:08 am Wow, Declaration of War(USA) will stand at JBBA Shizunai, Hokkaido, Japan! :D
He will be the third War Front son to stand in Japan! 8-)

-- statement from JBBA
https://jbba.jp/news/2018/pdf/NewStallion.pdf

-- report from Umaichi.com (photos, videos etc)
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/d ... 5e7ee8ba1d
Coolmore is off the rails y'all.

Does he not have a champion runner in France?
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Has DofW been sold to JBBA, or is this just a temporary lease?
His runners have been doing OK, from those I've seen, but IIRC his yearlings didn't draw big bids at the recent Keeneland Sale. I'd hate to see Coolmore give up on DofW just because the commercial market is slavish about buying the Into Mischiefs, Tapits and War Fronts. :oops:
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